Trump and Melania test positive test positive for Covid 19

[Aridas]

Have you read any of the post-apocalyptic novels that have been written in the last 10 or 20 years? There's a whole genre of novels dedicated to the idea that, after society burns down, people can "rebuild it" the "right way". Some people are stupid enough to think this is a good idea.

Of course, the fans of such novels always assume they'll be one of the survivors, not one of the billions of victims.

This genre is large enough that there are major sub-genres, so you can read all about your "preferred" kind of apocalypse. Zombies, plagues, electromagnetic pulses, corona mas ejections, genetically modified plastic eating microbes, asteroid impacts, alien invasions, you name it.

FFIW, I have enjoyed a number of somewhat similar stories - while at the same time being very, very against such actually happening. 99% of the world's population becomes zombies? There's at least a 99.8% chance that I'll be one of those zombies. World's effectively transformed into a game world and/or we get superpowers of some variation? Superpowers would be cool to have - but the societal breakdown and dramatic overall drop in quality of life for everyone makes it sooooo not worth it.

*Reads this twice.*
*Tries to say something... stops*
*Reads it again*
*Beat*
Anybody got the beginning of a single clue what this is trying to say?

I suggest not reading deeply into it. It looks to me like nothing more than "joke" level posturing. This guy is so over-the-top good at handling something that the thing should be afraid of them kind of thing.

It's BS and we all know that, of course, though.

What does conservative even mean here? What does Trump have in common with McCain, the Bushes, Romney, Reagan, even Nixon? Let's not overthink this. Trump hates the people his base hates, and he says so out loud. That's all it takes.

A Fox/right wing media bubble that alters what conservative stands for as needed and employs extensive spin and extensive cherry picking to suit their purposes is pretty much the "conservative" that you're looking at.

 

[Meadmaker]

*Reads this twice.*
*Tries to say something... stops*
*Reads it again*
*Beat*
Anybody got the beginning of a single clue what this is trying to say?

Making the assumption that this is a sincere question.....


He is saying that Donald Trump has demonstrated that Covid is powerless against the American people. Trump got the disease, recovered right away, and has shown that this disease is nothing to fear.


Which is wrong on so many levels, but that's what he means.

 

[metacristi]

Trump Tweets

I will be leaving the great Walter Reed Medical Center today at 6:30 P.M. Feeling really good! Don’t be afraid of Covid. Don’t let it dominate your life. We have developed, under the Trump Administration, some really great drugs & knowledge. I feel better than I did 20 years ago!

... because the American Healthcare system allows everybody who tests positive to Covid-19 have access to a huge Hospital suite the day after they test positive, their own personal team of Doctors and the advanced medical care he has gotten, then can go back home to another Hospital type environment with resident personal medical staff, and all at no personal cost.

Does he live in such a cosseted personal environment that he thinks the other 7.7 Million infected people and the 215,000 dead have access to these "really great drugs & knowledge"? What an insensitive unempathetic dick this man is.

No, I am not begrudging him this treatment. He is the President after all - the point is that he is doing a "let them eat cake thing" and we all know how well that turned out.

Norm

Sort of 'Let them eat cake' (knowing that people do not have even bread). Such words ignited revolutions before but I really doubt it will have a strong impact in the coming elections.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Trump tweeted

“You see it in enthusiasm for the President outside Walter Reed Hospital. You see it in Registrations, from Florida to Pennsylvania & West Virginia, where Republicans are outstripping Democrats by 2 to 1. If the President bounces back onto the campaign trail, he will be an....

....invincible hero, who not only survived every dirty trick the Democrats threw at him, but the Chinese virus as well. He will show America we no longer have to be afraid.” [email protected] Thank you Miranda.
Was over until the Plague came in from China. Will win anyway!

 

[Andy_Ross]

Invincible Hero!!

 

[Elagabalus]

Trump Tweets

I will be leaving the great Walter Reed Medical Center today at 6:30 P.M. Feeling really good! Don’t be afraid of Covid. Don’t let it dominate your life. We have developed, under the Trump Administration, some really great drugs & knowledge. I feel better than I did 20 years ago!

