PartSkeptic’s Thread for Predictions and Other Matters of Interest

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That antisemitic slurs being thrown at me are not justified. Please stop it.

Then explain how what you said is not anti-semitic.

However the responses by posters here were entirely predictable.

Yes, because anti-semitism is entirely unacceptable.
I echo what Matthew Ellard suggested: Your reading of history seems to be based on what you've gleaned from far-right sites. I'd ask you to link to your sources, but I don't want to soil myself with such filth, and I certainly don't want those sites on my browser history.
I'm also inclined to agree with Pixel42, in that there seems little point in responding to you as you simply refuse to answer the majority of fact-based, on-topic questions, preferring instead to keep spewing insults, bigotry and irrelevant and/or unprovable anecdotes.
A final point: If everyone thinks you're wrong, it's just possible that you might actually be wrong. Not just factually wrong, but morally wrong too. Worth thinking about.
 
Please give annual inflows from countries and the outflows. And the trades and industries the new immigrant took up - and why. And who were the emigrants? How long had they been German citizens and what were their professions?

Instead of Wiki try reading some REAL history written by people who were there and doing research.

Just for information, here are the sources used in the Jewish population in Germany table in the Wiki article "History of the Jews in Germany".

And I will decline your request as the ridiculous amount of information you asked for would take a large book to provide.

"Germany". Edwardvictor.com. Retrieved April 16, 2013.

"Jewish Population of Europe in 1945". Ushmm.org. Retrieved April 16, 2013.

DESMOND BUTLERPublished: November 15, 2002 (November 15, 2002). "Germany Plans to Raise Status of Nation's Jews – New York Times". Nytimes.com. Retrieved April 16, 2013.

"Statistical Abstract of Israel 2012 – No. 63 Subject 2 – Table No. 27". .cbs.gov.il. Archived from the original on November 13, 2012. Retrieved April 16, 2013.
 
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The virus does not (at this stage) need to cause massive mortality.

The world's population has increased by 81 million in the last year. Covid-19 has killed 600 thousand, globally. 1.35 million people die in road crashes each year around the world.

Is your God telling us to get rid of cars?
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It's now ten weeks since PartSkeptic agreed to do a simple blind test of his claim to be able to tell whether or not the wifi is switched on from his physical symptoms.
 
The world's population has increased by 81 million in the last year. Covid-19 has killed 600 thousand, globally. 1.35 million people die in road crashes each year around the world.

Is your God telling us to get rid of cars?
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As I mentioned before, if God is serious about reducing the population, all that he has to do is to lower human fertility. Surely an omnipotent God could do such a simple thing?
 
As I mentioned before, if God is serious about reducing the population, all that he has to do is to lower human fertility. Surely an omnipotent God could do such a simple thing?


My God is part of the Ultimate Intelligence. He has to follow the "script" somewhat. He also has to give humans free will. But he is allowed to intervene to change direction as is he were a part of nature.

If there was a drastic drop in fertility it would be noticed as "unusual". Then it might need restoring. Another unusual intervention.

But humans need to "see the error of their ways". Social change would not come about with your solution. In fact, if anything, it might make the situation worse. The elite will hold on and get more and the poor will die off due to added stressors. The Law of Unintended Consequences. Nope - you need to know the rules, and you need the vast intelligence of a God to be able to give him advice. I just go with what seems to be the plan.

But thanks for trying and put forth a proposal.
 
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God's Laws? Those are jewish. Those laws also support slavery, genocide, actual human sacrifice, rape, incest, injustice and so on. Humanity has, over centuries, striven to wipe out those and you want to bring them back.

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Are you now guilty of antisemitism? (Tongue in cheek.)

You are right about the ills of early Abrahamic religion. If the Jews got it right the first time and that their book (The Torah) had the message correct, then why was it necessary for God to send Jesus to upgrade the message? Did Jesus teach the sins that you have listed?

And if both the Christians and the Jews got it right, why did God send Muhammad to read both books (Old and New), then observe their behavior, and write a new book incorporating the two earlier books and set some things right?

The extremists of all three of those Abrahamic religions are not practicing the tolerance that religions of all mainstream kinds embrace. You all know the historical faults of the Catholic Church, the terror and extremism of ISIL. Any other extremists you care to name?

