Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 25

[varwoche]

Why are you singling them out. Over 90% of Bernie supporters voted Hilary Clinton in the election, a good 20% higher than Clinton voters who supported Obama in 2008.

The narrower the margin, the more determinative causes for an outcome. For instance, Gore might have won Florida if he would have skipped lunch on Nov 2. The margin in 2016 was also paper thin.

I have higher standards for people who should know better. Conversely, I don't expect a lot from dim-witted cultists and/or fundamentalist nutjobs.

It was obvious that Trump was an existential threat to democracy. Too many people who should have known better ... did not.

I don't quarrel much with your blame assignment. I would add Clinton's considerable baggage, some of which was earned and some not.

It's possible that 2020 will also be a narrow margin.

 

[Aridas]

Last sentence from that web site:


When did we leave?

Are you dead yet? When people die, they "return to God" at last check.

Separately, after all the atrocities that the Trump Administration and the Republicans have been pushing - with the approval of a bit too much of the nation, returning to a healthier state of being wouldn't be a bad thing.

 

[TragicMonkey]

Nonsense. I actually heard people say they wouldn't vote for her because she was a woman.

I do wonder if Warren would be the candidate now if she had been Bert instead of Beth. Of course there's no way to know.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Trump Tweeted

Obamacare will be replaced with a MUCH better, and FAR cheaper, alternative if it is terminated in the Supreme Court. Would be a big WIN for the USA!

Hanoi Dick, who lied for years by saying he was a war hero in Vietnam, and was never even there (Impeach him!), should not be entitled to a vote on anything of importance!

YES, for many years, and hundreds of times a year. He is a Senatorial JOKE!
Quote Tweet

Scott Jough
@ScottJoughNJ
Replying to @GovMikeHuckabee
Didn't Blumenthal lie about serving in Vietnam?

 

[The Man]

Yeah, I too have malpractice insurance. But legislators wrote laws excluding themselves from personal liability. That includes police and in may cases, attorneys.

So it is a lie.

It only says that they purchased liability insurance, which they may well have done. It doesn't say what liabilities that insurance would cover. So technically the assertion may well be true. Certainly the implication and intended inference is that it was to cover their professional conduct, which may be false.

As already noted such professionals are generally indemnified from personal liability, but even just taking the potentially intended misrepresentation at face value I'm not sure how the heck just quoting that, let alone underwriting it, would work.


Analyst 1: "Good morning, I'm looking to get a quote on some liability insurance."

Insurance Agent: "No problem, I can certainly help you with that today. What type of liability would you like this policy to cover?"

Analyst 1: "Well, we're looking to maliciously prosecute someone and... "

*****CLICK*****

Analyst 1: "...Hello... Hello... "

Analyst 2: "Well that's Progressive and Geico down. Ya wanna try Liberty Mutual next?"

Analyst 1: "What?!? A freak'n Dweeb and an Emu?!? We ain't that desperate yet!"

Analyst 2: "OK, OK, so what about Farmers? They know a thing or two because they've seen a thing or two."

Analyst 1: "Yeah, yeah, so making it a thing or three would be right up their alley. Good call, what's the number?"

 

[shemp]

I do wonder if Warren would be the candidate now if she had been Bert instead of Beth. Of course there's no way to know.

There is if you want to rent the use of my parsnip-powered time machine. However, because its operation constitutes a violation of the laws of physics and irreparably changes the universe, I must charge you an infinite amount of money for its use, to compensate me for the possibility that I may end up never having been born or, even worse, turned into a newt. And you must return it in pristine condition, not covered with the brains and blood of Hitler like the last rental! Also, the name "Elisabert" is a silly name for a boy, and has not been used since King Elisabert VII of South North East Wessex died in 857 A.D. of choking on someone else's vomit.

 

[JoeMorgue]

No that's standard Right Wing logic.

Take a fair system where everyone has to play by the same rules, gain power in it, rewrite the rules so they don't apply to you, and then act shocked and appalled and clutch your pearls when someone suggests your are playing unfairly by going "But that's what the rules of the game say!"

"Don't hate the player, hate the game" is a dumb rule on the best of days. On days when the players are the one's writing the rules of the game it's inane.

 

[Armitage72]

Trump Tweeted

Obamacare will be replaced with a MUCH better, and FAR cheaper, alternative if it is terminated in the Supreme Court. Would be a big WIN for the USA!

A plan that we're going to start thinking about starting to create any day now. Honest.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

If the EC can't pick a winner by January, the Speaker of the House would take over until they do.
Which begs the question: can Trump mess with the House Election?

 

[pgwenthold]

If there were a better, cheaper and covers more alternative to ObamaCare, the correct approach would be to have introduced it 3 years ago in Congress, because, if it really exists, only a moron would object.

And if there were a better, cheaper and covers more alternative to ObamaCare, only a real slimeball would hide it away for years and keep it from being implemented except as a political tool.

 

[Lurch]

If Trump squeaks out a "win", I wonder if in the end it would be a good thing? After decades of comparative global peace (no follow-up WWIII), a couple or three generations of comfortable living have induced a general complacency, a lack of vigilance against threats to democracy. Especially domestic.

The shock of the realization that the Republic is in real danger might inspire a genuine fight to preserve it. "We have a Republic, if we can keep it." The test of that might just be about to be implemented. Fail, and then it could well be that democracy is too advanced a proposition for deplorable Man at this time.