...

Top of the world, ma!

 

[marting]

I've found this curious.

1. Supposedly, everyone that is in close proximity to Trump was antigen tested every day.
2. The first person with a positive antigen test was Hope Hicks who was then confirmed with a PCR test.
3. Trump took the antigen test which was positive.
4. Trump knew this but didn't disclose it to Hannity in a phone call to his show on Fox Thursday night. At the time he said he was awaiting his test results. However, he was awaiting the PCR confirmation test. Antigen tests have a high false negative but low false positive rate.
5. Numerous people at the debate have tested positive. Trump arrived too late to be tested.

Since then there have been many disclosures of people testing positive from the Rose Garden event on Saturday and debate prep/debate staff a few days later.

In spite of numerous questions, Trump, doctors, and other WH persons have declined to state when the last time Trump had tested negative.

Seems quite possible Trump was the superspreader. At least for the people at the debate and in debate prep.

Question is where did he get it?

 

[Stacyhs]

Jesus Christ, how ******* stupid are these people?

Sit down. Make yourself comfy. Let me get you a drink. Maybe a bite of something. This may take some time.

 

[acbytesla]

Top of the world, ma!

Just in case some don't get that reference.

 

[jerrywayne]

Speaking of Trump's joyride.... there may be some unexpected family dynamics going on here.

From: Vanity Fair
Donald Trump’s erratic and reckless behavior in the last 24 hours has opened a rift in the Trump family over how to rein in the out-of-control president, according to two Republicans briefed on the family conversations. Sources said Donald Trump Jr. is deeply upset by his father’s decision to drive around Walter Reed National Military Medical Center last night...Don Jr. has told friends that he tried lobbying Ivanka Trump, Eric Trump, and Jared Kushner to convince the president that he needs to stop acting unstable. “Don Jr. has said he wants to stage an intervention, but Jared and Ivanka keep telling Trump how great he’s doing”
...
One area where the family seems united is over the president’s manic tweeting early Monday morning...the Trump children told people they want Trump to stop. “They’re all worried. They’ve tried to get him to stop tweeting,” a source close to the family told me...

Imagine that. Don Jr. the voice of reason.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Trump tweeted

“You see it in enthusiasm for the President outside Walter Reed Hospital. You see it in Registrations, from Florida to Pennsylvania & West Virginia, where Republicans are outstripping Democrats by 2 to 1. If the President bounces back onto the campaign trail, he will be an....

....invincible hero, who not only survived every dirty trick the Democrats threw at him, but the Chinese virus as well. He will show America we no longer have to be afraid.” [email protected] Thank you Miranda.
Was over until the Plague came in from China. Will win anyway!

Trump on steroid crazy, crazy even for him.

 

[angrysoba]

Trump is planning to participate in the next Presidential debate scheduled for October 15th Tim Murtaugh confirms to CNN.

He must be feeling better!

Seriously? Are they actually going to let him do the debate?

Is he going to be a glass case to prevent him spreading the virus or are they going to let him raw dog it as he vomits out his nonsense in front of Biden and an audience?

Seriously bad idea and Biden will be nice and wishing him well while Trump mocks him for wearing a mask or for being concerned about the healthcare of the poor as only losers do.

Of course, Biden should say something like, “last time we were on this debate stage you mocked me for wearing a mask, while your family sat in the audience without masks on, and you were saying your rallies had never led to people getting sick with covid, even though Herman Cain died from Covid not long after attending your rallies, and now look at you. Sick. And sick not just in the way you refer to your enemies - though you are definitely that - but sick with the very virus you downplayed and referred to as a Democratic hoax. Sick with the same virus that has killed off those with pre-existing conditions - the people you are trying to take healthcare away from - the healthcare that Obama has signed into law. A man infinitely wiser and more compassionate than you whom you spent eight years of your life in a hate-filled racist campaign against. Your presidency is what happens a person driven by the fuel of hatred is elected to the White House. Now you have left a lot of cleaning up to do. To repair the damage your shambolic, divisive and bilious regime has created. But after we win the election and after you are dragged out of the Oval Office by the very Secret Service personnel whose lives you recklessly endangered, and after the White House is thoroughly disinfected and exorcised for good measure, then Kamala and I will begin a new administration of hope.”

