Cont: The all-new "US Politics and coronavirus" thread pt. 2

[Segnosaur]

Kimberly Guilfoyle has tested positive. DJTJ is in isolation.



I'm all broken up over this.

Sadly, Trump Jr tested negative but he is in isolation as a precaution.

And unfortunately she had not had contact with stubby Mcbonespurs for a while.

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[carlitos]

I know that it’s tone trolling or whatever, and I promise to only say it this one time. Can we please not wish that anyone, anywhere gets a potentially deadly virus? If nothing else, they aid on the spread that may get someone that you don’t want to get sick.

 

[eerok]

I know that it’s tone trolling or whatever, and I promise to only say it this one time. Can we please not wish that anyone, anywhere gets a potentially deadly virus? If nothing else, they aid on the spread that may get someone that you don’t want to get sick.

I think that's a good idea.

 

[Horatius]

I know that it’s tone trolling or whatever, and I promise to only say it this one time. Can we please not wish that anyone, anywhere gets a potentially deadly virus? If nothing else, they aid on the spread that may get someone that you don’t want to get sick.

Nope, sorry, can't do that. These people have made it clear they are either unable or unwilling to learn from the misfortune of others, and start acting as needed to fix this mess. At this point, a full-force bitch-slap from reality is the only thing that could possibly make them open their ******* eyes.

These people went out of their way to become the leaders of the United States, and when they were finally called on to actually lead, they ****** off and didn't even try. They need to have their folly rubbed in their faces, and getting sick with COVID is just about the only way to actually do that.

 

[newyorkguy]

NBC News and other sources are reporting the trump White House will be rolling out a new message for Americans next week about coronavirus. Basically it sounds like, don't worry so much.

After several months of mixed messages on the coronavirus pandemic, the White House is settling on a new one: Learn to live with it...At the crux of the message, officials said, is a recognition by the White House that the virus is not going away any time soon — and will be around through the November election.

As a result, President Donald Trump's top advisers plan to argue, the country must figure out how to press forward despite it. Therapeutic drugs will be showcased as a key component for doing that and the White House will increasingly emphasize the relatively low risk most Americans have of dying from the virus, officials said. NBC News report

 

[Resume]

NBC News and other sources are reporting the trump White House will be rolling out a new message for Americans next week about coronavirus. Basically it sounds like, don't worry so much.

Oh look, it's the "We ain't doin' jack ****" plan.

What a leader!

 

[acbytesla]

Here is a Trump supporter explaining to the Grim Reaper how the Coronavirus made it to the US.

 

[Meadmaker]

Here is a Trump supporter explaining to the Grim Reaper how the Coronavirus made it to the US.

I think it's kind of cool that someone wore a Grim Reaper outfit to a Florida beach.

It's hard to follow the stats on this darned virus. I have a page provided by Bing bookmarked as my go to "How many cases were there yesterday" page and today for July 4, they showed 133,000 new cases. I can only assume that's a data anomaly, and not an actual number of new cases.

In other news, i always follow the comparative number of cases between states to see how my neighborhood, Michigan, is doing. North Carolina has pulled to within 1,000 new cases, and should pass us if present trends continue in 1-3 days.

Meanwhile, a few days back I noted that we weren't seeing the horror stories about ventilator shortages and overworked health care workers that we saw in New York at the peek of the pandemic there. As people predicted, today, I saw a few such stories out of Texas.

Politically, all I can say about Trump's new campaign strategy is that I am glad to see him running on his record. People should very much judge him on his success or failure handling this crisis. It has been a real test of his leadership, and I hope people give an honest assessment of how he's doing.

 

[Meadmaker]

From an NYT article today:

Like New York City in March, the Houston hospitals are experiencing a steep rise in caseloads that is filling their beds, stretching their staffing, creating a backlog in testing and limiting the availability of other medical services. Attempts to buy more supplies — including certain protective gear, vital-sign monitors and testing components — are frustrated by weeks of delays, according to hospital leaders.

How disgusting is this? No other nation has experience this kind of resurgence. Even more unforgivable, Donald Trump imposed his travel ban at the end of January, so, obviously, he knew this coronavirus thing was going to be a big deal. Five months later, hospitals are scrambling for PPE.

Are we great again yet?

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

From an NYT article today:

How disgusting is this? No other nation has experience this kind of resurgence. Even more unforgivable, Donald Trump imposed his travel ban at the end of January, so, obviously, he knew this coronavirus thing was going to be a big deal. Five months later, hospitals are scrambling for PPE.

Are we great again yet?

Trump and his followers think they can just ignore it. People only getting mild cases,

It was only a matter of time, a couple weeks, the case numbers rise, the hospitals begin to fill up, the increase in the death rate follows.

They're actually claiming since the death rate hasn't risen, all is well. Another week and they'll have to change the talking points memos.

Good luck with that.

 

[Aridas]

Oh look, it's the "We ain't doin' jack ****" plan.