And how has humanity tried to improve the situation? With God's help, I dare say. Mostly men of religion. And since I want the best for all peoples and all religions, on what basis do you say I want to go back to sinful practices. It is you who are contradicting yourself.
 
Complete gibberish.

If you think you can bluff your way through a discussion of statistical mechanics, you are sadly mistaken. You clearly have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.


Really! Have a look at how many times you try unsupported put-downs in a way that makes you appear as if YOU are an expert. You can fool some people.

The shoe is on the other foot. As part of the lessons I had to learn, I researched the scientific ideas about the structure and nature of the universe. I learned quantum physics at university. E=Mc^2 has not changed since then.

Vacuum energy, dark matter and dark energy are some of the mysterious things in our universe. We see effects but are struggling to understand their nature since they have no physical equivalent that we know of. Some physicists talk about "virtual particles" as if they are "real" when in fact they are a mathematical construct (see Feynman diagrams). They do, however, appear to be a burst of energy taking part in reactions such as decay.

Perhaps you can take over from Pixel42 and suggest an "uncaused" effect. Show us your stuff.
 
My God is part of the Ultimate Intelligence. He has to follow the "script" somewhat. He also has to give humans free will. But he is allowed to intervene to change direction as is he were a part of nature.

If there was a drastic drop in fertility it would be noticed as "unusual". Then it might need restoring. Another unusual intervention.

But humans need to "see the error of their ways". Social change would not come about with your solution. In fact, if anything, it might make the situation worse. The elite will hold on and get more and the poor will die off due to added stressors. The Law of Unintended Consequences. Nope - you need to know the rules, and you need the vast intelligence of a God to be able to give him advice. I just go with what seems to be the plan.

But thanks for trying and put forth a proposal.

So your god is the victim of another god? Who is God's god? Is it gods all the way down?
 
My God is part of the Ultimate Intelligence. He has to follow the "script" somewhat. He also has to give humans free will. But he is allowed to intervene to change direction as is he were a part of nature.
God can't intervene in human affairs apart from when he can. :rolleyes:

We should any of us believe this isn't just the same old ad hoc special pleading that believers of all stripes wheel out when faced with awkward questions about why God appears to behave in ways that make no apparent sense and doesn't behave in ways that would make apparent sense?

You just made this up. It isn't true. Why should anyone believe it?
 
If there was a drastic drop in fertility it would be noticed as "unusual". Then it might need restoring. Another unusual intervention.
What about a virus that causes a significant amount of people to become infertile would be seen as unusual but a virus that causes 60% of the world's population to be killed wouldn't be seen as unusual? Why would one required a "restoration" and the other wouldn't? Why would a restoration be required at all? How do you know any of this? Why does it come across as a string of ad hoc excuses you're desperately pulling out of thin air in order to patch up an obviously made up story? Etc. etc.

You're just making this up. None of it makes any sense at all. You say God's following a script but you've deliberately inserted various get out clauses so that when 60% of the world's population doesn't die due to COVID-19 (and we all know that won't happen) you won't admit you're wrong, but that God changed the plan for some made up reason you'll wheel out (or already have, I've forgotten most of the rambling excuses you've come up with for why none of this makes any sense and hasn't actually happened so far in the way you supposedly predicted). Even when you're wrong you'll claim to be right. Like all doomsayers, when the catastrophe doesn't happen, instead of admitting error, you'll just have an pre-baked excuse for why you're right even when you're wrong.
 
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I learned quantum physics at university.

As did a lot of people. Which is to say, quite a lot of people make the attempt. We've been teaching it in universities for quite a number of decades. And as a result, those who teach it acquire a sixth sense for the handful of particular ways students misconceive the workings of statistical mechanics at the quantum level.

You have a blind spot when it comes to all your bluffing. You truly think you can quickly Google stuff, or rely on biased secondary-source summaries, and that no one will notice when you fall into the various pitfalls that await people just then trying to come to terms with a new topic. Or when they try to discuss it among people with more generalized understanding. These pitfalls that are well known and easily recognized by those who are conversant with the topic and in some cases were called upon to teach it.

