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Trump and Melania test positive test positive for Covid 19

And by the way Covid 19 is a new disease, there were no experts a few months ago.


Are you sure? Trump's own Counselor insisted that doctors and scientists should have a better handle on the virus since there were 18 previous ones.

"This is Covid-19, not Covid-1, folks. You would think that people charged with the World Health Organization facts and figures would be on top of that."
 
Are you sure? Trump's own Counselor insisted that doctors and scientists should have a better handle on the virus since there were 18 previous ones.

"This is Covid-19, not Covid-1, folks. You would think that people charged with the World Health Organization facts and figures would be on top of that."

Just for the fun of it - given the actual longer name, that should be 2018 previous ones.
 
Why does it have to be one extreme or the other with you guys? No one's asking you to 'hide in a basement'. But why the refusal to do simple, considerate things like wear a freaking mask and social distance? Is it really asking too much to consider someone else even if you are young and healthy and not in an at risk group? Is it?

It is called the "fallacy of excluded middle ground".

Hans
 
Why does it have to be one extreme or the other with you guys? No one's asking you to 'hide in a basement'. But why the refusal to do simple, considerate things like wear a freaking mask and social distance? Is it really asking too much to consider someone else even if you are young and healthy and not in an at risk group? Is it?

Because that's how nihilistic trolling works.
 
I respect that you have your own opinion. Just don't forget the facts.

The first reported instance of a Covid-19 case in the US was confirmed on January 21. On January 31, Trump announced a restriction on all incoming travel from China, effective on February 2.

Blaming Trump for Covid is a Democratic strategy doomed to fail.

So why does the US have 7,500,000 cases? Do you really feel that Trump has done enough?

Hans
 
Masks are appropriate precautions for many situations. An infected person wearing a mask is much less likely to spread it. An uninfected person wearing a mask is somewhat less likely to become infected.

The mask on Trump would do more good than the masks of those working near Trump, but he couldn't be bothered. Trump is currently contagious. Just by wearing a mask, he is greatly reducing the probability he spreads the disease.

His refusal to do so is a big ******* deal. He cares so little about the people working for him that he won't wear a mask to greatly decrease the odds of spreading COVID to them.

Be honest. Does that not say something pretty damned disturbing about the man?

I'm intrigued what it will do amongst his allies.

Knowing that he only cares about himself is one thing, but seeing him actively infecting you and those around you must make some of his political allies angry. I doubt that many of those suffer from lack of self-esteem, so some must be thinking that they'd like to see Trump suffer.
 
Chief of Staff Mark Meadows says President Trump wants to resume working from the Oval Office and they now have precautions in place to allow for that. Any staff coming in contact with him will wear gowns, gloves, mask, eye protection
 
Perhaps screaming into the camera "Oh Gawd! We're all gonna die!" would have been a better message to the American people? Come on, you know the drill. Inspire hope and downplay fear. I wouldn't want a leader to do any less.

You know, my country's leaders told us the truth. They told us what was happening in other countries, they told us what to expect if it came here, they told us it was likely that it would, and they told us exactly why they were taking extreme measures.

They told us to keep social distance, they told us to wash our hands and they told us to wear masks in public transportation and anywhere else where it was not possible to keep distance. And they did it themselves, to be good examples for the rest of us.

And you know what? There was no panic.

I believe this is true for most western countries.

Are Americans really so fragile that they have to have the truth hidden from them to not panic? Personally I had expected more from them, but I guess from what you are saying that I was wrong.
 
So why does the US have 7,500,000 cases? Do you really feel that Trump has done enough?

Hans

1. We have so many cases because there were many flights that came into New York from China before the travel restrictions were in place. If you recall China banned flights within their own Country yet were happy to send folks to the US.

2. President Trump has done well in an unprecedented situation. But he was called "xenophobe" by Democrats and ridiculed early on for his decision to protect the US with travel restrictions. The President is not to blame for the failures of individual state Governors. After all it was not President Trump who placed Covid patients in nursing homes in New York and other states.

