White Supremacists Are Top Terror Threat

[Ranb]

White Supremacists Are Top Terror Threat In DHS Draft Assessments

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/whit...Abwyp_GMPFCbij5Fh4RSbH5BcxyMo74e957e7WAO9PcXI

The Department of Homeland Security has prepared three draft reports warning that white supremacists are currently the most significant terror threat in the U.S., Politico reported Friday.

All three drafts reviewed by Politico warn that white supremacists represent an even greater threat than violence from foreign terrorist groups.

None of the drafts reviewed by Politico mentioned any threat from antifa, the anti-fascist movement that President Donald Trump has repeatedly characterized as a pressing danger.

But Trump will continue to pander to the white supremacist voter base that helped put him in the White House.

The drafts note that 2019 was the deadliest year for domestic violent extremists since the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995.

John Cohen, the department’s counterterrorism coordinator from 2011 to 2014, told Politico that the DHS conclusion isn’t surprising.

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[cullennz]

As much as I think Trump is an idiot, it is pushing to say his voter base is white supremacists.

This is not to deny most white supremacists probably vote for the orange one.

But if it makes you feel better thinking otherwise, all good though.

Edit: should add what you are saying is all staunch Republican voters are white supremacists, which is (without insult) a bit dim.

 

[Safe-Keeper]

John Cohen, the department’s counterterrorism coordinator from 2011 to 2014, told Politico that the DHS conclusion isn’t surprising.

I concur.

 

[Roger Ramjets]

As much as I think Trump is an idiot, it is pushing to say his voter base is white supremacists.

Actually, it isn't.

Who Are Trump’s Supporters?

William Galston of the Brookings Institution analyzed the data and wrote that “Trump is the staunchest champion of the white working class that American politics has seen in decades.” Combine their class with their self-declared conservatism and you have the people Lipset described.

According to Lipset, “authoritarian predispositions and ethnic prejudice flow more naturally from the situation of the lower classes than from that of middle and upper classes.” These were the people who formed the base of the Nazi labor unions (Lipset was writing in 1959), the White Citizen’s Councils in the segregated American south, and race rioters in England. Lipset continued, “working-class groups have proved to be the most nationalistic and jingoistic sector of the population. In a number of nations, they have clearly been in the forefront of the struggle against equal rights for minority groups, and have sought to limit immigration or to impose racial standards in countries with open immigration.” This, of course, describes a Donald Trump rally almost perfectly.

 

[cullennz]

All good. If you can just post a peer reviewed link showing the 63 million people who voted for Trump including all the black voters are white supremacists I'll take your point on board.

 

[Minoosh]

But Trump will continue to pander to the white supremacist voter base that helped put him in the White House.

All good. If you can just post a peer reviewed link showing the 63 million people who voted for Trump including all the black voters are white supremacists I'll take your point on board.

An alternative reading: There is a base of white supremacists who overwhelmingly support Trump.

This base helped put Trump in the White House.

Along with other members of Trump's base, who are not white supremacists.

 

[Jim_MDP]

All good. If you can just post a peer reviewed link showing the 63 million people who voted for Trump including all the black voters are white supremacists I'll take your point on board.

Except it's you who conflated "his WS voter base" with "Trump's total voter base". The former is not the totality of the latter, though the latter includes the vast majority of the former.
I think I see the loose sentence that led you there... though you had to want it.

 

[Boudicca90]

All good. If you can just post a peer reviewed link showing the 63 million people who voted for Trump including all the black voters are white supremacists I'll take your point on board.

Not all those 63 million, but a substantial portion of them.

And all the rest might not be racist themselves, but they don't have a problem with Trump's racism, which makes them almost as bad.

 

[Ranb]

....it is pushing to say his voter base is white supremacists.

Edit: should add what you are saying is all staunch Republican voters are white supremacists, which is (without insult) a bit dim.

When I said "the white supremacist voter base", it meant a portion of the people who voted for him are white supremacist. There is more than one voter base.

ETA; What Minoosh said. I fairly certain that with the choice Biden made for a running mate, Trump is going to have a lock on the racists whites that make it to the polls.

He will also have the idiot gun nut vote. The single-issue rational gun nuts will be torn between the proven gun grabber (Trump) running on the pro-gun platform and the failed gun grabber (Biden) running on the gun grabbing platform.

 

[casebro]

Back to the OP. I'd say Antifa and BLM are the "Top Terror Threats". Unless they mean they are not threats if they are actually doing terror?

 

[The Great Zaganza]

Not all Trump voters are white supremacists, but all white supremacists are Trump voters.
That should give the rest of the Trump voters pause for thought.

 

[smartcooky]

Not all those 63 million, but a substantial portion of them.

And all the rest might not be racist themselves, but they don't have a problem with Trump's racism, which makes them almost as bad.

This.

If you are a white supremacist Trump supporter, you are a racist, and part of the problem

If you are a white nationalist Trump supporter, you are a racist, and are part of the problem

If you are neither of the above, but you don't care that people in your country, of a race on other than your own, are racially discriminated against, then you are still a racist, and part of the problem

If you don't think of yourself as a racist but you vote for Trump because the alternative is "damned Librulz" then you might not be a racist, but you are still part of the problem

 

[cullennz]

This.



If you are a white supremacist Trump supporter, you are a racist, and part of the problem



If you are a white nationalist Trump supporter, you are a racist, and are part of the problem



If you are neither of the above, but you don't care that people in your country, of a race on other than your own, are racially discriminated against, then you are still a racist, and part of the problem



If you don't think of yourself as a racist but you vote for Trump because the alternative is "damned Librulz" then you might not be a racist, but you are still part of the problem

This isn't true though. Is it?

They would only be part of the problem for US voters who don't want the Republicans in power.

 

[angrysoba]

This isn't true though. Is it?

They would only be part of the problem for US voters who don't want the Republicans in power.

I think smartcooky already covered that. If you are not bothered about racists being in power then you are either extremely ignorant or racist.

 

[bluesjnr]

Rolls eyes, sighs and thinks, "here we go again".

If Trump gets in again, will that mean that the Dems didn't do enough to stop it happening and are therefore part of the problem, ergo racists?

 

[cullennz]

I think smartcooky already covered that. If you are not bothered about racists being in power then you are either extremely ignorant or racist.

My point was just because Trump is a racist, misogynistic prick. This doesn't mean everyone who happens to vote Republican in the US is.

But then this doesn't seem to fit what you want to think.

 

[smartcooky]

My point was just because Trump is a racist, misogynistic prick. This doesn't mean everyone who happens to vote Republican in the US is.

But then this doesn't seem to fit what you want to think.

Number four.

 

[cullennz]

Number four.

A) I am not American

B) If I was I wouldn't vote for either as they have both shown racist sexist histories.

C) I don't care who the US prez is (see A))

D) You seem a tad into identity politics

 

[angrysoba]

Rolls eyes, sighs and thinks, "here we go again".

If Trump gets in again, will that mean that the Dems didn't do enough to stop it happening and are therefore part of the problem, ergo racists?

Nope. That is completely illogical.

 

[cullennz]

Nope. That is completely illogical.

No it isn't.

If not enough dem voters rock up to turf him, this shows a lack of caring a racist might get back in.

This is a sure sign of subconscious racism and probably misogynistic tendencies on the part of dem supporters who dont turn out.