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Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 23

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Oh, and bear with me because here's where it gets complicated, he just doesn't go away and doesn't put any effort into actually justifying it or making up an excuse because neither he nor his followers care.

The Constitution says when the President's term ends. It says nothing about when the Troll in Chief's term does.
 
The Don said:
If there's any kind of "blue wave" which results in a number of Senate Republicans being out on their rears, then it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to assume that they would be willing to declare the election rigged and demand a full investigation into it.

A quick court case in a "favourable" state and have it kicked up to the Supreme Court and take their chances ?

Indeed, in swing states where they hold the state legislature, could they declare the results void, or conduct a recount excluding votes (postal or otherwise) from districts deemed suspect (which also happen to be Democratic Party leaning) ?
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I wouldn't be surprised to see a repeat of 2000.

Order a hand recount, then when the recount is taking too long, declare it a strain on the nation not to have a result yet, so the SCOTUS authorizes itself to rule who won from the courts, rather than wait to learn the preference of the electorate.
 
blutoski said:
Sure there is. "C" is for "Constitutional Crisis."

Replace Ginsberg when she dies in October, swear in a rabid Trumpie, and the SCOTUS can vote 5-4 that the Constitution does not *actually* say the President's term ends, it's just been misinterpreted up to now.

Just like the 1st Amendment *actually* says corporations are people. And that the 2nd Amendment isn't about Militias, it's *actually* about every American being expected to operate an armory. And so on.
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Indeed.
 
It would almost work in Trump's favor more if the Democrats win, because that will fit into story better. At a certain point in the narrative the evil shadow forces taking on Trump have to win or the story gets boring.
 
JoeMorgue said:
It would almost work in Trump's favor more if the Democrats win, because that will fit into story better. At a certain point in the narrative the evil shadow forces taking on Trump have to win or the story gets boring.
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It would undermine his position if Republicans do pretty well nationally and it's just him that fails miserably.
 
Regardless the absolute worst thing the Democrats could do right now, which means it absolutely what they are going to do, is starting to sell the narrative that they are only going to beat Trump if they really beat him bad.
 
blutoski said:
Sure there is. "C" is for "Constitutional Crisis."

Replace Ginsberg when she dies in October, swear in a rabid Trumpie, and the SCOTUS can vote 5-4 that the Constitution does not *actually* say the President's term ends, it's just been misinterpreted up to now.

Just like the 1st Amendment *actually* says corporations are people. And that the 2nd Amendment isn't about Militias, it's *actually* about every American being expected to operate an armory. And so on.
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Please don't do that. It's been a long day at work and I'm planning to sleep tonight.
 
alfaniner said:
Our only hope is that Trump has such a breakdown before the Election that is obvious he must be replaced.
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They'll find a puddle of orange fat in the Oval Office, with a TV remote and a cognitive ability test card floating in it. The card will have "Grate Job! 100!" printed on it in Sharpie.
 
JoeMorgue said:
But nobody bring up the suggestion that Trump just might refuse to step down. We wouldn't want to be "dramatic" now would we?

Just pretend he's going to be playing the "The election isn't going to be legit" song from now to November just because he likes the beat and not because he wants to get it stuck in his followers heads.
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As was mentioned, during the Chris Wallace interview, his response to whether he would accept the election results, win or lose, was "I have to see. Look, you -- I have to see. No, I'm not going to just say yes. I'm not going to say no, and I didn't last time either."
 
RolandRat said:
Pelosi states there are procedures and the current occupant will be fumigated out if he refuses to leave
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Oh so the party that has not once managed to make Trump do anything will just magically make him do something. Good for a second there I was worried.
 
JoeMorgue said:
Oh so the party that has not once managed to make Trump do anything will just magically make him do something. Good for a second there I was worried.
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I just don't think Trump being able to stay on if he is beaten is very credible, I can't see it happening despite the rhetoric Trump might put out.
 
timhau said:
Haven't you noticed by now the Trumpistas' expertise in denying the obvious?
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Hell 9 times out of 10 they don't even give up the common courtesy of denying the obvious. They just refuse to even acknowledge the obvious.

We're no longer ignoring the elephant the room. One side has straight up actually convinced themselves the elephant isn't there.
 
RolandRat said:
I just don't think Trump being able to stay on if he is beaten is very credible, I can't see it happening despite the rhetoric Trump might put out.
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Again we are not limited to "Peaceful and respectful transition of power" and "Trump plays out the plotline to XXX: State of the Union."

Sure unless this takes a hard turn into full crazyworld Trump will leave office if he loses the election. But I have no desire to watch him, in our current state of social interaction and political discourse, try to find out exactly how difficult he can make it and how long he can draw it out.
 
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alfaniner said:
Our only hope is that Trump has such a breakdown before the Election that is obvious he must be replaced.
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It's been obvious since before 2016. Whatever he does, the trumpkins will either defend, or deflect with "quick! Look at Biden!"

I find it more likely that his ratings will die the death of a thousand cuts.

Heck, come to think of it, do we even want Trump sacked this close to the election? I think Pence has a significantly higher chance of beating Biden, and I don't want four years of Pence more than I want four more years of Wannabe Hitler.

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timhau said:
Haven't you noticed by now the Trumpistas' expertise in denying the obvious?
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I'm not even sure if they even really need Trump to be president. In their eyes, he does a great job at furthering their goals by doing very little. He seems to be trying to come across as more of a figurehead than an actual president. Let the common people do the actual work, while he sits on his throne basking in the glory of the presidency, shifting blame downwards when things go wrong and taking all the credit when something goes right. He doesn't need to do anything, he leads and inspires by his sheer majesty and radiance.
 
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Pelosi states there are procedures and the current occupant will be fumigated out if he refuses to leave:
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Now I really want to see Trump refuse to leave the White House for then to be fumigated out, preferrably straight into a waiting police cruiser, and preferrably kicking and screaming :D .
 
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