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Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 25

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JoeMorgue said:
It's how he has some much support from people who will swear up and down they don't like him. Because nobody likes Trump. Some people just see him as a flaming brick to throw the window of liberalism.
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That says more about them than Trump. And it isn't good.
 
Oh... Jesus does Trump not realize he actually won in 2016?

Holy crap now it all makes sense. He think Clinton won. That's why he's just sitting there in Trump Tower and Maro Lago instead the White House, tweeting all day, wondering why the country is going to hell and nobody is doing anything about it.
 
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JoeMorgue said:
Oh... Jesus does Trump not realize he actually won in 2016?

Holy crap now it all makes sense. He think Clinton won. That's why he's just sitting there in Trump Tower and Maro Lago instead the White House, tweeting all day, wondering why the country is going to hell and nobody is doing anything about it.
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If anything Secretary Clinton did was against the law, by my count, the statute of limitations has passed. I don't think that can be said for the crimes Trump is suspected of.
 
Craig4 said:
I think the WaPo is splitting hairs on this one. Trump did say he wanted to make the payroll tax holiday permanent.
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He also specifically referred to having a plan, after which his aides immediately clarified that he didn't actually have a plan and was just speaking hypothetically.
 
Trump commenting on climate change at his 'Wildfires' briefing
Trump "It'll start getting cooler, you just watch."
Natural Resources Secretary. "I wish science agreed with you"
Trump "I don't think science knows actually."

He says "exploding trees" are responsible for unprecedented wildfires. "There's no more water pouring through"
 
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Speaking of the Four Pinocchio King, Trump told four lies in one sentence in one tweet:
"Was Andy McCabe ever forced to pay back the $700,000 illegally given to him and his wife, for his wife's political campaign, by Crooked Hillary Clinton while Hillary was under FBI investigation, and McCabe was the head of the FBI???"


Almost everything he said was inaccurate. Let's break down the sentence point by point.
"...the $700,000 illegally given to him and his wife, for his wife's political campaign..."

Facts First: There are two false claims in these 14 words alone. McCabe himself did not receive any donations, and the donations were not illegal.

Trump was referring to $675,288 that was donated to the unsuccessful 2015 Virginia state Senate campaign of McCabe's wife, Dr. Jill McCabe: $207,788 from the state Democratic Party and $467,500 from Common Good VA, the political action committee (PAC) of then-Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe.

There is simply no evidence that any of the donations, which were publicly reported in Jill McCabe's financial filings, broke the law. Trump has a long history of wrongly accusing his opponents of illegal behavior.

"...by Crooked Hillary Clinton..."

Facts First: Clinton did not make any of the donations.

McAuliffe is a longtime friend and political associate of Hillary and Bill Clinton, but there is just no indication the Clintons were responsible in any way for his PAC's giving.

"There is no evidence that Hillary Clinton provided political or financial support to Dr. McCabe's 2015 senate campaign," the Justice Department's inspector general wrote in a 2018 report.

The donation from McAuliffe's PAC was not at all exceptional. Common Good VA gave larger donations to two other Democratic candidates as the party tried to win control of the state Senate in 2015: $803,500 to Jeremy McPike and $781,500 to Daniel Gecker.

Jill McCabe was in a competitive race. She lost by 4.8 percentage points to the Republican incumbent.

She noted in a 2018 op-ed article in the Washington Post that the donations from the state party and the governor's PAC were "on par with what other candidates in competitive races on both sides of the aisle received" and that "all those contributions were publicly reported."

"...and McCabe was the head of the FBI???"

Facts First: Andrew McCabe was not "head of the FBI" in 2015. Rather, he ran the bureau as acting director for nearly three months in 2017 -- long after the donations and his wife's defeat -- after Trump fired director James Comey.

McCabe spent most of 2015 as FBI assistant director in charge of the Washington field office. He became associate deputy director in September 2015.

McCabe was promoted to deputy director in February 2016. It was only then, after the donations and his wife's defeat, that he assumed a supervisory role on Clinton investigations.

"By the time McCabe became Deputy Director and assumed supervisory responsibilities for any Clinton-related matters, Dr. McCabe had already lost her election, and no developments in the Clinton-related matters could have any plausible impact on Dr. McCabe's financial interests," the inspector general wrote in 2018.

McCabe voluntarily recused himself from the FBI investigations into Clinton's email practices and the Clinton Foundation in November 2016, after an October 2016 Wall Street Journal article about the donations. (The inspector general reported in 2018 that there were "a few instances" where he did not fully comply with this recusal.)

In a separate 2018 report, the inspector general found McCabe "lacked candor" in four instances when discussing, with Comey and with investigators, his role in providing information to the Wall Street Journal for a separate article that discussed the Clinton Foundation investigation.
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Captain_Swoop said:
Trump commenting on climate change at his 'Wildfires' briefing
Trump "It'll start getting cooler, you just watch."
Natural Resources Secretary. "I wish science agreed with you"
Trump "I don't think science knows actually."

He says "exploding trees" are responsible for unprecedented wildfires. "There's no more water pouring through"
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I'm surprised he didn't claim to know more than science.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump commenting on climate change at his 'Wildfires' briefing
Trump "It'll start getting cooler, you just watch."
Natural Resources Secretary. "I wish science agreed with you"
Trump "I don't think science knows actually."

He says "exploding trees" are responsible for unprecedented wildfires. "There's no more water pouring through"
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Yeah, so um...what the **** just happened?
 
Trump Tweets

She should be ashamed of herself!
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Charlie Kirk
@charliekirk11
The widow of Steve Jobs—Laurene Powell Jobs donated at least $500,000 to Joe Biden's campaign this year.
Do you know who owns a majority stake in The Atlantic?

Laurene Powell Jobs.
 
Fast Eddie B said:
So, we’re at the point where a sitting President suggests the imprisonment of his predecessor. It’s all quite disheartening. And scary.
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I'm not sure that that's quite where things have been pushed to, though. Rather, I think that the present progress towards fascism is better represented with this observation.

Convicted criminal Roger Stone, advisor to President Trump, who committed crimes in service to President Trump and who Trump has kept out of jail in response, has now publicly advocated that Trump engage in both openly and blatantly rigging elections and to try to pull off a coup if he loses.

Perhaps it should also be noted that Trump has hinted at being rather amenable to such in the past, IIRC.

Elsewhere, there's a simple MeidasTouch ad out now. Just has repeating audio of Trump pointing out that the economy does better under Democrats and evidence of such being the case.
 
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Horatius said:
Wait, what? How is that a complaint? Isn't finding our who they support the whole point of a survey?!?
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It took me a minute, then I literally facepalmed. Holy ****. Just... I...

:covereyes

It's like a bad joke about polling in Soviet Russia or some banana republic. 70% of the public disagrees with State policy? You amateurs, why did you ask more opponents than supporters? We're supposed to get a balanced image of the population's views!"
 
Remember the ICE detainees?

Whistleblower Complaint Alleges Mass Hysterectomies at ICE Detention Center


Several legal advocacy groups on Monday filed a whistleblower complaint on behalf of a nurse at an Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) detention center documenting “jarring medical neglect” within the facility, including a refusal to test detainees for the novel coronavirus and an exorbitant rate of hysterectomies being performed on immigrant women.
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According to the whistleblower, medical staff have been performing hysterectomies with no or questionable consent. For example, a number of patients had the procedure at the same time as being treated for other conditions that they may have not actually had.
 
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