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Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 25
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chrispy
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Norman Alexander
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Ah, no. Trump, the wannabe mafiosi, always has been beholden to the people who carry his markers for him. He's funded by "offshore interests", and has been for decades. Certainly Trump Enterprises alone could not have afforded to send him to Washington four years ago. Why do you think he is fighting so hard to hide his tax picture? Because he's ashamed of his Sharpie signature on them? Or that they will show he is not even a hundred-thousand-aire? Not a bit of it. It's because his "connections" will be revealed, which will show who is really pulling his strings. And no doubt some of them would rather he didn't let that happen, or they might go all Tony Soprano.
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Stacyhs
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It's always possible. But heis the most mentally and physically fit president ever in the history of the country!
Andy_Ross
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On Air Force One heading to Wisconsin. Biden refused to go there to apologize for not showing up for the failed Democrat Convention. So funny to watch the Fake News fawning over Sleepy Joe’s ridiculous “car press conference”. Pathetic!
On Air Force One heading to Wisconsin. Biden refused to go there to apologize for not showing up for the failed Democrat Convention. So funny to watch the Fake News fawning over Sleepy Joe’s ridiculous “car press conference”. Pathetic!
Steve
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Of course he missed it. He misses much of reality.
newyorkguy
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Norman Alexander
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Saved them from what? If they are being saved from Trump instead of by Trump then that's a step forward, at least.
PS. Trump would not know a suburb if he fell over in one.
Stacyhs
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Awwww....isn't he cute? He's still whining like a toddler because the Dem convention got better ratings than his silly convention with few speakers other than family. Yeah, it's 'pathetic' when Biden shows how a responsible leader handles a town hall meeting during a pandemic.
Stacyhs
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Trump: Jacob Blake who?
Norman Alexander
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This is Miller speaking through Trump.
Trump doesn't remember school. He barely went there. And he certainly is not across any deep conspiracies they may be perpetrating. He is barely across the daily business of brushing his teeth and wrestling with the toothpaste.
alfaniner
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Man, the snippets I saw of today's speech were revealing. Looks like The PDJT is getting exhausted. I can only hope the campaign trail wears him down even more.
And if the fundies have any input on the matter, that education might be just enough to get by in that eponymous year. Already too many Yanks are falling behind most of the world. Keep 'em dumb 'n numb.
The Trail of Tears, slavery of blacks, Jim Crow, and kids in cages are great achievements, don't you know!
40-45% of the US electorate seem to think so.
I'm all for having national "creation myths" so long as they don't completely gloss over the uncomfortable stuff but this sounds like an attempt to whitewash history. Maybe the Confederates won after all, it just took 150 years more than expected.
Trump is SELF funded?!
Where did the 800 million the campaign blew through come from, which then inspired Trump's tepid claim to maybe throw in 100 mil of his own because of the cash crunch?
Self funded. You're funny.
Aridas
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Sure. I was poking at some of the main factors for what happened to the Republican Party and why it's not currently a conservative party that would be a positive force for the nation.
He claimed to be such for the 2016 primaries. Not so much for after that. To be clear, though, I wasn't referring to Trump specifically in that. While Trump has been an important influence on the Republican Party for the past four years, I was referring to a number of much more long-lasting influences that are major reasons for why Trump even could rise to power as he has.
Actually... as long as what Fox News pushes is being heavily influenced by the propaganda that those rich Libertarians and corporatists have created, that's pretty close to controlling his actions. Trump's quite amply demonstrated that Fox can fairly easily get him to change course on numerous occasions. That's even without the money part of things.
We can certainly hope that things get better, though simple hope won't be enough to undo the long-term damage or do much to change the underlying drivers.
First, thank you for showing what you were thinking of. It's not especially relevant to what had been raised, but its an interesting topic in and of itself. After reviewing the link, I think that that sentence is a useful one, but to be taken with a grain of salt. Right after it, for example, it added a couple factors to the mix, church attendance and health status, that reduced that margin to 7%. Go a bit later on, and "It may be that one of the key factors that explain the Republican happiness edge is no more complicated than this: Republicans have fewer financial woes than Democrats." is another sentence of note. Follow that with - "One obvious limitation of the Pew surveys discussed in this report is that they did not explore respondents’ psychological characteristics,which surely have something to say about whether a given individual is happy or not." There certainly does seem to be a gap, yes, though.
Studies have progressed since then as well, though. On that general topic, it's likely worth also considering some more recent studies of relevance like this one - Conservatives report, but liberals display, greater happiness. For a bit of a summation of some of it, here's another link. To poke at some of the gist of parts not directly covered by the headline,
Again, not especially relevant to how easily emotionally triggered and influenced one is by fear and anxiety, but an interesting topic itself.
Indeed. However, there's been quite the political realignment since then, given the Civil Rights movement and the Southern Strategy in particular, before getting to all the rest. Using the Civil War and the origins of the KKK as condemnations of the current Democratic Party is... to be kind, not even remotely a sign of being either informed or intelligent. Which is a bit maddening when a person is otherwise an intelligent person.
Sadly, no.
While that may be technically true, albeit naught but worthy of an eyeroll when, for example, a family crosses the border and immediately turns themselves in to seek asylum under the relevant treaty (especially when they had been unlawfully prevented from seeking asylum otherwise - which the Trump Administration has worked hard to do), he wasn't particularly talking about that. The general thrust was more towards violent crimes and, for example, how refugees weren't really integrating with the larger American society (which is true for some of them, but... personally, I find it hard to blame a number of those for whom that's the case for a number of reasons).
What I was more directly referring to, though, was that after I cited a fact that he didn't believe, we made an agreement to verify whether it was true or not, because facts do matter. He had the opportunity to check first and came back with quite the tale. By his own telling (only barely altered for objectivity), he found lots of fact-checkers that verified what I said to be true, but those were just fact-checkers and could be ignored. So, he scrounged around in the statistics, located one that was completely irrelevant to the agreement (and not at all as indicative as he wanted it to be) and then declared that that statistic proved that he was right. He thoroughly violated both the letter and spirit of our agreement over something that *should* have been a side-note, at best. At that point, he quite obviously had ingrained emotional triggers on the subject, to wrap it around a bit. Triggers that were almost certainly put there by Fox and right-wing media.
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