Cont: The all-new "US Politics and coronavirus" thread pt. 2

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Meadmaker said:
I was thinking about Dr. Atlas, Trump's new adviser. A few pages ago, I was talking about having a panel of doctors available to research, write, and update reports that would be used by the President and policy makers. I wouldn't mind if a guy like Atlas was on that panel, writing the "dissenting" sections. I think it's important that people see the diversity of opinions, and he should be able to present his own views, in more than just sound bites. Give us the data. Put it in charts or graphs. Show us the support for your thinking. I'm all for it.

Instead, he leads with the conclusions (such as "schools should open") and so Trump likes him. Data, shmata. Who cares about data? Trump knows, "He agrees with me, so he must be right."

If Trump doesn't get kicked out of office by the voters, it really might be time to dig that Irish passport out of mothballs. If the American people can't see through this schmuck after four years, I don't think there is hope for America.
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I don't think there's hope for a certain population of America. Namely the type of idiots who voted for Marjorie Taylor Greene in Georgia.
 
At yesterday's COVID briefing propaganda conference, Trump blathered about upticks in European virus numbers (without context of course) which made me wonder: Does he honestly believe his response to the pandemic is exemplary and laudable, or do his handlers just feed him the nonsense he wants to hear, or does he just not care?
 
Resume said:
At yesterday's COVID briefing propaganda conference, Trump blathered about upticks in European virus numbers (without context of course) which made me wonder: Does he honestly believe his response to the pandemic is exemplary and laudable, or do his handlers just feed him the nonsense he wants to hear, or does he just not care?
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Lying or stupid?
Lying or stupid?

So hard to decide. Wait.....maybe......both?
 
Stacyhs said:
I don't think there's hope for a certain population of America. Namely the type of idiots who voted for Marjorie Taylor Greene in Georgia.
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But if the hopeless part is in charge, if there are enough of them to control the election of the President, then we're all in the same boat with them.


There will always be idiots. The theory behind Democracy is that the reasonable people will outnumber them. Candidates will come forward offering to run the place, and people will judge whether they want him or some other person. If they choose Trump, something has gone seriously wrong, and the great American experiment in democracy must have failed.


Note to any Republican voters out there: I didn't always talk like this. It took a lot for Donald Trump to persuade me that he was so awful that there is no excuse for anyone to vote for him. You can read my record on this forum. There are an awful lot of excuses I've made for people who vote for Trump. Not this time around. If you still vote for Donald Trump, you deserve what you get.

I probably wouldn't actually leave America for Ireland, but it feels good to know it's at least an option for me.
 
Meadmaker said:
I was thinking about Dr. Atlas, Trump's new adviser. A few pages ago, I was talking about having a panel of doctors available to research, write, and update reports that would be used by the President and policy makers. I wouldn't mind if a guy like Atlas was on that panel, writing the "dissenting" sections. I think it's important that people see the diversity of opinions, and he should be able to present his own views, in more than just sound bites. Give us the data. Put it in charts or graphs. Show us the support for your thinking. I'm all for it.

Instead, he leads with the conclusions (such as "schools should open") and so Trump likes him. Data, shmata. Who cares about data? Trump knows, "He agrees with me, so he must be right."

If Trump doesn't get kicked out of office by the voters, it really might be time to dig that Irish passport out of mothballs. If the American people can't see through this schmuck after four years, I don't think there is hope for America.
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I can't see how a thinking person can possibly assert that his response to the pandemic has been anything but an abject failure. His bleating to open up states has been a disaster, and sorry, but his insistence that schools should re-open, sports should resume, without any plan whatever is idiotic. He is a stupid shallow man lacking any self-introspection and the worst human being to occupy the oval office in my lifetime, perhaps in the lifetime of this nation.

His re-election can only result in more disaster. There are those apologists who claim that America will survive, has survived worse, are kidding themselves. He is a horrible, horrible president.
 
