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Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 23

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dudalb said:
TRump pretending that the Covid pandemic does not exist is something I would not have beleived a POTUS was capable of .
Fact is we are losing, and soon Corona virus will be calling the shots.
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No, C19 is just not that lethal (overall). But the next one easily could be. Will we learn the right lessons from this one? Not during this administration I suspect.
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Jim_MDP said:
No, C19 is just not that lethal (overall). But the next one easily could be. Will we learn the right lessons from this one? Not during this administration I suspect.
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That's the myth people who think only 70 & 80 yr olds are dying believes.

As coronavirus spreads to people under 40, it's making them sicker — and for longer — than once thought

Strokes, other blood clotting disorders, the ravages it does to your body to be on a ventilator for a month even if you do survive, the deaths of people who would normally have gone to the hospital but put it off over fear of C19, permanent lung damage, ... and more.
 
Lurch said:
'Cause we wouldn't want to address why schools are failing and, you know, do something about it, would we?
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Is it worth poking at a bit of history? The "school choice" push really took off in Virginia... in response to the ruling that they were required to desegregate their schools - as a workaround means to keep school segregation alive and well. Also, while there certainly are good charter schools, charter schools are be disturbingly likely to be fraudulent. To poke just a little at that...

New Report: Charter Fraud And Waste Worse Than We Thought

Last March, the Network for Public Education released a report showing that the federal government has lost a billion dollars to charter school waste and fraud. But the organization had not stopped sifting through the data. Their follow-up report, “Still Asleep At The Wheel: How the Federal Charter Schools Program Results in as Pileup of Fraud ands Waste,” reveals that the situation is even worse than shown in the first report, while laying out more state by state details. Particularly striking—the vast amount of money that has been wasted on ghost schools that never served.
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Skeptic Ginger said:
That's the myth people who think only 70 & 80 yr olds are dying believes.



As coronavirus spreads to people under 40, it's making them sicker — and for longer — than once thought



Strokes, other blood clotting disorders, the ravages it does to your body to be on a ventilator for a month even if you do survive, the deaths of people who would normally have gone to the hospital but put it off over fear of C19, permanent lung damage, ... and more.
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Has the overall lethality estimate been raised substantially, or are you just being argumentative?
I don't and never have considered this thing a joke, I just posited that I can imagine a future pandemic with a seriously higher lethality and the easy transmissability of C19... and then we really will be dancing to its tune.
Much of the world really screwed the pooch on this back in February, and we in the US are a shining example of that.
It's gonna hurt, and keep on hurting for another 8-12 months (I think, economicly much longer of course).
But... this too shall pass.

Unless you want to jump on PartSkeptics' "this is God's population reduction apocalypse" bandwagon.
 
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I know better than anyone that my friend Roger Ailes died 3 years ago, just look at what happened to @FoxNews. We all miss Roger!!!

She gets fired by @CNN for giving Crooked Hillary the debate questions, and gets hired by @FoxNews. Where are you Roger Ailes?
 
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AnthemRespect
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Why on earth would FoxNews hire disgraced Donna Brazile after she was caught interfering with an election by tipping off Hillary with the debate questions?
Not the FoxNews it was before.Personally, @OANN is my favorite.

Most Important Video of All-Timeby @realDonaldTrump.
Why the corrupt establishment HAD TO stop Trump from being elected.
Why a coup attempt?
Why this impeachment attempt?
Trump is their Kryptonite.
This video lays it all out.
#TrumpTheEstablishment

(video in link)https://twitter.com/AnthemRespect/status/1178676879483527168
 
Captain_Swoop said:
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I know better than anyone that my friend Roger Ailes died 3 years ago, just look at what happened to @FoxNews. We all miss Roger!!!
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It doesn't have Obama as President to bash, and there's only so much Hillary bashing that it can get away with when she's retired?
 
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LORI HENDRY
@Lrihendry
Trish Regan fired from Fox News for telling the truth
Diamond & Silk fired from Fox News for telling the truth
How many more conservatives will they delete before we wake up.
Meanwhile they hire liar, cheater, traitor Donna Brazile.
 
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I will Veto the Defense Authorization Bill if the Elizabeth “Pocahontas” Warren (of all people!) Amendment, which will lead to the renaming (plus other bad things!) of Fort Bragg, Fort Robert E. Lee, and many other Military Bases from which we won Two World Wars, is in the Bill!
 
