Split Thread "Pizzagate" and images of triangles

Bubba said:
A real skeptics toolbox has no room for ad hominem attacks.
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How would you know? If Q claimed the moon was made out of chocolate, you would parrot it instantly and attack/belittle everyone who said otherwise. :rolleyes:
 
Vixen said:
Sorry? You didn't know Clinton visited Little St James at least 26 times, as per the Lolita Express log book? That Epstein has a large painting of Bill Clinton in a blue dress and red stilettos?

And what about Bill Gates, Clinton chum, also such a frequent flyer he gets points and the VIP lounge. You do know Epstein helped found the Bill Gates Foundation, or at least contributed vast sums?

You didn't know Bill Clinton was a sleazy louche?
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Of all those things, the only one I knew was Clinton's reputation. The painting thing is weird but it's unclear what inference I should draw from it. Do you have any context or is that it?

You tell us Clinton and Gates each visited Epstein's holiday island several times. And? Is that the limit of the innuendo and we just let our imagination lead us the rest of the way?

By telling us Epstein made vast contributions to the Gates Foundation are you trying to tell us he had a positive, charitable side as well as a criminal side?
 
Jack by the hedge said:
Of all those things, the only one I knew was Clinton's reputation. The painting thing is weird but it's unclear what inference I should draw from it. Do you have any context or is that it?

You tell us Clinton and Gates each visited Epstein's holiday island several times. And? Is that the limit of the innuendo and we just let our imagination lead us the rest of the way?

By telling us Epstein made vast contributions to the Gates Foundation are you trying to tell us he had a positive, charitable side as well as a criminal side?
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I refer you to Jimmy Savile.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
Of all those things, the only one I knew was Clinton's reputation. The painting thing is weird but it's unclear what inference I should draw from it. Do you have any context or is that it?
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I've argued this one before (I think it was on Quora rather than here), the painting is odd, but unless someone can actually demonstrate that it was painted from life it has no more relevance than an extremely expensive political cartoon.
 
Vixen said:
The Daily Mirror doesn't do topless.
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The Daily Mirror quite happily prints unsubstantiated stuff and, on occasions, outright makes it up.

As regards Gates:

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-...-epsteins-island-multiple-times-idUSKBN22R2C4

"Viral claims circulating on social media claim billionaire philanthropist Bill Gates has traveled to Jeffrey Epstein’s island multiple times. While Gates and Epstein had met in the past, this claim, based on flight logs recently subpoenaed, is untrue. "
 
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Captain_Swoop said:
Savile was a big 'doer of good deeds' and a big charity fundraiser.
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Er, you omitted to mention Jimmy Savile managed to reach the age of 84, two days shy of his 85th birthday without once ever having his collar felt for the child abuse (of really young children) with an estimate of 484 victims. At least.

Has it ever occurred to you his 'charitable good works' gave him free access to children's hospital wards?
 
As for Bill Clinton, wikileaks revealed a document purportedly showing Clinton ordering US$65,000 worth of 'pizza'.

Now I don't know about you but IMV it is in the public interest to understand how 'pizza' costs US$65,000.
 
I can't find anything to confirm Epsteins contributions to the Gates Foundation. Do you have a source?
 
Vixen said:
As for Bill Clinton, wikileaks revealed a document purportedly showing Clinton ordering US$65,000 worth of 'pizza'.

Now I don't know about you but IMV it is in the public interest to understand how 'pizza' costs US$65,000.
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That 65K figure seems to spring up here and there:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-65000-hot-dogs/

Seems like the conspiracy pushers like to keep to the same number.
 
Vixen said:
As for Bill Clinton, wikileaks revealed a document purportedly showing Clinton ordering US$65,000 worth of 'pizza'.

Now I don't know about you but IMV it is in the public interest to understand how 'pizza' costs US$65,000.
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Maybe the $65,000 was a typo for $65. Purportedly.

And you could also ask why President Trump spent $5,500 on a Fast Food Feast. It's OK. I have an answer for that:

 
Vixen said:
Er, you omitted to mention Jimmy Savile managed to reach the age of 84, two days shy of his 85th birthday without once ever having his collar felt for the child abuse (of really young children) with an estimate of 484 victims. At least.

Has it ever occurred to you his 'charitable good works' gave him free access to children's hospital wards?
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The latter was more to do with the utter spinelessness of certain NHS managers, as well as public attitudes.

My sister trained as a nurse at Leeds General Infirmary (LGI) in the late '70s/early '80s, then worked there for several years.

Many attempts were made by nursing staff to have Savile barred from wards, as he obstructed clinical work, was very handsy with junior staff and generally a pain, My sister DID throw him off one time, but was hauled over the coals by management, who liked the "publicity" of having Savile around.

Many instances of sexual harassment of female staff were reported, but dismissed by management.

Many patients liked having him visit wards, as he was a well-known figure.

If challenged, he would make threats of violence, point out that he knew violent people, point out that he socialised with many senior police officers and lawyers (I know from several Leeds police officers of that era that they were pretty much told to leave alone).

His behaviour in other public places was often challenged or reported by staff (my wife did so at a major hotel near Newcastle), but again craven managers would do nothing, fearing threats or bad publicity.

A couple of mates worked at Broadmoor during Savile's "reign" there tell similar stories off ward staff wanting shot of him, but being shut up by management...

A lot of folk wanted him nowhere near hospitals, patients and all the rest, but were over-ruled for the sake of publicity and public opinion and the rest.

We don't need any massive conspiracy, Satanic or otherwise.

As for Chucky Windsor: the man is a fool, lacking intelligence, judgement, sense, whose word should not be taken seriously on anything.
 
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