PartSkeptic’s Thread for Predictions and Other Matters of Interest

[Hans]

"Bosun, what's our heading?"
"Headache strength 9 on the Gigahertz scale, sah!"
"Ah, vaguely North then."

Sailing master what is our course?

East of the Moon, south of Sun, left in front of Venus and right by the rear of Mars.

 

[Jim_MDP]

Well, for one thing, experts being aware of something doesn't translate into politicians and the public being willing to do something about it. Hell, in the US we're several months into the pandemic with over a million dead and a significant chunk of the population still refuses to take the trivial step of wearing masks in public.



However, there absolutely was preparation. Sorry, my knowledge is mostly US centric, but over here, our president and administration from 2009 through 2016 created a pandemic task force that responded swiftly to assist with potential outbreaks throughout the world. In 2014 our then president said in a speech:



“There may and likely will come a time in which we have both an airborne disease that is deadly. And in order for us to deal with that effectively, we have to put in place an infrastructure—not just here at home, but globally—that allows us to see it quickly, isolate it quickly, respond to it quickly, so that if and when a new strain of flu like the Spanish flu crops up five years from now or a decade from now, we’ve made the investment and we’re further along to be able to catch it.”



That administration prepared a variety of training and preparing material for the incoming administration in 2016 including a training scenario that looks almost exactly like the current outbreak. Which the current administration utterly ignored.



However, several countries WERE well prepared for the outbreak. With fast responses and listening to medical and scientific advice, they minimized cases and deaths. Here's a nice readable article discussing some of them:

https://time.com/5851633/best-global-responses-covid-19/

We don't have a million dead in the US (I think we're up to ~15% of that )... but globaly there are certainly that many. I know it was just a slip of phrasing, I'm just not sure what that sentence was supposed to say. No worries though.

On the transition prep meetings... An account I read months ago on the pandemic scenario part (one of ~five IIRC), of the major Trump admin members present... Betsy DeVoss was openly dismissive and Wilbur Ross actually took a nap. Nice.
Take that with a few grains, but we do know they figuratively tossed the entire packet out soon after.
Yes, the experts have been shouting the warning for twenty years. And just to help everyone get a good nights sleep... this, right now, is the mild version.

 

[varwoche]

Really. Prove it. Why was there no preparation?

VP Al Gore in 1996:

Emerging infectious diseases present one of the most significant health and security challenges facing the global community. Through President Clinton's leadership, we now have the first national policy to deal with this serious international problem.

link

First acknowledge you were wrong and then I'll answer the preparation question.

 

[Cosmic Yak]

Really. Prove it. Why was there no preparation?

The UK was also preparing for another pandemic. The problem was, they thought it would be flu-related. It wasn't that there was no preparation, it was that it was the wrong preparation.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-one-of-best-prepared-for-pandemic

 

[varwoche]

The warnings about pandemic have been persistent and serious. The entities in the know consisted of far, far more than "god" and you, PS.

You probably heard these rumblings -- most everyone did -- but then you blythely incorporated the plot line into your private delusion without even bothering to check readily available facts.

So now you know.

 

[Pixel42]

The warnings about pandemic have been persistent and serious. The entities in the know consisted of far, far more than "god" and you, PS.

You probably heard these rumblings -- most everyone did -- but then you blythely incorporated the plot line into your private delusion without even bothering to check readily available facts.

So now you know.

PartSkeptic does not seem to be claiming that he was the only one who predicted a pandemic, but that he made the specific prediction that it would be "sneaky and have a stealth spread" and that "That is happening".

Despite the vagueness of that prediction, I see nothing about the current pandemic which could be reasonably interpreted as a fulfilment of it.

ETA the complete quote:

I said early on the pandemic would be sneaky and have a stealth spread. That is happening. Did anyone predict that aspect of this pandemic. No. To quote a high-up official "No-one saw this coming". Wrong. I did.

