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Ghislaine Maxwell

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She has been charged with grooming and so on, and applies for bail friday.
A good starting point for the thread is to speculate whether she will be successful.
 
Samson said:
She has been charged with grooming and so on, and applies for bail friday.
A good starting point for the thread is to speculate whether she will be successful.
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I'm betting no. It's being discussed in the Epstein thread that she's independently wealthy, has multiple passports, and access to housing and other resources in several different countries. It's hard to imagine them being able to set a bail high enough to allow her to go free pending trial, while still ensuring she's not a flight risk. I figure the judge is going to look at her net worth and say, "you know what? I think it's best you just sit in jail until a jury figures out what to do with you."
 
theprestige said:
I'm betting no. It's being discussed in the Epstein thread that she's independently wealthy, has multiple passports, and access to housing and other resources in several different countries. It's hard to imagine them being able to set a bail high enough to allow her to go free pending trial, while still ensuring she's not a flight risk. I figure the judge is going to look at her net worth and say, "you know what? I think it's best you just sit in jail until a jury figures out what to do with you."
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Maybe Dominique Strauss Kahn is a vague parallel, bailed to a local tenement block under strict conditions.
 
theprestige said:
I'm betting no. It's being discussed in the Epstein thread that she's independently wealthy, has multiple passports, and access to housing and other resources in several different countries. It's hard to imagine them being able to set a bail high enough to allow her to go free pending trial, while still ensuring she's not a flight risk. I figure the judge is going to look at her net worth and say, "you know what? I think it's best you just sit in jail until a jury figures out what to do with you."
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Good thing they decided to play it safe with Epstein and keep him in custody, or who knows what might have happened.

Incidentally, do we know what she's been doing since Epstein died? The conspiracy theorist in me wondered if an end game was being agreed behind the scenes. Embarrassing for her to drop dead, embarrassing for her to talk, embarrassing for her to walk free.

Hey, anybody want to bet she accuses Trump of something a week before the election?
 
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I have no idea how these things work, but if she's not a flight risk, then the concept of flight risk has no meaning to me. Wealthy socialite with powerful connections, has been living in hiding (right?) for almost a year.

Last year, Carlos Ghosn managed to get smuggled out of Japan while on bail. It seems way too risky to let her out.
 
angrysoba said:
I have no idea how these things work, but if she's not a flight risk, then the concept of flight risk has no meaning to me. Wealthy socialite with powerful connections, has been living in hiding (right?) for almost a year.

Last year, Carlos Ghosn managed to get smuggled out of Japan while on bail. It seems way too risky to let her out.
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Now that I'm thinking a little bit more about the risks of her exposing everything, I'm wondering if her making bail is *more* likely. She's got to have a few friends in high places who would absolutely prefer that she pull an Assange rather than show up for questioning and trial.

ETA: Which now makes me idly curious about how it took the FBI a year to track her down. Was it all just the time it took to do the legwork? Or was someone somewhere at the Bureau slow-playing the investigation at the behest of her associates?
 
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"I'm here to see Ghislaine Maxwell. I'm her sister Barbara."

:-)
 
theprestige said:
Now that I'm thinking a little bit more about the risks of her exposing everything, I'm wondering if her making bail is *more* likely. She's got to have a few friends in high places who would absolutely prefer that she pull an Assange rather than show up for questioning and trial.

ETA: Which now makes me idly curious about how it took the FBI a year to track her down. Was it all just the time it took to do the legwork? Or was someone somewhere at the Bureau slow-playing the investigation at the behest of her associates?
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I have no idea.
 
theprestige said:
Now that I'm thinking a little bit more about the risks of her exposing everything, I'm wondering if her making bail is *more* likely. She's got to have a few friends in high places who would absolutely prefer that she pull an Assange rather than show up for questioning and trial.

ETA: Which now makes me idly curious about how it took the FBI a year to track her down. Was it all just the time it took to do the legwork? Or was someone somewhere at the Bureau slow-playing the investigation at the behest of her associates?
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The FBI has said they were watching her for months. Maybe they were talking to other witnesses to build a stronger case?

And if she was going to pull an Assange, she had plenty of opportunity to do that. Millions of dollars, three passports, friends around the world? Maybe she didn't take off because she thought she couldn't be touched.
 
Bob001 said:
The FBI has said they were watching her for months. Maybe they were talking to other witnesses to build a stronger case?

And if she was going to pull an Assange, she had plenty of opportunity to do that. Millions of dollars, three passports, friends around the world? Maybe she didn't take off because she thought she couldn't be touched.
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That would make sense given that she probably believed she had complete immunity from prosecution from Epstein's 2008 prosecution, and she may also assume that statute of limitations came into it.

Now that she has been arrested, she might not be as confident of that anymore and poses more of a flight risk now than she was.
 
angrysoba said:
That would make sense given that she probably believed she had complete immunity from prosecution from Epstein's 2008 prosecution, and she may also assume that statute of limitations came into it.

Now that she has been arrested, she might not be as confident of that anymore and poses more of a flight risk now than she was.
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No statute of limitations in the USA for sex trafficking.

She might argue she's immune - double jeopardy and all that - as Acosta did indemnify all of Epstein's conspirators when Epstein received the get out of jail card in Florida.
 
Matthew Best said:
I dont see why. If it’s too dangerous for her to spend time in jail because she might catch COVID, then it would be too dangerous for anybody and nobody would ever be remanded into custody. But that’s obviously not happening.
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I think she claims she's already got it.
 
Matthew Best said:
I don’t think this is actually true. There’s been no official word that she tested positive for coronavirus.
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There's also a long history of people who get arrested and then suddenly find themselves not feeling well... there was that guy from Guinness who got Alzheimers and then recovered later, Rupert Murdoch suddenly turned dotty before that inquest about phone hacking, Harvey Weinstein mysteriously lost the use of his legs, etc...*



*oh and Jeffrey Epstein accidentally, brutally strangled himself from behind. That's what you wanna hear isn't it, tinfoilers!!!!1!
 
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