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Cancel culture IRL

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SuburbanTurkey said:
She got another job. I would assume she was chastened by the experience. Life moves on, as it seems to do with all these "victims" of cancel culture.
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Cancelled so hard we don't remember her name, even! Oh wait, that's evidence she wasn't cancelled very hard at all.
 
Distracted1 said:
They don't want to risk being cancelled.
Like this guy:

https://www.newsweek.com/shooting-police-officer-protest-wisconsin-black-lives-matter-1523915


"On August 8th, 2020 at approximately 8:05 PM, a large group gathered in the area of N. 100. St. and W. Vienna St. in the City of Wauwatosa. The group, estimated to be between fifty and sixty people, targeted the private residence of Wauwatosa Police Officer Joseph Mensah and began to vandalize the home," said Wauwatosa Police Department in a statement.

"Officer Mensah attempted to establish a dialog with the group but was ultimately physically assaulted outside of his home. As Officer Mensah retreated into his home, armed protestors approached the rear door and a single shotgun round was discharged by a member of the group into Officer Mensah's backdoor."
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That's truly awful. Firing a shotgun at a killer cop's house while he's cowering inside. They should be using a rifle for the precision fire needed for such activity.
 
d4m10n said:
With the intent of gathering a mob for the sake of punitive sanctions against an individual.
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As I said we've had that behaviour for a long time, it isn't anything new so why is it only now do we have a "cancel culture"?
 
d4m10n said:
So this would be an example of cancel culture if and only if the Kroger Andy tweet had the intended effect of causing a significant backlash?
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More precisely: this would be an example of cancel culture if and only if your reaction to the Kroger Andy tweet had the intended effect fo causing a significant backlash against Danielle.

Welcome to the Culture.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
She got another job. I would assume she was chastened by the experience. Life moves on, as it seems to do with all these "victims" of cancel culture.
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So....insignificant. Got it.


But, whatever else might be true, my comment was a response to

I've had some big whoopsies, but I can't say I've ever had a racist meltdown in public, which is often what it takes to get actually canceled. I feel fine chucking a stone. Maybe I can get a bit of spin on it too to really sting when it lands.
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Melissa Click, the professor in question, was not having a racist meltdown. She was protesting against racism.

It doesn't take racism. It takes anything controversial.
 
TragicMonkey said:
Hell, people have been "cancelling" people forever. It used to be because they had sex. Remember Ingrid Bergman's affair? Probably not, but it was a big deal at the time. Lawrence Welk having those divorced women on his show? That was a scandal and boycott.

eta: corrected Ingmar to Ingrid.
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They used to be called "pressure groups".. Classic UK example would be Mary Whitehouse and her National Viewers' and Listeners' Association, and you had an equivalent pressure group in regards to the terrible, sinful things shown on USA broadcast TV, can't remember the name of it.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
I've had some big whoopsies, but I can't say I've ever had a racist meltdown in public, which is often what it takes to get actually canceled. I feel fine chucking a stone. Maybe I can get a bit of spin on it too to really sting when it lands.
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Agreed. Just because you have a terrible fence and the whole neighborhood was talking about it for weeks does not mean it was in public. Right?
 
Distracted1 said:
They don't want to risk being cancelled.
Like this guy:

https://www.newsweek.com/shooting-police-officer-protest-wisconsin-black-lives-matter-1523915


"On August 8th, 2020 at approximately 8:05 PM, a large group gathered in the area of N. 100. St. and W. Vienna St. in the City of Wauwatosa. The group, estimated to be between fifty and sixty people, targeted the private residence of Wauwatosa Police Officer Joseph Mensah and began to vandalize the home," said Wauwatosa Police Department in a statement.

"Officer Mensah attempted to establish a dialog with the group but was ultimately physically assaulted outside of his home. As Officer Mensah retreated into his home, armed protestors approached the rear door and a single shotgun round was discharged by a member of the group into Officer Mensah's backdoor."
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We have legislation to deal with criminal acts, the only way that incident can be viewed as relevant in this thread is if you are proposing to make "cancel culture" illegal.
 
Darat said:
As I said we've had that behaviour for a long time, it isn't anything new so why is it only now do we have a "cancel culture"?
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Prior to widespread adoption of social media, I don't think it was easy or common for a public shaming to go much beyond a specific community of interest.

Darat said:
They used to be called "pressure groups".. Classic UK example would be Mary Whitehouse and her National Viewers' and Listeners' Association...
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I'd say we need cultural counterpressure against these organized moral entrepreneurs as well as the (much newer) phenomenon of unpaid volunteers performing semi-coordinated public shaming.
 
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Dr. Keith said:
More precisely: this would be an example of cancel culture if and only if your reaction to the Kroger Andy tweet had the intended effect fo causing a significant backlash against Danielle.
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There is a significant backlash against Danielle, from what I've seen, but no one appears to be trying to get her "canceled," that is, deplatformed/demonitized/unemployed. It's mostly just people making counterarguments and snide remarks.
 
Darat said:
We have legislation to deal with criminal acts, the only way that incident can be viewed as relevant in this thread is if you are proposing to make "cancel culture" illegal.
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I assumed "IRL" to mean "in real life".
Seems entirely relavent to this thread.

https://thegrio.com/2020/07/02/jay-z-wants-cop-prosecuted/

He is being cancelled.
Of course- this is not a new thing according to you, I am sure you have evidence of past instances of such mob activity. Perhaps they could have skipped the shotgun if they could have found a rope and a tall enough tree?
 
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SuburbanTurkey said:
That's truly awful. Firing a shotgun at a killer cop's house while he's cowering inside. They should be using a rifle for the precision fire needed for such activity.
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Or his girlfreind or children in the house. Those black lives are undeserving of the mobs consideration, of course.

Do you suppose this is what Jay Z has in mind?
 
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Emily's Cat said:
I'm having a really hard time reading this as anything other than you advocating for violence against cops and their families.
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You are being uncharitable. Focusing on the "cop" part- not the "killer" part of the post you are responding to.
Mobs are, it seems, entirely justified to harass and murder "killers". Trials are for the lazy, this justified cancellation that can be done right now.
 
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Meadmaker said:
Melissa Click, the professor in question, was not having a racist meltdown. She was protesting against racism.

It doesn't take racism. It takes anything controversial.
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She was explicitly calling for violence against other non-violent students. This is generally frowned upon in academia. A fall from grace and a temporary loss of a job seems like a manageable response.
 
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Distracted1 said:
Or his girlfreind or children in the house. Those black lives are undeserving of the mobs consideration, of course.

Do you suppose this is what Jay Z has in mind?
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Emily's Cat said:
I'm having a really hard time reading this as anything other than you advocating for violence against cops and their families.
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To be fair, I don't take Distracted's original comment as particularly relevant or intellectually serious, so I felt free to shine him on. I don't see how mobs of local people showing up at a killer cop's house is at all similar to internet mobs trying to get people fired.
 
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