Something like that anyway.

 

[turingtest]

Sit down. Make yourself comfy. Let me get you a drink. Maybe a bite of something. This may take some time.

Arizona Green Tea, please, zero-calorie if you have it, but with honey is ok if you don't. I don't like weird stuff like cauliflower and avocado, but not really particular other than that.

Seriously, though...IMO, to counter Trump's "don't be afraid, don't let it dominate your life" with "210,000 dead" is going down the path they want you (the editorial "you," not the you "you") to take; it's not technically incorrect to point out that that number is only a fraction of the cases, not to mention the population, so the chances of dying from the virus are really small; and "technically correct" is, as we all know, the best kind. But if you point out that Trump is not an exemplar of the kind of treatment most people can expect for the disease, and definitely not representative of the kind of cost most folks can expect from it, there's a chance you can get through to them. Not likely, maybe, but at least a chance, since almost everyone has experience of looking at a hospital bill and screaming "what the ****!!??!?!??" And if you have no insurance? Hell, even if you do, the cost would be pretty high; if you don't...well, like I said, that's a cost that will dominate your life, even if you've crowed that you haven't let the virus dominate it.

 

[Thermal]

Imagine that. Don Jr. the voice of reason.

Coincidentally reasonable. He wants daddy. The rest of the psychos are trying to kill him

 

[Dr.Sid]

Coincidentally reasonable. He wants daddy. The rest of the psychos are trying to kill him

Only one psycho actually ..

 

[turingtest]

Seriously? Are they actually going to let him do the debate?

Is he going to be a glass case to prevent him spreading the virus or are they going to let him raw dog it as he vomits out his nonsense in front of Biden and an audience?

Seriously bad idea and Biden will be nice and wishing him well while Trump mocks him for wearing a mask or for being concerned about the healthcare of the poor as only losers do.

Of course, Biden should say something like, “last time we were on this debate stage you mocked me for wearing a mask, while your family sat in the audience without masks on, and you were saying your rallies had never led to people getting sick with covid, even though Herman Cain died from Covid not long after attending your rallies, and now look at you. Sick. And sick not just in the way you refer to your enemies - though you are definitely that - but sick with the very virus you downplayed and referred to as a Democratic hoax. Sick with the same virus that has killed off those with pre-existing conditions - the people you are trying to take healthcare away from - the healthcare that Obama has signed into law. A man infinitely wiser and more compassionate than you whom you spent eight years of your life in a hate-filled racist campaign against. Your presidency is what happens a person driven by the fuel of hatred is elected to the White House. Now you have left a lot of cleaning up to do. To repair the damage your shambolic, divisive and bilious regime has created. But after we win the election and after you are dragged out of the Oval Office by the very Secret Service personnel whose lives you recklessly endangered, and after the White House is thoroughly disinfected and exorcised for good measure, then Kamala and I will begin a new administration of hope.” Something like that anyway.

"Something like that," nothing- that is word-for-word just what Biden should say. And I would lean heavily into the healthcare implications.

Excellent summation...

 

[Craig4]

Imagine that. Don Jr. the voice of reason.

Or he wants to be the heir to Daddy's political career. He could position himself as all of the conservatism without the insanity. I expect Ivanka and Kushner may want him to lose because they aren't sure the business can take another four years of daddy as president.

 

[Armitage72]

It's being reported that Trump wanted to leave the hospital yesterday, and the car ride was a compromise to get him to stay an extra day.

He really is an overgrown toddler. "If you stay in bed and take your medicine, we'll go for a car ride. Won't that be fun?"

 

[varwoche]

CNN reports that Trump told an aide to keep their infection under wraps.

 

[Modified]

He plans to get cut and buff for the campaign trail. Can you picture him in a Speedo?

I'm sure you know this, but they aren't those kind of steroids. These will make you lose muscle over time and get bloated.