 

[EvilBiker]

PartSkeptic does not seem to be claiming that he was the only one who predicted a pandemic, but that he made the specific prediction that it would be "sneaky and have a stealth spread" and that "That is happening".

Despite the vagueness of that prediction, I see nothing about the current pandemic which could be reasonably interpreted as a fulfilment of it.

ETA the complete quote:

He sure as hell didn't predict that the virus would be sneaky and have a stealth spread. Go look at his first post in this thread, specifically this bit:

What I realized was that a simple pandemic would be contained so it could not achieve a 60% die-off. What had to happen was a silent unnoticed infection that would decrease immune systems so that both pandemics and ordinary illnesses would kill people off. For a while, I thought this might be a combination of a virus and a fungus because my fungal infection was so stealthy and not diagnosed.

But no. When the cell tower was put next door and I (and others) got sick, I realized it was another bit of psychic information. It is the perfect stealth mechanism because not only will the effects not be noticed for decades (like smoking) but it is global in reach, affecting every country, town and city. Particularly big cities. Remember the plagues - big cities!

He was essentially saying that there would be another mechanism (EMF - Tadaaaa!) that would decrease our immunity so "pandemics and ordinary illnesses would kill people off".

So no, he did not predict the sneaky and stealth spreading pandemic we are dealing with today.

 

[Cosmic Yak]

Plus, the death rate from Covid 19, even including associated deaths, such as those already weakened by other pre-existing conditions, and deaths from reduced standards of care in overwhelmed and overworked healthcare centres, is still nothing like 60%.

 

[Cat Not Included]

We don't have a million dead in the US (I think we're up to ~15% of that )... but globaly there are certainly that many. I know it was just a slip of phrasing, I'm just not sure what that sentence was supposed to say. No worries though.

Doh! Quite right. Over a million infected, not dead. Though now its over 2 million. Deaths are at about 129K. Sorry, mixed up my numbers.

 

[abaddon]

Doh! Quite right. Over a million infected, not dead. Though now its over 2 million. Deaths are at about 129K. Sorry, mixed up my numbers.

Don't sweat it. The sea of numbers is challenging.

 

[Pixel42]

So no, he did not predict the sneaky and stealth spreading pandemic we are dealing with today.

Regardless of what the actual prediction was (and I see you're right about that) I was mostly puzzled as to what it was that qualified this pandemic as particularly "sneaky and stealth spreading" in the first place.

 

[PartSkeptic]

He sure as hell didn't predict that the virus would be sneaky and have a stealth spread. Go look at his first post in this thread, specifically this bit:



He was essentially saying that there would be another mechanism (EMF - Tadaaaa!) that would decrease our immunity so "pandemics and ordinary illnesses would kill people off".

So no, he did not predict the sneaky and stealth spreading pandemic we are dealing with today.

You have to go further back. You have to look at other writings of mine also. Until I realized what EMFs are capable of, I thought that a virus would combine with a fungus and spread globally before it was noticed. The fungus I have is slow. 6 to 18 months and slowly causes increasing inflammation and there the cause is attributed to many other problems.

I just learned from another SA activist that WiFi readings in hospitals range from 2,000 to 11,000 uW/Sqm. Many EHS sufferers will tell you that even 1 uW/sqm is harmful.

You are simply nit-picking the details. You have a global pandemic causing a lot of secondary damage, and countries are battling to stop it. The EMFs might be a factor causing deaths in hospitals and no-one questions it.

If Gods message is correct then what we see now is only the start.

 

[PartSkeptic]

Scientifically speaking, his meter is obvious crap. He even admits it gives him nonsensical readings, yet he trusts it. He had symptoms at the same time, and jumped to a conclusion of causation, having applied no rigor or control. That's how science responds.

There he goes again, having dropped the pretense of being a "friend".

What utter rubbish. Claims without a scrap of anything to support them. And nasty as well.