Do you feel Biden would have done a better job? If so how?
 
1. We have so many cases because there were many flights that came into New York from China before the travel restrictions were in place. If you recall China banned flights within their own Country yet were happy to send folks to the US.

2. President Trump has done well in an unprecedented situation. But he was called "xenophobe" by Democrats and ridiculed early on for his decision to protect the US with travel restrictions. The President is not to blame for the failures of individual state Governors. After all it was not President Trump who placed Covid patients in nursing homes in New York and other states.

Do you feel Biden would have done a better job? If so how?

He played down the danger, delayed the response and even now spreads covid disinformation. If you believe what you just posted, you need a little more reality in your life.
 
1. We have so many cases because there were many flights that came into New York from China before the travel restrictions were in place. If you recall China banned flights within their own Country yet were happy to send folks to the US.

2. President Trump has done well in an unprecedented situation. But he was called "xenophobe" by Democrats and ridiculed early on for his decision to protect the US with travel restrictions. The President is not to blame for the failures of individual state Governors. After all it was not President Trump who placed Covid patients in nursing homes in New York and other states.

Do you feel Biden would have done a better job? If so how?

Cheap trolling is cheap. All was answered 3 times already :cool:
 
You know, my country's leaders told us the truth. They told us what was happening in other countries, they told us what to expect if it came here, they told us it was likely that it would, and they told us exactly why they were taking extreme measures.

They told us to keep social distance, they told us to wash our hands and they told us to wear masks in public transportation and anywhere else where it was not possible to keep distance. And they did it themselves, to be good examples for the rest of us.

And you know what? There was no panic.

I believe this is true for most western countries.

Are Americans really so fragile that they have to have the truth hidden from them to not panic? Personally I had expected more from them, but I guess from what you are saying that I was wrong.

When did they tell you all this info? In January? Because that's when the US was hit. Or did they inform you of the situation based on events already transpiring elsewhere? There is a difference. It's a bit more difficult to work within an unprecedented situation.

I don't believe Americans are "fragile" a quick glance thru history shows that much. However I understand there are many around the World that don't like Americans for one reason or another and that's perfectly fine. Well still be there for you if needed.

Hindsight is 20/20.
 
1. We have so many cases because there were many flights that came into New York from China before the travel restrictions were in place. If you recall China banned flights within their own Country yet were happy to send folks to the US.

How is China responsible for American border control?

All countries secured their own borders because of Covid. People leaving were not their responsibilities.

Or are you saying American planes are banned by the US government to fly to other countries, for the good of those countries?

Of course not.

So you guys dropping the ball on securing your borders are all on you.

And that includes the stupid EU travel ban, where entire countries were exempted. Like the UK. So anyone really wanting to go to the US from EU, could just go through the UK with zero problems on arrival. Great travel ban!
 
Guys it's only 3.6 roetgen an hour from the feedwater. It's like getting a chest x-ray. You didn't see any graphite on the ground because there isn't any.
 
When did they tell you all this info? In January? Because that's when the US was hit. Or did they inform you of the situation based on events already transpiring elsewhere? There is a difference. It's a bit more difficult to work within an unprecedented situation.

I don't believe Americans are "fragile" a quick glance thru history shows that much. However I understand there are many around the World that don't like Americans for one reason or another and that's perfectly fine. Well still be there for you if needed.

Hindsight is 20/20.

Through all of it.

Not once did they say it was nothing to worry about and that it would be gone by April.

Can you find any western leader that lied and downplayed the pandemic to their citizens like Trump did?

And if you don't believe the Americans are fragile, why are you saying they would have panicked if Trump had told the truth? No one in other countries did.
 
No takers on what Biden would have done differently?

Lest you think this is some kind of purely partisan issue, let me say the following (Note I only speak for myself):

Remember all those other Republicans who ran for Presidency in 2016 against Trump? Remember them? There were quite a few.

ANY one of those guys would have done an infinitely better job than the clownshoe that is in office right now.
 

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