Your "knowledge" of electromagnetic field energy comes from the anti-capitalist polemical literature. How can we tell? They make specific kinds of errors in interpreting the science. It's like a signature. Your "knowledge" of world history comes from the far-right extremum. How can we tell? They make certain assertions and misrepresentations that are also characteristic, and which you have clearly copied. No one else talks about it that way. Your "knowledge" of quantum electrodynamics comes from woo-ish pseudo-physics. How can we tell? They conceptualize it in a certain specific (wrong) way, with the desire for it to leave the door open for whatever mysterious phenomena they think they can shoehorn into it. The actual purported phenomenon varies, but you'd hardly be the first to try combine quantum mechanics and Aristotle.

Oh, sure, you've thrown out a few buzzwords, as you typically do. And you've gesticulated in a suitable manner around them, without really applying any sort of coherent understanding. And you've made an "argument" around causation that is popular among the woo authors who lament how physics spoil their fun. (Real physicists don't care.) But just as you made fundamental errors in understanding radiation, and fundamental errors in understanding genetics, you're making fundamental errors in understanding quantum mechanics -- chiefly that physics cannot know whether vacuum fluctuations are uncaused. How do we know you're making a fundamental error? Every woo author steps over this principle. And because that's where you're getting your information, it's something you evidently don't know. But it's fairly important.

Here's a tip. When someone starts talking about descriptive statistics and you say it's too laborious or uninteresting for you to pay attention to, you're going to have a really hard time convincing those same people later than you are so proficient in an esoteric field based on statistical mechanics to be able to wave your finger and tell others it doesn't dispel your pseudo-Aristotelian theology.

Your theology is gibberish, as is your attempt to hand-wave around the science that dispels it. You still somehow think we can't tell. Baffling.

Perhaps you can take over from Pixel42 and suggest an "uncaused" effect. Show us your stuff.

Oh, look. You're frantically trying to shift the onus when cornered. What a surprise.
 
As did a lot of people. Which is to say, quite a lot of people make the attempt. We've been teaching it in universities for quite a number of decades. And as a result, those who teach it acquire a sixth sense for the handful of particular ways students misconceive the workings of statistical mechanics at the quantum level.
Most of modern physics is counter-intuitive, if you're going to get any real understanding of quantum mechanics you need to be able to leave your intuition at the door. That's difficult enough for most people; for someone like PartSkeptic, who takes it for granted that what his intuition tells him is always correct even if decades of careful scientific investigation have shown otherwise, it's obviously impossible. That's why he must hand wave away a core discovery of the most successful physical theory ever developed, and insist that he knows better than some of the greatest minds of the 20th century.

Over 40 years ago, whilst doing my Maths degree, I attended a lecture in which the lecturer derived Schrodinger's Wave Equation from first principles. I can still remember how I felt as everything suddenly became clear to me, I think it was the closest I've even come to a religious experience. I never quite recaptured that moment of total understanding, but I'm grateful to have had it. I can almost feel sorry for PartSkeptic that he will never experience such understanding. Then I remember that it's his own arrogance and intransigence which are standing in his way, and decide that it serves him right.
 
My God is part of the Ultimate Intelligence. He has to follow the "script" somewhat. He also has to give humans free will. But he is allowed to intervene to change direction as is he were a part of nature.

Your god is just the same flip-floppy nonsense that Scorpion tried to foist for months before he got frustrated, melted down, and ran away. You're pretty much on track to do the exact same thing. As others have mentioned, it's a god whose behavior and godly will somehow manages to coincide perfectly with the capricious and illogical observations of the universe while at the same time maintaining an omniscient dignity that we should all worship for some reason.

But humans need to "see the error of their ways".

And along comes PartSkeptic, who evidently has a special role to play in helping that happen. It's been revealed to him by his god that viruses and cell towers are how he's going to cull the herd. Which, I guess in the long run, teaches the ancient godly virtue of vendetta.

Social change would not come about with your solution.

Whereas history is full of cases where people who claimed their gods tell them about the errors of others' ways have acted upon that revelation to create long-lasting periods of global peace and harmony.

I just go with what seems to be the plan.

A plan that gives you a favored role in it as the messenger of your god, exceptionally cognizant of the eternal rules by which that god can and cannot operate, while others (like skeptics) have to stumble around in darkness.

I know you're not trying to make this a narcissistic argument. But it just is.
 
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