Cont: The all-new "US Politics and coronavirus" thread pt. 2

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Texas just recorded its highest single day number of Covid 19 DEATHS, not cases. How will Trump spin this? It's only higher because we're counting more deaths? When more deaths are being counted, the number of deaths go up? We've got the greatest counting of deaths in the world!
 
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Texas just recorded its highest single day number of Covid 19 DEATHS, not cases. How will Trump spin this? It's only higher because we're counting more deaths? When more deaths are being counted, the number of deaths go up? We've got the greatest counting of deaths in the world!
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That's why he wants to eliminate the CDC from the reporting process
 
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Just seen this:

Ohio man shuns masks, dies of Covid (NY Daily News; other reports are available).

Army veteran, 37, so possibly relatively healthy, though the pics make him look a bit overweight. Hopefully didn’t infect anyone else.
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I think this should get a bit more notice. This is both tragic and absolutely foolish. It also plays into trump's ongoing effort -- since he can't control the Covid-19 outbreak -- to downplay it. I've even read comments here -- a lot of them -- from people who seem convinced that, unless you're elderly or have a serious preexisting medical condition, coronavirus is a pretty mild ailment. Only it's not. Medical officials continually remind people, we DON'T KNOW what the long term effects of Covid-19 are. As noted, the quotes are from the New York Daily News (which is a mostly pro-trump newspaper).

U.S. Army veteran Richard Rose survived two tours of duty in Iraq and Afghanistan during his nine years in the military. The 37-year-old was tragically felled by coronavirus on the Fourth of July. Rose, who refused to wear a mask because he thought the virus was over-hyped, died just three days after being diagnosed with COVID-19 on July 1, reported WOIO-TV...“Let’s make this clear,” he wrote on Facebook, according to WOIO. “I’m not buying a mask. I’ve made it this far by not buying into that damn hype.”

His friends are trying to get his story out to others about the importance of taking the virus seriously. They are also working to dispel the notion that the virus only affects older people and those with underlying conditions. Rose’s family told WOIO that he had no known underlying conditions.
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Aridas said:
To poke at Fauci a little, looks like the Lincoln Project has a Fauci ad made, now.
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Awesome.

I was in a car today, which is unusual in these times, listening to a local right wing yapper, and he was bemoaning the state of the government, because there was Fauci talking, and he was saying things that other people in the government weren't saying, so it was all just a mess.

The last line of the commercial is the relevant retort to that yapper. "Who should you trust, the dope, or the doctor?"



And of course the yapper went on to field a bunch of calls about why masks weren't important and would damage your health and.......fill in the rest of the BS.
 
Georgia governor Kemp just banned cities and counties from requiring masks.

What on earth is it with Republicans??
 
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Georgia governor Kemp just banned cities and counties from requiring masks.

What on earth is it with Republicans??
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They like to protect people's individual freedoms.


Unless of course it's a woman's freedom to choose, a member of a minority's freedom to live without prejudice and so on....
 
The corruption we don't see, (at least it's not in the news yet but I suspect it will be):

FB page of Heather Cox Richardson: Trump tied hospitals sending their COVID data to one of his cronies if they want to get any Remdesivir for their patients, literally.
... HHS Protect, and TeleTracking. Last Friday, the Department of Health and Human Services announced that, beginning today, hospitals should report daily information about coronavirus cases not through the CDC system, which has been in place for 15 years, but rather through the other two.
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We all know why, but here's something else:
HHS Protect is developed by Palantir Technologies, a data-mining firm that works with the Pentagon and law enforcement agencies, including Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). Peter Thiel, a billionaire Trump supporter, co-founded the company, which last week confidentially filed paperwork with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission to go public. An initial public offering (IPO) would have made bucketloads of money in any case, but a federal contract to compile coronavirus information is a sweet addition to its portfolio.
The TeleTracking system also raises suspicions of a financial deal. On June 3, Chair of the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor & Pensions Senator Patty Murray (D-WA) wrote to the director of the CDC, Dr. Robert Redfield and the Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response at the Department of Health and Human Services, Dr. Robert P. Kadlec, to ask why HHS had awarded a $10 million no-bid contract to create this data system that duplicated the one the CDC already had. Why indeed?
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So $10 million plus a bonus when the company goes public. This is why Trump has so much support from the GOP. Got a friend in need of a no-bid contract based on a promise rather than a history of providing that product or service? Go see Trump.

Kudos to Patty Murray, BTW.

Then there is the stick to make hospitals comply:
There is, in the letter shifting data collection, a peculiarly nasty stick. Underlined on the first page of the instructions is that “We will no longer be sending out one-time requests for data to aid in the distribution of Remdesivir or any other treatments or supplies. This daily reporting is the only mechanism used for the distribution calculations, and the daily [sic] is needed daily to ensure accurate calculations.”
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Also, they've already turned off the CDC page that was reporting the COVID data.
 
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If you thought that the wackos in Palm Beach County, Florida were a lot of fun, check out this mask meeting in Utah. [nbc news] It had to be cancelled due to the room being "packed with unmasked people" and boy did they bring the crazy.

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“We are perpetuating a lie,” one woman who said she has five grandchildren said. “COVID is a hoax. It’s a lie. It’s a political stunt," The Salt Lake Tribune reported.

A mother suggested that masks cut down on a person’s oxygen, and a father said COVID-19 is no different than the flu, according to the Tribune.

Another parent of two children, ages 10 and 3, said she is concerned that wearing a mask would teach her older child to fear the world and that both of her kids would not learn proper socialization if their faces were covered, the Tribune reported.

“It’s going to rewire their brains,” the mother said. “I’m especially not going to send my son back to have his mind broken.”
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carlosy said:
https://www.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#cases

Works for me.
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Restored after serious objections, if I read correctly, albeit not going to be updated further?

Representatives of the CDC did not immediately respond to CNBC’s request for comment. Later in the day, the CDC restored the site’s previous dashboards with data through Tuesday, saying: “This file will not be updated after July 14, 2020 and includes data from April 1 to July 14.”
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Withering criticism from Maryland's governor (who is Republican).

https://theweek.com/speedreads/9258...athing-indictment-trumps-coronavirus-response



I could almost feel sorry for Donald Trump. He's in over his head. He was unqualified for the job and should never have been elected, and he just doesn't have the skills for this sort of thing. However, I don't actually feel sorry for him. If he were to recognize the problem, and resign like he ought to, then maybe I'd have a tiny bit of respect for him. Needless to say, that won't happen. It's pure fantasy. It would be a completely unprecedented move, and besides, the very pathology that makes him so awful at disaster response is what would prevent anything like it from happening. So, we're stuck with him until January 20, at least.

And that's unfortunate.
 
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