Meadmaker said:
I probably wouldn't actually leave America for Ireland, but it feels good to know it's at least an option for me.
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The closest I have to Irish ancestors is a family who spent one generation there between the Scottish border and colonial America. And in NI, at that. I'd guess I don't qualify. Moved because they were Quakers, BTW.
Maybe I'll try Denmark, only 150 years on from there!
 
Stacyhs said:
Trump only wants people around him who echo his own opinions because, after all, they'd be right since he knows more about everything than anyone else. It's very simple, people.
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It's hard to maintain your fantasy when people are always reminding you of reality.
 
Resume said:
At yesterday's COVID briefing propaganda conference, Trump blathered about upticks in European virus numbers (without context of course)...
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Upticks in numbers, says the man who is president of a nation with 4% of the world's population and over 20% of reported Covid-19 cases. And he's wastuing everyone's time talking about 'upticks.'

Can you imagine if Clinton had won, what trump would be saying/accusing her of right now if the situation was exactly the same?
 
Bob001 said:
A gap year would probably be great for most kids in ordinary times. They could work at jobs and get some life experience, or travel if they've got the money. But today they're probably going to be home anyway; they may as well rack up some intro credits, maybe at the local CC instead of Expensive Brand Name U.
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For pete's sake don't these kids have internet? Couldn't they at least give part of the semesters online?
 
Belz... said:
For pete's sake don't these kids have internet? Couldn't they at least give part of the semesters online?
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That's what I meant by racking up credits while they're at home. If you're taking classes online it probably doesn't matter much whether you're enrolled in Prestige U. or the local community college, but the CC will be way cheaper. In-person college won't be happening for most kids for a long while.
 
Bob001 said:
That's what I meant by racking up credits while they're at home. If you're taking classes online it probably doesn't matter much whether you're enrolled in Prestige U. or the local community college, but the CC will be way cheaper. In-person college won't be happening for most kids for a long while.
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If you want an undergraduate degree from "Prestige U," it's questionable whether community college credits will transfer.
 
Babbylonian said:
If you want an undergraduate degree from "Prestige U," it's questionable whether community college credits will transfer.
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I went to Prestige U. (In my case, University of Illinois) They took most transfer credits for courses other than the core major requirements. i.e. I was in engineering. They would have accepted humanities credits, but not engineering credits. For physics, math, or chemistry, they would have also required an adequate score on a placement exam to count the credits.

I had a roommate who was majoring in psychology, but she could not do math to save her life. Psych majors had to take one algebra class, which she passed with a D, and one statistics class that was very, very, basic, but she flunked it twice. After her senior year, she enrolled in a comparable class at a community college, passed with a C, transferred the credit, and graduated.

If you went to super-prestige U, like Harvard or MIT, they might not accept the transfers, but U of I was a prestige school, especially in engineering, and they didn't have any issue with it, as long as you were getting rid of those classes the engineering college didn't care about.
 
Craig4 said:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/t...-from-wearing-masks/ar-BB17Rhz7?ocid=msedgdhp

Some dip **** sheriff in Florida (of course) bans his deputies and visitors to the office from wearing masks. I am beginning to believe that the moon landings really were a hoax. There is no way a country this stupid got to the moon.
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And, just to emphasize the stupid:

"Marion County set a single-day record on Tuesday for the most coronavirus deaths, with 13 reported, according to the Ocala Star Banner."

Marion county is where that sheriff holds sway.
 
Rudy W. Giuliani just tweeted

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Get this out Left will suppress this.
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Infectious Disease Specialist Dr. Stephen Smith
“#Hydroxychloroquine is the Beginning of the End of the Pandemic” – Dr. Stephen Smith Announces Hydroxy-Choloroquine Study that is “Game Changer” in Battle Against Coronavirus”
 
Wow, they're bringing back the old, debunked hits. Quack Stephen Smith said that nonsense back in April.
 
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