Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 25

[Monza]

Probably the same outfit that sells the cheap Christmas suits.

I don’t have any fondness for building walls, but that is a fun suit. I wouldn’t pair it with a brick tie, though.

I bought one of the Opposuits with the Christmas theme a couple years ago. Yes, they are cheaply made, but lots of fun. I wore it to my wife's company Christmas party at a senior living community. The residents loved it! Much better than dressing up in a regular suit with a Santa hat.

They have other themes available too. If they made one with masks printed all over it, I'd probably get it.

Only an idiot would dress like that. I rest my case.

Oh.

 

[Steve]

I bought one of the Opposuits with the Christmas theme a couple years ago. Yes, they are cheaply made, but lots of fun. I wore it to my wife's company Christmas party at a senior living community. The residents loved it! Much better than dressing up in a regular suit with a Santa hat.

They have other themes available too. If they made one with masks printed all over it, I'd probably get it.




Oh.

I was not being critical. They can be fun in the right circumstances. and they have to be cheaply made to sell. I have thought about getting one myself but they don't make them for short fat dudes.

 

[pgwenthold]

So apparently for Trump's rally last night, the played "Fortunate Son" by CCR.

Which is, literally, a song in opposition to people like Trump and their privilege due to the child of someone rich or famous (and using that to get out of Vietnam).

It's all about projection.

 

[Firestone]

Slight lack of self-awareness here:

“I don’t want to jump up and down and start screaming ‘Death! Death!’ because that’s not what it’s all about. We have to lead a country,” Trump told reporters. “There has to be a calmness.”

https://twitter.com/TracyJan/status/1304378236890161152

(This tweet obviously starts a thread with examples where there was something else than "calmness" in Trump's utterances.)

Would “There has to be a calmness - Biden-Harris 2020” work?

 

[Steve]

So apparently for Trump's rally last night, the played "Fortunate Son" by CCR.

Which is, literally, a song in opposition to people like Trump and their privilege due to the child of someone rich or famous (and using that to get out of Vietnam).

It's all about projection.

I don't know. Likely Trump is proud that he was born rich and was/is able to use that to avoid unpleasant things happening to him. He may view that song as displaying positive aspects of his life. Fits in with his **** the poor people outlook.

 

[The Don]

So apparently for Trump's rally last night, the played "Fortunate Son" by CCR.

Which is, literally, a song in opposition to people like Trump and their privilege due to the child of someone rich or famous (and using that to get out of Vietnam).

It's all about projection.

I'm surprised that John Fogerty allowed it to be used - or hasn't objected after the fact.

 

[Darat]

Who's more deluded, Trump, comparing himself to Churchill, or his supporters for listening to it?

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/dona...arison-coronavirus_n_5f5b1835c5b6b48507fea447

Well Churchill was an American so that's one thing they have in common, and both suffer/ed from debilitating mental illness as well.

 

[alfaniner]

Kathy Gray (NYT correspondent) tweeted two pictures of these idiots, and ... was kicked out of the rally.


Let's never forget that Libruls are snowflakes, though.

I have wondered about this. Doesn't it go directly against the Constitution that government can't stifle free speech? It shouldn't matter whether or not she was a reporter. It wasn't a security issue, either. Same with Plaid Shirt Perplexed Reaction guy behind Trump at a rally a couple of years ago. One of his aides moved in, told him to leave, and took his spot. Wouldn't that be fodder for a lawsuit?

 

[pgwenthold]

I'm surprised that John Fogerty allowed it to be used - or hasn't objected after the fact.

I'm sure they never asked him.

 

[pgwenthold]

I have wondered about this. Doesn't it go directly against the Constitution that government can't stifle free speech? It shouldn't matter whether or not she was a reporter. It wasn't a security issue, either. Same with Plaid Shirt Perplexed Reaction guy behind Trump at a rally a couple of years ago. One of his aides moved in, told him to leave, and took his spot. Wouldn't that be fodder for a lawsuit?

If this is a campaign event, it's not "government" and they can do what they want, except for those protected groups in the legal code.

