Bill Barr and his October Surprise

Minoosh said:
You expressed surprise that I would ask how it was connected to the Biden campaign. I asked why that surprised you - at which point you stated you had not made a claim, evading the question. I'm a little envious of people practiced in the art of innuendo. I can never get the hang of it.
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Nope, didn't evade, it's your memory and comprehension problem, not mine.

"This has nothing to do with the election"

Is your original statement I responded to. Now you are switching it to "how is it connected to the Biden campaign."

Those are two different things. I evaded nothing. It has nothing to do with the Biden campaign, this all happened way before any Biden for President campaign.

If you think that supposed emails in the hand of the the former VP's son getting funny money from China and sharing it with his dad isn't going to sway some voters, keep kidding yourself on that is all I have to say.

I heard you same people blame Comey for exonerating Clinton a few days before the election for Trump's win 4 years ago. You think they aren't going to drip this Biden stuff? You think this has nothing to do with the election?

Or do you realize your snark about me "evading" was misplaced because you can't remember what you said?
 
Stacyhs said:
So, let me get this straight.

HB is living in Calif. when he supposedly drops off this old computer in Delaware on the other side of the country.

TBS explains this by saying HB goes back to Delaware for some reason. Easily enough checked by flight records/credit card records/ witness accounts etc.

But then HB, for some unexplained reason, just leaves the computer at the store without ever picking it up. It was important enough to take to the store for repair, but not important enough to pick up. For reasons. Despite having damaging emails of his father who is running for President of the US and a sex/drug video of himself.

And if it is fabricated, we're supposed to believe it's China behind it, not Russia? When China has been quite clear they prefer Biden to win and Russia has been quite clear in both word and action that they prefer Trump to win. I don't think it would take Sherlock Holmes to figure this one out.
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I find it funny when people ask why the guy we have pictures of who fell asleep with a meth pipe in his mouth never went and got his laptop.

Oh no, don't say "if" it's fabricated, you're supposed to be a good little soldier and say it definitely is fabricated........or hacked.

You clearly don't understand the China aspect of the theory.

What has Russia said about wanting Trump to win? You got a cite for that? I'd like to see it.
 
Stacyhs said:
So, let me get this straight.

HB is living in Calif. when he supposedly drops off this old computer in Delaware on the other side of the country.

TBS explains this by saying HB goes back to Delaware for some reason. Easily enough checked by flight records/credit card records/ witness accounts etc.
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Well they guy is FROM Delaware, and his dad lives in Delaware. So it's not "for some reason" it's for pretty good reasons. I could understand this line if the computer guy was in...........Waxahatchee. As it is, acting like it's so unreasonable for Hunter Biden to be in Delaware is kind of silly.
 
How long do you think it would take the FBI to find out if Hunter B was in Delaware when the computer was left at the shop? I'd say just long enough to access his credit card records for around that time. Or telephone records.

ETA: I'm not saying it's unreasonable. I'm saying he could have gone back for some reason. You're assuming I think it's unreasonable.
 
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Minoosh said:
Meet the computer repairman at the center of New York Post's Hunter Biden laptop storyMore evasion. I think he's a bit surprised that his story is being closely examined. Computer repair guy, big Trump fan, just happens to hit the motherlode which dovetails perfectly with his hero's own well-publicized smear campaign. Plus he has allegedly made *four* backups to the hard drive. I'd say that comes pretty close to tampering with evidence that is already hopelessly compromised from a chaotic chain-of-evidence scenario.

But one thing rang true: Once after a workout I hosed a MacBook when a single a drop of sweat landed on the trackpad. So, multiple dead laptops, I know how that is. Would diagnosing a shot track pad necessitate going through the hard-drive contents? I have no idea.
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There is no chain of evidence issue. The FBI came and took the original hard drive. Making mirrors of a hard drive is in no way tampering.
 
Stacyhs said:
How long do you think it would take the FBI to find out if Hunter B was in Delaware when the computer was left at the shop? I'd say just long enough to access his credit card records for around that time. Or telephone records.

ETA: I'm not saying it's unreasonable. I'm saying he could have gone back for some reason. You're assuming I think it's unreasonable.
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I don't think it would take them 30 minutes to find out if Biden was in Delaware at the given time/date.
 
Well, friends can only do that much. At least Moscow is trying its best in difficult circumstances - and if all else fails there will be a nice dacha by the Black Sea in the ancient Russian province of Crimea.
 
Stacyhs said:
And if it is fabricated, we're supposed to believe it's China behind it, not Russia? When China has been quite clear they prefer Biden to win and Russia has been quite clear in both word and action that they prefer Trump to win. I don't think it would take Sherlock Holmes to figure this one out.
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China may want Biden to win because he possibly maybe took some funny Chinese money though his son?

Still waiting on your cite for "Russia has been quite clear in both word and action that they prefer Trump to win" especially the "word" part.
 
