Jogging in Georgia while black.

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

Indeed, you are both correct...

"Two Glynn County commissioners say District Attorney Jackie Johnson’s office refused to allow the Glynn County Police Department to make arrests immediately after the Feb. 23 shooting death of Ahmaud Arbery."

“The police at the scene went to her, saying they were ready to arrest both of them. These were the police at the scene who had done the investigation,” Commissioner Allen Booker, who has spoken with Glynn County police, told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. “She shut them down to protect her friend McMichael.”

https://www.ajc.com/news/local/watc...hmaud-arbery-shooting/1aJbZe2uL9HrndjyWYjB2L/

Perhaps it's because I don't understand how the US police forces work, but this has never made sense to me. I just can't work out the sequence of events.

So the officers arrive on the scene, decide that the McMichaels need to be arrested and then...contact the DA to check if they can?

Or they let the McMichaels go, conduct an investigation, decide they want to arrest them and then...contact the DA in check if they can?

Do US cops usually contact the DA to check if they can arrest people? Bodycam footage suggests that they don't. And wouldn't approving every arrest leave little time for a DA to do anything else?

 

[Shadowdweller]

Incidentally, it seem that Jackie Johnson isn't the only crooked prosecutor in Bruswick GA.

https://www.ajc.com/news/dark-legac...ngtime-prosecutor/4SDCY5SP3FGKPJ4GVUTM4OLAMM/

That is SERIOUSLY disturbing

 

[Darat]

Incidentally, it seem that Jackie Johnson isn't the only crooked prosecutor in Bruswick GA.

https://www.ajc.com/news/dark-legac...ngtime-prosecutor/4SDCY5SP3FGKPJ4GVUTM4OLAMM/

...snip...

She said the AJC was focusing on a few murder cases out of dozens that Johnson prosecuted with the convictions affirmed

...snip...

How unfair of them - he only cheated in a few cases!

 

[JoeMorgue]

Perhaps it's because I don't understand how the US police forces work, but this has never made sense to me. I just can't work out the sequence of events.

So the officers arrive on the scene, decide that the McMichaels need to be arrested and then...contact the DA to check if they can?

Or they let the McMichaels go, conduct an investigation, decide they want to arrest them and then...contact the DA in check if they can?

Do US cops usually contact the DA to check if they can arrest people? Bodycam footage suggests that they don't. And wouldn't approving every arrest leave little time for a DA to do anything else?

This article makes it sound like they contacted the DA to give them a 'heads up' so to speak, not to ask permission per se, and the DA instructed them not to arrest McMichael.

The whole thing just reeks of classic Southern "Good Ole' Boy" networks.

https://www.ajc.com/news/local/watc...hmaud-arbery-shooting/1aJbZe2uL9HrndjyWYjB2L/

 

[Darat]

This article makes it sound like they contacted the DA to give them a 'heads up' so to speak, not to ask permission per se, and the DA instructed them not to arrest McMichael.

The whole thing just reeks of classic Southern "Good Ole' Boy" networks.

https://www.ajc.com/news/local/watc...hmaud-arbery-shooting/1aJbZe2uL9HrndjyWYjB2L/

Yeah it sounds to me more a conversation along the lines of

Cop:"Sir, we have an ex cop and his son who killed a ****** will you be prosecuting them?"

DA: "New to the job are you? Of course not, clear self defence."

Cop:"Don't you want to see the evidence?"

DA:"New and dumb. There better not be any evidence!"

 

[quadraginta]

Perhaps it's because I don't understand how the US police forces work, but this has never made sense to me. I just can't work out the sequence of events.

So the officers arrive on the scene, decide that the McMichaels need to be arrested and then...contact the DA to check if they can?

Or they let the McMichaels go, conduct an investigation, decide they want to arrest them and then...contact the DA in check if they can?

Do US cops usually contact the DA to check if they can arrest people? Bodycam footage suggests that they don't. And wouldn't approving every arrest leave little time for a DA to do anything else?

That is going to depend on a number of variables. The regional culture, the size of the municipality, the players involved, etc., etc..

In this case a few of them were ticked which made such behavior more likely. Small town (Brunswick has a population of somewhat over 15,000. Fairly small.), southeast Georgia (which is the kind of area that "good ol' boys" and Georgia cracker" epitomises), three white guys claiming self defense against a black corpse in no condition to contradict them, and one of those white guys being ex-LEO with a personal friendship with the local DA.

I'm not real surprised they checked in with her.

Darat's post explains much of the rest quite poignantly.

 

[ponderingturtle]

That is SERIOUSLY disturbing

Fairly common really.

 

[pgwenthold]

Fairly common really.

Remember back at the beginning of this thread and all the hand-wringing about how we had to examine every aspect of the victim's life to find a way to justify his murder?

 

[Dr. Keith]

This article makes it sound like they contacted the DA to give them a 'heads up' so to speak, not to ask permission per se, and the DA instructed them not to arrest McMichael.

The whole thing just reeks of classic Southern "Good Ole' Boy" networks.

https://www.ajc.com/news/local/watc...hmaud-arbery-shooting/1aJbZe2uL9HrndjyWYjB2L/

What is the point of being DA if you can't exercise discretion?