What a leader!

A.K.A. the plan that Trump's been strongly favoring all along.

From an NYT article today:



How disgusting is this? No other nation has experience this kind of resurgence. Even more unforgivable, Donald Trump imposed his travel ban at the end of January, so, obviously, he knew this coronavirus thing was going to be a big deal. Five months later, hospitals are scrambling for PPE.

Are we great again yet?

...If Trump was normal in the head, that "obviously" might follow. Trump isn't. Trump almost certainly did it as just another "Look at how tough I am on China" thing, even though it was weak as crap, given that the major airlines had already stopped flights.

Trump might have been trying to wish it away with the power of positive thinking, of course?

 

[smartcooky]

Here is a Trump supporter explaining to the Grim Reaper how the Coronavirus made it to the US.

There really, truly, IS NO CURE FOR STUPID!!

 

[smartcooky]

Trump and his followers think they can just ignore it. People only getting mild cases,

It was only a matter of time, a couple weeks, the case numbers rise, the hospitals begin to fill up, the increase in the death rate follows.

They're actually claiming since the death rate hasn't risen, all is well. Another week and they'll have to change the talking points memos.

Good luck with that.

Our government didn't take us completely off restrictions until we had zero new cases for over two weeks (it was actually 18 days). Since then, we have had zero new cases in the general community. The few isolated new cases we have are all returning New Zealanders who presented with the disease during managed isolation or quarantine.

The result is for a population for 5 million, a total of just over 1500 cases, and 22 deaths. This is what it takes to beat this thing.

- The government listening to the scientists and following their instructions to the letter.
- Following your government's instructions.
- Working together with the other members of your community.

 

[Safe-Keeper]

...If Trump was normal in the head, that "obviously" might follow. Trump isn't. Trump almost certainly did it as just another "Look at how tough I am on China" thing, even though it was weak as crap, given that the major airlines had already stopped flights.

Also he had to do something so that his little supporters could sit there and claim "he did more against the virus than anyone else in the world!".

 

[newyorkguy]

...I always follow the comparative number of cases between states to see how my neighborhood, Michigan, is doing. North Carolina has pulled to within 1,000 new cases, and should pass us if present trends continue in 1-3 days...

Assessing how your state is doing based on total cases can be misleading, can't it? I'm sure my state, New York, is still number one among total cases but we're way down on the list when it comes to new cases or trending. In my neighborhood, positive results from testing in Bronx County have fallen from over 1,000 a day in April to under one hundred by June. The positive rate for daily testing has gone from a high of over 20% to about 1%. That tells me we're doing an effective job in reducing the rate of infection. Looking at total case numbers doesn't tell me that.

Looking at Michigan and North Carolina daily new case charts shows the disease has trended way down in Michigan but remains on a steady rise in North Carolina. On Friday North Carolina reported roughly four times the number of new cases as did Michigan. I would say Michigan has done a pretty good job whereas North Carolina has a problem. Link to Google/Wiki tracker

The one trend that would bear watching in Michigan is the uptick in new cases the state has been seeing since late June. July 4th saw almost twice as many new cases reported as June 29th. It looks like Michigan bottomed out in mid-June but since then is seeing an upward trend. Since Michigan is one of the states where there has been organized resistance to safety measures that rise is a bit concerning.

 

[Meadmaker]

Assessing how your state is doing based on total cases can be misleading, can't it?

Agreed. I'm noting that North Carolina is growing faster than Michigan, but the rise in Michigan is of great concern.

Although there has been organized resistance here in Michigan, that's just some high profile yahoos. I think that in general we are doing pretty good, and our governor deserves a lot of the credit for that. Sure the measures were not universally acclaimed, but we locked down quick and stayed locked down, and we went from number 2 in the country down to, 11 or 12.

Like almost everywhere, we have an uptick, but not as bad as those states which ignored the threat and opened up pretty far. I find the uptick disturbing, and we don't have nearly enough mask use compliance for my tastes, but we aren't doing too bad. If you go into a store, most people are masked.

We'll see. There's plenty of idiocy here in Michigan, but the results will tell the tale.

 

[newyorkguy]

This story I'm quoting is from a week ago though I learned of it this morning, as apparently this is still going on. There was a story about this scam in this morning's edition of a local news bulletin I subscribe to. Some scam artists are selling boxes of cards that supposedly exempt the bearer from having to wear a face mask in public or in stores because doing so "poses a mental and/or physical risk to me." From an NPR story:

A recently issued alert by the [U.S. Justice] department is urging the public not to heed information printed on the fraudulent cards, which purport to carry the authority of the "Freedom to Breathe Agency," which is neither a federal nor a state agency. NPR link

 

[Mader Levap]

Ah, murica. Where using mask is political issue, not medical advice.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

Ah, murica. Where using mask is political issue, not medical advice.

If the Democrats are for it, it must be bad for you.

 

[Resume]

99% of coronavirius cases are totally harmless.

No, they're not.