 

[Safe-Keeper]

If Trump squeaks out a "win", I wonder if in the end it would be a good thing? After decades of comparative global peace (no follow-up WWIII), a couple or three generations of comfortable living have induced a general complacency, a lack of vigilance against threats to democracy. Especially domestic.

The shock of the realization that the Republic is in real danger might inspire a genuine fight to preserve it. "We have a Republic, if we can keep it." The test of that might just be about to be implemented. Fail, and then it could well be that democracy is too advanced a proposition for deplorable Man at this time.

I think so, too. It's the silver lining of four years with Trump - he's made all the trolls come out of their caves, and made everyone realise how much trouble the US is really in.

 

[Trebuchet]

Last sentence from that web site:


When did we leave?

When mixed marriages were allowed, when women got the right to vote, when civil rights laws were enacted, when people started forming their own views instead of taking them from their pastor - take your pick

Also when that Muslim Atheist Commie Socialist Kenyan America-Hating N-word stole the election.

If the EC can't pick a winner by January, the Speaker of the House would take over until they do.
Which begs the question: can Trump mess with the House Election?

People keep attributing to Trump what properly goes to the Republican Party. Yes, the Republican Party CAN mess with the House Election and has been doing so successfully for years, through gerrymandering, selective voter purging, closing of polling stations, and so on.

 

[Ryokan]

Trump complains the media didn't report his Nobel Peace Prizes:

"On Saturday, Trump grumbled that there wasn’t a word in the “fake news” about his Nobel recognition.

“Somebody had a show where they said the amount of time devoted to Donald Trump’s Nobel Peace Prize — two of ’em — [was] zero on the networks, zero,” he emphasized. ”It is so disgraceful. They’re so bad.”

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/ukne...-that-never-existed/ar-BB19tbme?ocid=msedgdhp

Should media dedicate equal time to all 317 others who are nominated for the Nobel peace prize this year?

 

[Stacyhs]

Trump complains the media didn't report his Nobel Peace Prizes:

"On Saturday, Trump grumbled that there wasn’t a word in the “fake news” about his Nobel recognition.

“Somebody had a show where they said the amount of time devoted to Donald Trump’s Nobel Peace Prize — two of ’em — [was] zero on the networks, zero,” he emphasized. ”It is so disgraceful. They’re so bad.”

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/ukne...-that-never-existed/ar-BB19tbme?ocid=msedgdhp

So many lies as usual. The man's narcissism and jealousy and envy of Obama knows no bounds:

“Can you believe it, in one week they nominated me, not for one, but for two Nobel prizes,” Trump said at a rally in Fayetteville, North Carolina, on Sept. 19. “But you know, you have a president, you love your president, and your president gets honored, because I’m not being honored, you’re being honored with the Nobel Peace Prize, for Israel, what we did with Israel.”

(He wasn’t nominated for two Nobel prizes; he was nominated by two people for the same prize. And, of course, he was not honored — at least not yet — with the prize.)

We should note that while the nomination was not covered in a national network news broadcast, it has been reported in many national print outlets, and has been widely cited on Fox News.

Both nights, Trump made a point of saying that while the network news ignored his nomination, the same was not true when Obama was nominated in 2009.

“And when Barack Obama, Barack Hussein Obama got nominated, now when Barack Hussein Obama got nominated, he didn’t know why he was nominated,” Trump said. “It was like right at the very beginning [of his presidency]. He didn’t do anything. He did nothing and he got nominated. It was the biggest story I’ve ever seen.”Trump is wrong about media coverage of Obama’s nomination.

We searched the Nexis news database and could find only two stories that mentioned Obama’s nomination.

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/09/trumps-nobel-nonsense/

 

[Andy_Ross]

Trump tweeted

Proclamation on Gold Star Mother’s and Family’s Day, 2020 | The White House
The brave men and women of our Armed Forces represent the very best of our great Nation, matched only by the families who walk beside them in their service

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/proclamation-gold-star-mothers-familys-day-2020/

 

[Stacyhs]

Should media dedicate equal time to all 317 others who are nominated for the Nobel peace prize this year?

Stalin, Hitler, and Mussolini were also nominated for Nobel Peace Prizes. Like Trump, they also didn't win. Losers.

 

[Steve]

Should media dedicate equal time to all 317 others who are nominated for the Nobel peace prize this year?

No! All media should concentrate on Trump, and Trump alone. And only say/print positive things about him. Any news that does not do this is fake news. Have you learned nothing in the past four years?

 

[Ryokan]

Stalin, Hitler, and Mussolini were also nominated for Nobel Peace Prizes. Like Trump, they also didn't win. Losers.

And Putin is nominated for this year, so Trump is in company that he likes.

 

[Bob001]

Stalin, Hitler, and Mussolini were also nominated for Nobel Peace Prizes. Like Trump, they also didn't win. Losers.

Let's note again that tens of thousands of people around the world can nominate anybody for the Nobel Peace Prize, among them legislators, senior government officials, and university professors and former professors in multiple fields. And all they have to do is write a letter. You, I and most people on this forum probably know people who could submit a nomination, and some could do it ourselves. Maybe what would get Trump's goat would be to run lists of all the nominees, in alphabetical order.
https://www.nobelprize.org/nomination/peace/