 

[JoeMorgue]

What is the point of being DA if you can't exercise discretion?

"What the point of being the DA if you can't sweep the murder of a no-good dirty black under the rug?"

I'm done with the text being the subtext. Either own your racism or get rid of it.

 

[pgwenthold]

"What the point of being the DA if you can't sweep the murder of a no-good dirty black under the rug?"

I'm done with the text being the subtext. Either own your racism or get rid of it.

When Vicky Lawrence sang The Night the Lights Went Out in Georgia, there is an important consequence that gets overlooked. Yeah, they hing an innocent man, but that means that they let go a guilty person.

 

[casebro]

That is going to depend on a number of variables. The regional culture, the size of the municipality, the players involved, etc., etc..

In this case a few of them were ticked which made such behavior more likely. Small town (Brunswick has a population of somewhat over 15,000. Fairly small.), southeast Georgia (which is the kind of area that "good ol' boys" and Georgia cracker" epitomises), three white guys claiming self defense against a black corpse in no condition to contradict them, and one of those white guys being ex-LEO with a personal friendship with the local DA.

I'm not real surprised they checked in with her.

Darat's post explains much of the rest quite poignantly.

And don't forget cops who are high school dropouts that do need supervision- "Officer Fife, check with somebody before you arrest ANYBODY".

 

[Dr. Keith]

"What the point of being the DA if you can't sweep the murder of a no-good dirty black under the rug?"

I'm done with the text being the subtext. Either own your racism or get rid of it.

Do I have to make it clear we are on the same page? God, I hope not.

 

[bluesjnr]

Do I have to make it clear we are on the same page? God, I hope not.

You were hit by overwoke. It's spreading rapidly on this forum and dulls the victims ability to read anything and NOT accuse the writer of racism.

I'd be careful about any attempt at clarification.

 

[JoeMorgue]

Do I have to make it clear we are on the same page? God, I hope not.

Then what's your point?

In what context outside of a black man being murdered and the DA covering it up did your little comment mean anything?

 

[Thermal]

You were hit by overwoke. It's spreading rapidly on this forum and dulls the victims ability to read anything and NOT accuse the writer of racism.

I'd be careful about any attempt at clarification.

That's racist.

 

[Emily's Cat]

"What the point of being the DA if you can't sweep the murder of a no-good dirty black under the rug?"

I'm done with the text being the subtext. Either own your racism or get rid of it.

I have no idea how you're inferring racism of any sort from Dr. Keith. Is your sarcasm detector broken? Or do you have him confused with someone else?

In what context outside of a black man being murdered and the DA covering it up did your little comment mean anything?

When was the last time you rebooted your humor drive? Try turning it off then back on again, that might fix it.

 

[smartcooky]

You were hit by overwoke. It's spreading rapidly on this forum and dulls the victims ability to read anything and NOT accuse the writer of racism.

I'd be careful about any attempt at clarification.

I have no idea how you're inferring racism of any sort from Dr. Keith. Is your sarcasm detector broken? Or do you have him confused with someone else?
When was the last time you rebooted your humor drive? Try turning it off then back on again, that might fix it.

It is very difficult to detect sarcasm on a forum if you don't have a clear idea of at least some of that poster's body of work. Put the words Dr Keith wrote into a post by some of our "usual suspect" racist posters, or even into a post by a noob posting here for the first time, and see how well your "sarcasm detector" works then!

If I didn't know Dr. Keith's attitude from reading his posts, I would have reacted the same way that Joe Morgue did.


ETA: Perhaps using the emoji kindly provided by the forum management would help make such posts clearer.
(see what I did there?)

 

[Mike!]

It is very difficult to detect sarcasm on a forum if you don't have a clear idea of at least some of that poster's body of work. Put the words Dr Keith wrote into a post by some of our "usual suspect" racist posters, or even into a post by a noob posting here for the first time, and see how well your "sarcasm detector" works then!

If I didn't know Dr. Keith's attitude from reading his posts, I would have reacted the same way that Joe Morgue did.


ETA: Perhaps using the emoji kindly provided by the forum management would help make such posts clearer.
(see what I did there?)

That's the trouble with sarcasm in print. It's so easily missed. In a genuine verbal exchange, where just the tone of voice makes the intent clear, it's hardly required.
Maybe they should make the emoji one of the quick clicks at the top of a post box for ease of use these days.

 

[quadraginta]

That's the trouble with sarcasm in print. It's so easily missed. In a genuine verbal exchange, where just the tone of voice makes the intent clear, it's hardly required.
Maybe they should make the emoji one of the quick clicks at the top of a post box for ease of use these days.

I just use this one ...



It's already conveniently at hand in the box full of smilies at the right of the edit window.

It doesn't always work, of course. And sometimes I forget to use it. Mea culpa, oops, and all that stuff. Sometimes I feel like it ought to be obvious enough that extra clues ought not be needful. Sometimes I'm wrong about that too.

Real life also has occasional failures to perceive sarcasm. Sometimes tone of voice is not sufficient either. Communication among humans is not always a perfect system, on screen or off.