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Donald J. Trump
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THE LONE WARRIOR!
 
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At the request of many great Americans who live in the Suburbs, and others, I am studying the AFFH housing regulation that is having a devastating impact on these once thriving Suburban areas. Corrupt Joe Biden wants to make them MUCH WORSE. Not fair to homeowners, I may END!
 
Jim_MDP said:
Has the overall lethality estimate been raised substantially, or are you just being argumentative?
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I think that what Skeptic Ginger was pointing out was, just because you haven't been killed by Coronavirus, it doesn't mean that you're not going to suffer long-term, possibly life-limiting consequences.

It's going to take a long time to build up an accurate picture, not least because it's going to take years until the long-term consequences can be known, but initial indications seem to show that even if "only" 0.5%-1.0% of people die, many times that number are likely to experience serious long-term health issues


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It's gonna hurt, and keep on hurting for another 8-12 months (I think, economicly much longer of course).
But... this too shall pass.
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It depends on whether an effective vaccine can be found and whether a global inoculation programme can be put in place. Even in a country as rich and organised as the US, it could take a couple of years to inoculate enough people to achieve herd immunity - if enough people comply with inoculation requests and don't instead view it as a government plot.

If there isn't an effective vaccine then it could take years to achieve herd immunity. We're 6 months into the pandemic in most developed countries and infection rates are in the mid-single digits. If the current rate of infection is maintained then it'll be 5-10 years until herd immunity is achieved. With effective social distancing it'll take even longer.

The again, there's no guarantee that catching Coronavirus confers long-term immunity so herd immunity may be a pipe-dream.

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Unless you want to jump on PartSkeptics' "this is God's population reduction apocalypse" bandwagon.
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I see no evidence that Skeptic Ginger is doing this.
 
The Don said:
It depends on whether an effective vaccine can be found and whether a global inoculation programme can be put in place. Even in a country as rich and organised as the US, it could take a couple of years to inoculate enough people to achieve herd immunity - if enough people comply with inoculation requests and don't instead view it as a government plot.
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We are *******. We have a president who unwaveringly believes that he is smarter than science. There’s no way he is going to get inoculated. And then we will have between 15 and 30% of Americans refusing inoculation because the president is afraid of it.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
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I will Veto the Defense Authorization Bill if the Elizabeth “Pocahontas” Warren (of all people!) Amendment, which will lead to the renaming (plus other bad things!) of Fort Bragg, Fort Robert E. Lee, and many other Military Bases from which we won Two World Wars, is in the Bill!
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It's amazing how much bigotry he can pack into one tweet.

Smear against native Americans? Check.
Insult a woman? Check.
Support for anti-black Confederate soldiers? Check.

It's likes trifecta of bigotry.

Something should put together a game of trump bingo... Where each square represents a form of racism/sexism.

It will be interesting to see if 1) trump follows through, and 2) whether the GOP goes along or give a veto-proof majority support. After all, they must realize that the whole "Republicans support our troops' myth is at risk... Last thing they need is to see a republican vote against military funding, all in favor of a cause that most voters disagree with.

ETA: is it just me or is there something wrong with the grammar or wording of that text? I mean, I get the meaning... Bigotry is more important than national defence... But the post starts wandering and never completes its argument properly. Such a genius... Can't even stay focused for the length of one tweet.

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Segnosaur said:
It's amazing how much bigotry he can pack into one tweet.

Smear against native Americans? Check.
Insult a woman? Check.
Support for anti-black Confederate soldiers? Check.

It's likes trifecta of bigotry.

Something should put together a game of trump bingo... Where each square represents a form of racism/sexism.

It will be interesting to see if 1) trump follows through, and 2) whether the GOP goes along or give a veto-proof majority support. After all, they must realize that the whole "Republicans support our troops' myth is at risk... Last thing they need is to see a republican vote against military funding, all in favor of a cause that most disagree with.

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In a sane world this would damage his status within the party and among the electorate. The sad truth is that, if anything, it will enhance his status within the GOP and the wider electorate either don't care or are implacably opposed to him.
 
quadraginta said:
Let's see what they write when that "school choice" (:rolleyes:) decision defending religious freedom ends up getting government money sent to private Muslim schools.

That's really gonna go over swell in Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, etc..
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It already happened in Louisiana in 2012. One shocked state legislator actually admitted that she assumed the new policy only applied to Christian schools, "the Founders' religion".
 
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