TahiniBinShawarma said:
China may want Biden to win because he possibly maybe took some funny Chinese money though his son?

Still waiting on your cite for "Russia has been quite clear in both word and action that they prefer Trump to win" especially the "word" part.
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Uh-huh. Sure. Keep swinging at those pitches.
 
TahiniBinShawarma said:
I find it funny when people ask why the guy we have pictures of who fell asleep with a meth pipe in his mouth never went and got his laptop.
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And I think it's funny that you assume he was high on meth or anything else when he dropped off the computer.

Oh no, don't say "if" it's fabricated, you're supposed to be a good little soldier and say it definitely is fabricated........or hacked.
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Why don't we just wait and see what the FBI has to say? You might not be such a wise ass then.

You clearly don't understand the China aspect of the theory.
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Why don't you mansplain it to little ole me then?

What has Russia said about wanting Trump to win? You got a cite for that? I'd like to see it.
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I don't think Vladimir has changed his mind. He hasn't said so:

"Did you want President Trump to win the election and did you direct any of your officials to help him do that?" a reporter asked at the joint press conference Putin and Trump held after their one-on-one meeting in Helsinki, Finland.

Speaking through a translator, Putin answered, "Yes I did. Yes I did. Because he talked about bringing the US-Russia relationship back to normal."
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Stacyhs said:
And I think it's funny that you assume he was high on meth or anything else when he dropped off the computer.



Why don't we just wait and see what the FBI has to say? You might not be such a wise ass then.



Why don't you mansplain it to little ole me then?



I don't think Vladimir has changed his mind. He hasn't said so:
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1. Point to me saying he was high on meth when he brought his computer in.

2. Umm I already said this is way too early to evaluate if the emails are legit, let alone if it was Biden who dropped it off.

3. So you mean Russia hasn't said in words they want Trump 2020? You just made that up?

4. I posted the wacky China video if you are that interested. I'm sure you aren't.
 
It's no secret that Russia is still intefering...well..to anyone but TBS, apparently:

FBI Director Christopher Wray said Thursday that Russia has been "very active" in its efforts to influence US elections, with the primary goal being to "denigrate" Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden.
Testifying before the House Homeland Security Committee, Wray told lawmakers that Russia is primarily interfering through "malign foreign influence in an effort to hurt Biden's campaign" -- echoing the intelligence community's public assessment on Moscow's meddling efforts issued last month.

Wray's comments come as President Donald Trump and several other top administration officials have recently attempted to play up the theory that China is meddling to get Biden elected, while downplaying well-founded reports that Russia is trying to help Trump win again, like it did in 2016.
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Intelligence officials have said they have uncovered evidence that Russia is currently interfering in the election to hurt Biden's campaign. Separately, some evidence has already emerged about Moscow's efforts, including Facebook's announcement earlier this month that a troll group that was part of Russia's attempt to interfere in the 2016 election is trying to target Americans again.
But while the intelligence community has assessed that China and Iran prefer Trump to lose in November, officials have offered no indication, to date, that either country is acting on that preference in the same way as Russia, according to public statements issued by the intelligence community and sources familiar with the underlying evidence.
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https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/17/politics/fbi-director-wray-russia-election-interference/index.html
 
Stacyhs said:
It's no secret that Russia is still intefering...well..to anyone but TBS, apparently:
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Yes, of course they are. That 2016 effort was the best investment of roubles ever - the West has been shaken ja weakened from inside. The USA is divided and chaotic and has lost enormous amount of soft power and prestige. The Kremlin will do their very best to get their man re-elected and even with a loss there is the delicious prospect of challenges to the result and further undermining of democracy. Maybe even violent clashes on the streets. Russian dream come true.
 
TahiniBinShawarma said:
1. Point to me saying he was high on meth when he brought his computer in.

2. Umm I already said this is way too early to evaluate if the emails are legit, let alone if it was Biden who dropped it off.

3. So you mean Russia hasn't said in words they want Trump 2020? You just made that up?

4. I posted the wacky China video if you are that interested. I'm sure you aren't.
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1. You implied it. And before you deny that, explain what other reason you
would have for saying it otherwise.

2. That wasn't the point of your snarky reply to me but nice try.

3. I didn't say it was in 2020. But Putin said it quite clearly on July 16, 2018.
Just a bit over two years ago. So no, I didn't make it up.

4. It was wacky. But I prefer you mansplain it to me. Do you
understand it? Or are you just repeating the Trump talking points like 'a
good little soldier'?
 
TahiniBinShawarma said:
The people here aren't really interested in the actual claims though..
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Stands to reason, given that it's likely Russian disinformation, being propagated at a time when it's known the Russians are propagating disinformation about Biden, spread by someone dishonest with open connections to known Russian intelligence agents, who has previously disseminated Russian disinformation. Just last year the US intelligence agencies warned the White House that Giuliani was peddling Russian disinformation.

Who cares what the actual claims are? They're almost certainly ********. The provenance of the claims is much more interesting.
 
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