 

[The Don]

I'm sure they never asked him.

For sure, but other artists including Elton John, Bruce Springsteen, The Beatles and Adele have come out publicly to prevent President Trump from using their music.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musicians_who_oppose_Donald_Trump's_use_of_their_music

IMO having your music used at a rally implies support for the cause.

 

[Steve]

I'm surprised that John Fogerty allowed it to be used - or hasn't objected after the fact.

I'm sure they never asked him.

Falls in to the general category of ethics. Trump and his people got none. They will take advantage of anybody and anything steal anything from anybody.

 

[Ladewig]

I don't know. Likely Trump is proud that he was born rich and was/is able to use that to avoid unpleasant things happening to him. He may view that song as displaying positive aspects of his life. Fits in with his **** the poor people outlook.

I figure President Trump is far too culturally illiterate to be choosing songs for events. That and his considering himself far too important to do that.

So I suspect there were four possible reasons for the aides to choose this song.
They were trying to troll the libruls (haw, haw)
They were mocking Trump.
They thought it would be cool to play a song that included the line “when they play ‘Hail to the Chief’”
They really were that completely clueless.

 

[pgwenthold]

I figure President Trump is far too culturally illiterate to be choosing songs for events. That and his considering himself far too important to do that.

So I suspect there were four possible reasons for the aides to choose this song.
They were trying to troll the libruls (haw, haw)
They were mocking Trump.
They thought it would be cool to play a song that included the line “when they play ‘Hail to the Chief’”
They really were that completely clueless.

I mean, Reagan played Born in the USA by Springsteen.

It's possible to be "that completely clueless."

 

[shuttlt]

I figure President Trump is far too culturally illiterate to be choosing songs for events. That and his considering himself far too important to do that.

So I suspect there were four possible reasons for the aides to choose this song.
They were trying to troll the libruls (haw, haw)
They were mocking Trump.
They thought it would be cool to play a song that included the line “when they play ‘Hail to the Chief’”
They really were that completely clueless.

It could also be that they see themselves as anti-establishment, anti-elite, hence the song is intended as a fairly literal evocation of the spirit of the audience. Plus with Trump pulling more troops home, maybe there is a connection there also. I guess one could argue that they may be trying to link trump to the ordinary soldier to push back against the recent attacks on him.

 

[Segnosaur]

I mean, Reagan played Born in the USA by Springsteen.

Yeah but does anyone know the words to that song, apart from its catch phrases/title "Born in the USA, born and bread in the USA".

 

[phiwum]

Only an idiot would dress like that. I rest my case.

I want!

Now I'm puzzled. Did Stacy implicitly call Shemp an idiot, thereby violating the rules?

I ask, because I was tempted to quote both posts and reply "Idiot!" and realized that I'd get dinged for drawing the logical conclusion. So if Stacy isn't guilty of a personal attack on Shemp, the two of them have laid a devious trap for the unwary.

 

[Paul2]

There's roughly 60 days to the election. What *else* can Trump come up with that tops this list of disasters.




No, wait. Don't answer that question.

We have not begun to see the what they've got planned. Strap yourself in, it's gonna be bumpy.

 

[phiwum]

I have wondered about this. Doesn't it go directly against the Constitution that government can't stifle free speech? It shouldn't matter whether or not she was a reporter. It wasn't a security issue, either. Same with Plaid Shirt Perplexed Reaction guy behind Trump at a rally a couple of years ago. One of his aides moved in, told him to leave, and took his spot. Wouldn't that be fodder for a lawsuit?

A campaign event is not an official government function, so I don't see why a sitting president couldn't eject folks from his own event.

Of course, Trump has worked hard to make the difference between governmental and campaign functions hard to spot, but in this case it's fairly clear. This was a campaign rally (but I bet some government bucks were illegitimately spent on it, just because).

 

[Safe-Keeper]

I don't know when the polls at FiveThirtyEight are conducted, but the poll was last updated today. Approval ratings are holding steady at 41-43%.

Remember: MAGA hat = swastika at this point.