Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 24

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The date for the election is in the constitution.

(And so is the length of his term... Even if bysome miracle the Presidential election was delayed past February, hi is out of a job on inauguration day, and next in line would be speaker of the house.

Again yes I understand that the guy wearing the Hockey Mask and holding the machete isn't legally allowed to murder me.

I'm still worried that he might still do it though.

"He can't do that!" doesn't mean he won't.
 
Again yes I understand that the guy wearing the Hockey Mask and holding the machete isn't legally allowed to murder me.

I'm still worried that he might still do it though.

"He can't do that!" doesn't mean he won't.


There are mechanisms that, if followed, can deal with the situation.

Sure, you can play the "What if...." game, and worry about what if no one follows those procedures, but at that point, no one really knows what will happen* - so why are you asking us?



*I expect it will be something like "And that's when American Democracy died", or "And that's when the civil war started", but again, that's just speculation. If you really don't think the established mechanisms are going to work, then the sky's the limit on what could happen. Stop pestering us about it, and start building a bunker.
 
There are mechanisms that, if followed, can deal with the situation.
I think the point of the metaphor is to ask what happens if the men and women who constitute the checks and balances simply don't care, ie. if enough the Republicans simply decide to try to not hold the election.

But yes, I do think it's a pretty unrealistic scenario.
 
What a speech by Obama. Wow. Condeming everything Trump while celebrating the legacy of Mr. Lewis. I will need to rewatch multiple times. Please check it out. Just finished, so no link yet. Do yourself a favor and watch it.
 
Related question: is there any particular reason why his musings about delaying the election have suddenly gotten him so much attention these days? Hasn't he been saying this on and off since before he even won the election in 2016? Also, the answer seems unchanged, given the Constitution hasn't changed or anything.

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Republicans in Congress are anxious to distance themselves from his desire to delay the elction, right?
Yea, sure, right.
Well... declaring his statements 'jokes' or 'sarcasm' is how GOPers distance themselves from them. It's a clever post-fact way to do so without actually having to call the Boy King wrong, or saying he was out of line.
 
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*Democratic and Republican governors*Thursday swiftly denounced President Donald Trump's suggestion the November presidential election be delayed, defending*the legitimacy of voting by mail*and assuring*voters the election will take place Nov. 3.
The blowback from the state level added to the*chorus of bipartisan criticism*nationally that followed Trump's tweet*in which, assailing mail-voting as "INACCURATE AND FRAUDULENT," he posed the question:*"Delay the Election until people can properly, securely and safely vote???"


Despite Trump's warnings vote-by-mail fraud, the nonpartisan Brennan Center for Justice at the New York School of Law said it's more likely for an American to "get struck by lightning than to commit mail voting fraud." Out of billions of votes cast across all U.S. elections from 2000 to 2012, one analysis found only 491 cases of absentee voter fraud.*
USA Today, July 30, 2020



Would Cheeto Benito change it if he could? Probably, if he thinks he'd lose. But I just don't see it happening. Yeah, yeah, I know....I've heard all the reasons why some think it could happen. I just don't agree.
 
What a speech by Obama. Wow. Condeming everything Trump while celebrating the legacy of Mr. Lewis. I will need to rewatch multiple times. Please check it out. Just finished, so no link yet. Do yourself a favor and watch it.

Probably why Trump made his outrageous suggestion about delaying the election, simply wanted to draw attention away from Obama's speech.
 
Again yes I understand that the guy wearing the Hockey Mask and holding the machete isn't legally allowed to murder me.

I'm still worried that he might still do it though.

"He can't do that!" doesn't mean he won't.

Given the number of times that Trump has done something that he 'couldn't' do because of 'checks and balances' I think its perfectly fair to worry about it.
 
The whole "Delay the Election until people can properly, securely and safely vote" reminds me of a science fiction setting in which a government agreed to give the top military commander absolute authority "for the duration of the current crisis". Several hundred years later his descendant was still running things, with no end of the "crisis" in sight.
 
Republicans in Congress are anxious to distance themselves from his desire to delay the elction, right?
Yea, sure, right.

Boss: Shut up. It's about your advertising campaign for Conquistador Coffee. Now, I've had the managing director of Conquistador to see me this morning and he's very unhappy with your campaign. Very unhappy. In fact, he's shot himself.

Frog: Badly, sir?

Boss: No, extremely well. (lifts up a leg belonging to a body behind desk, and holds up a card saying 'joke') Well, before he went he left a note with the company secretary (opens a nearby door; a dead company secretary falls out), the effect of which was how disappointed he was with your work and, in particular, why you had changed the name from Conquistador Instant Coffee to Conquistador Instant Leprosy. Why, Frog?

Frog: S. Frog, sir.

Boss: Shut up. Why did you do it?

Frog: It was a joke.

Boss: A joke? (holds up card saying 'joke')

Frog: No, no not a joke, a sales campaign. (holds up a card saying 'No, a Sales Campaign)

Boss: I see, Frog.
 
The whole "Delay the Election until people can properly, securely and safely vote" reminds me of a science fiction setting in which a government agreed to give the top military commander absolute authority "for the duration of the current crisis". Several hundred years later his descendant was still running things, with no end of the "crisis" in sight.
We are currently in a state of emergency that was declared in 1979 in response to the Iran hostage situation.
 
And when the red states side with Trump instead of the Constitution and refuse to hold the election, then what?
If a state didn't hold the November election, that would mean that Congressional candidates would not be elected, either; nor state, governors, other state officials, state propositions, etc.

Perhaps even trying to square the circle of holding state-level elections but not a presidential election because of covid and/or mail-in ballots is beyond them. Perhaps.
 
The whole "Delay the Election until people can properly, securely and safely vote" reminds me of a science fiction setting in which a government agreed to give the top military commander absolute authority "for the duration of the current crisis". Several hundred years later his descendant was still running things, with no end of the "crisis" in sight.

Sounds a bit like Ancient Rome.
 
- any senators up for reelection are out. So you only have 2/3rds of the senate left. Since the Republicans are defending more seats, they would lose the majority and the democrats would take over
You made me gulp really hard. There's still good news, though.

33 Dem Senators are not up for re-election. 30 Repub Senators are not. 2 Independent Senators (who caucus with the Dems) are not.

Even if you don't count the Independents with the Dems, it's still a total of 65 Senators with 33 Dems, a *bare* majority. If you count the Ind. with the dems, it's 35 Dems. Either way, Dems have the majority.

Sheesh. Whew.
 
The whole "Delay the Election until people can properly, securely and safely vote" reminds me of a science fiction setting in which a government agreed to give the top military commander absolute authority "for the duration of the current crisis". Several hundred years later his descendant was still running things, with no end of the "crisis" in sight.

The American revolutionaries admired a Roman called Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus, who was given dictator powers during an emergency and gave it up once the emergency was over. The city of Cincinnati is named after him.

It was an ideal both the Republican Romans and American revolutionaries strived towards. To always work for the good of the people and the republic, and not for personal gains or glory.

The ideal was forgotten during the late Roman Republic, and finally buried by Julius Caesar.

Let that be a lesson, Americans.

ETA: It's also why authoritarians have gone all in on the War on Terrorism. It's a war that can never be won, especially given that authoritarian governments can define terrorism as they like (See the campaign against Uighurs in China, Rohingyas in Myanmar, people who oppose Putin in Russia, etc..).
 
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