Bill Barr and his October Surprise

[Ziggurat]

Does the drug part actually matter?

It's relevant to the question of what state of mind would be required to drop off a laptop at a repair shop and never come back to pick it up.

But meth vs. crack/cocaine probably doesn't matter. He has admitted to the latter, he may or may not have done the former.

 

[TahiniBinShawarma]

Here’s one:
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/19/hunter-biden-story-russian-disinfo-430276

Here is another:
https://www.businessinsider.com/giuliani-said-theres-a-chance-he-worked-with-russian-spy-2020-10

I am not going to cite each Point I made because as I stated the citations are all upthread.

Obviously trolling. Neither article supports your claim. Not sure what you're expecting to accomplish being this dishonest.

 

[Lurch]

I love all the "why" questions as to why a (insert "crack" or "meth") addict would.............

as if the actions of a (insert "crack" or "meth") addict is in any way rational, cognizant, or explainable.

You're clinging to the drugs aspect in the way Ghouliani and co are hoping will sell their setup. That being: Even a well heeled dopehead with access and means will, in his addled state, do something so outlandish as this hare-brained story they've cooked up.

If only they could have roped in someone more convincing and better placed than this hapless shmuck, this marginally useful idiot running a hole-in-the-wall 'puter repair joint.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

Being reported that Fox refused the laptop story because it was too fishy.

 

[Giordano]

Obviously trolling. Neither article supports your claim. Not sure what you're expecting to accomplish being this dishonest.

Are you reading these links? Well I will not be your monkey dancing to your organ playing. I will just let the other members read the actual cites and see who agrees with whose interpretation.

 

[timhau]

Hunter isn't known for making smart life decisions.

... and so we get to the fantastic get-home-free pass at the heart of so many conspiracy theories: Like the putting telltale Illuminati signs in at Denver Airport, it's not smart, not necessary and not the easiest thing to do, but they just do it.

 

[Silly Green Monkey]

I'll eventually get to more but for starters he says

"Giuliani buys into the bizarre story and shops it to the Post because he felt more legitimate newspapers would find it too smelly to touch. He stated that in his opinion there is a 50/50 chance that it is Russian disinformation but that he doesn’t care."

Complete fabrication and conflating

"Sure, the U.S. Treasury Department may have declared one of his former associates—Ukrainian parliamentarian Andrii Derkach, who worked with Giuliani on his hunt for dirt on the Bidens—to be an “active Russian agent.” But that’s some Deep State talk, he added. “The chance that Derkach is a Russian spy is no better than 50/50.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/rudy-...rked-with-a-russian-spy-to-dig-dirt-on-bidens

Good God, even just this little part is horrifying. Really, he can't guarantee more than a flip of a coin that he's NOT working with a foreign agent of a country that interfered in our last election and would have no reason to suddenly stop interfering in this one? Fifty-fifty is the best he can offer?!

 

[Ziggurat]

... and so we get to the fantastic get-home-free pass at the heart of so many conspiracy theories: Like the putting telltale Illuminati signs in at Denver Airport, it's not smart, not necessary and not the easiest thing to do, but they just do it.

There's no "they". It's one person, Hunter. And he's a moron.

 

[Babbylonian]

There's no "they". It's one person, Hunter. And he's a moron.

At least one part of this is on the verge of truth: None if this has anything to do with Joe Biden.

 

[timhau]

There's no "they". It's one person, Hunter. And he's a moron.

Yes, changing the pronoun obviously makes all the difference. Ann Dunham also credibly flew to Kenya for delivery because she wasn't "they".

 

[TahiniBinShawarma]

Are you reading these links? Well I will not be your monkey dancing to your organ playing. I will just let the other members read the actual cites and see who agrees with whose interpretation.

Facts don't need interpretation. You posted links which disprove your 50/50 claim about the emails. The other has nothing to do with anything you claimed. It's the "opinion" of 50 people that have no access to any more information than you or I.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Hunter isn't known for making smart life decisions.

So you've read his bio or is this conclusion based on a couple news headlines?

Because, you know, a whole lot of people have used drugs in their pasts without it ruining their lives.

 

[TahiniBinShawarma]

Good God, even just this little part is horrifying. Really, he can't guarantee more than a flip of a coin that he's NOT working with a foreign agent of a country that interfered in our last election and would have no reason to suddenly stop interfering in this one? Fifty-fifty is the best he can offer?!

Not without evidence. If there is evidence Andrii Derkach is a Russian asset/agent, I'd like to see it, specifically what? The only reason I have doubts is that no evidence is presented, and I don't think he'd be in Parlament in the Ukraine if he was, he'd be in jail.

 

[TahiniBinShawarma]

You're clinging to the drugs aspect in the way Ghouliani and co are hoping will sell their setup. That being: Even a well heeled dopehead with access and means will, in his addled state, do something so outlandish as this hare-brained story they've cooked up.

If only they could have roped in someone more convincing and better placed than this hapless shmuck, this marginally useful idiot running a hole-in-the-wall 'puter repair joint.

And yet the laptop was taken from the repair guy by the FBI. Now, are you saying Biden didn't take it in? The emails are fake? Fake and planted? This repair guy made his story up?

 

[TahiniBinShawarma]

Good God, even just this little part is horrifying. Really, he can't guarantee more than a flip of a coin that he's NOT working with a foreign agent of a country that interfered in our last election and would have no reason to suddenly stop interfering in this one? Fifty-fifty is the best he can offer?!

Caveat, Andrii Derkach has nothing to do with the Biden emails.

 

[Ziggurat]

So you've read his bio or is this conclusion based on a couple news headlines?

Because, you know, a whole lot of people have used drugs in their pasts without it ruining their lives.

His illegitimate child with a stripper that he tried unsuccessfully to deny was his is a bigger indication of how stupid he is than his drug use, tbh.

 

[xjx388]

Hunter isn't known for making smart life decisions.

Well, that's true. But he seems like he was a functioning addict, which makes sense being a rich kid. I know a few people with money and bad drug habits. They simply don't have the same issues that the stereotypical coke/meth head does. One prominent member of our community is like that, works his butt off all day running his various businesses; most people wouldn't suspect, on the face of it, that he parties really hearty most nights. I know that guy isn't dropping off laptops at strip-mall repair shops. Hell, I don't know anyone with money who drops off laptops at repair shops anymore.

In any case, the laptop was dropped off in April of 2019. My understanding is that he had already been through rehab at that point and had been clean. I could be wrong on that point, I don't know his life; but, if that's true then any drug use is a non-issue as far as his decision making goes. It just doesn't make sense that Hunter Biden would randomly wander into a small repair shop in Delaware, drop off a laptop and then forget about it. Especially if he had kicked the drugs at that point. Especially if it had information he really wanted or considered potentially damaging to himself or his father.

 

[Ziggurat]

Yes, changing the pronoun obviously makes all the difference. Ann Dunham also credibly flew to Kenya for delivery because she wasn't "they".

Here’s the kicker: the provenance of the laptop is actually the least interesting part of all this. The real issue is the authenticity of the emails themselves.

And Hunter isn’t claiming they aren’t real. I wonder why.

 

[Minoosh]

Caveat, Andrii Derkach has nothing to do with the Biden emails.

How do you know?

 

[xjx388]

Here’s the kicker: the provenance of the laptop is actually the least interesting part of all this. The real issue is the authenticity of the emails themselves.

And Hunter isn’t claiming they aren’t real. I wonder why.

Even if they are real, they aren't really a smoking gun as far as showing corruption. It would be surprising if his contacts didn't try to get him to make introductions and use his influence. The question is whether or not those efforts bore any fruit and I don't think there is evidence that they did.