 

[PartSkeptic]

You use "will" a lot. Actually, you've been threatening all sorts of actions against the authorities for a while now, and nada. In fact, you've really done nothing since the end of the case in what, early 2019?

Show us this "evidence" you've got showing the tower being on. No, I'm not talking about your POS meter measurements.

The power company "will" show - again, you come with these pleadings.

I have retained a lawyer and the matters are under way. I have other strategies under way also. SA does not have a "sub judice" law but there are restrictions which I must get more familiar with. Is a Telco prompting you to get me to disclose?

My health is seriously slowing me down. I will go to a Hydro to recover, and also my Jacuzzi should be up and running soon. I am adding the insulation. It is a great help to reduce pain (Jacuzzi invented it for his sons' pain).

 

[PartSkeptic]

From a previous post of yours:



Firstly, your meter is a POS and is useless for absolute measurements, so don't even bother referencing it again. Add to that the fact that you "estimated" the peak means your values are useless anyway. Do you even know the difference between RMS and peak values?? Do you know why Chinese speaker manufacturers can confidently quote peak power values of 1500W for 6W RMS speakers??


I'm currently torn - I would LOVE to get hold of one of these meters to tear it down, but I refuse to pay over $300 to these charlatans.

What makes you say the meter is no good. An opinion without the slightest evidence to fuel suspicion.

Why does a meter have to be accurate to within 0.1%. If I time you speeding using a stop watch and two distance markers who cares that I could be 10 % off when I measure your speed to be 250 kph in a 120 kph zone? You will not doubt avoid this question.


The Telcos hired a company called Alphawave. The engineer who came to do the tests founded EMSS. It was originally part of a Telco but they formed an "independent" company.

Their readings confirmed my readings. Is that good enough for you? I notice that they did not claim the radiation was "safe". They stated it was within recommended ICNIRP guidelines.

Also note that Germany, Russia and Israel have much stricter laws to restrict EMFs, particularly in schools and hospitals.

A person who is severely EHS has retained a legal aid lawyer to sue. He has asked her to provide an "experts report". I spoke to other activists who are also in the beginning stages of legal action. They laughed. Doctors and scientists in SA are not prepared to get involved. They have tried. The only success they had was with international experts willing to commit themselves.

 

[PartSkeptic]

(snip)
Cite a South African legal authority that establishes this rule, please. A trier of fact in any jurisdiction may certainly desire additional evidence to help resolve conflicting evidence. But if none is forthcoming, or if other circumstances apply, the trier of fact simply decides how much weight to give each side. That's what it means to be a trier of fact.

Oh. So one can decide on the basis that one witness is very pretty (or has bigger frontal assets) than the plain Jane. Or that there is a "pay off".

I remember reading this in a plane while on business in the USA. The Wall Street Journal had an article about the corruption in the 11 years Six Flags Adventure Park. Judge after judge ruled against a clear restriction about the environment. And judge after judge got hired by the big law companies for being so "just" in giving them the favorable rulings.

Or as one judge I took to the Concourt said: "I deemed it appropriate", when written reasons were requested. Do you think that is reasonable? Or even justice? In that matter there was no evidence by the other party. Only a verbal submission from the bar. Also not permitted.

The "trier of fact" can be bought because they are appointed (anointed in some cases) by the system (SA being unusually corrupted with a toothless justice system). Do you think they do not have to follow the methods established by case history? Read the SA High Court Rules about applications and evidence. Why do you think they permit oral evidence in certain circumstances?

Every rule has the key exception that the rule can be broken "in the interests of justice". One judge in another case (about to be appealed to the ConCourt) said to me "My ruling in an urgent matter is un-appealable". He ruled that there were no costs and later changed his order to include costs. Really. I should give you guys that case when it is done.

 

[Pixel42]

I have retained a lawyer and the matters are under way.

To do what? As I understand it the tower has been removed, albeit not for the reasons you wanted it removed. What more do you want the Telco to do?

I get the impression you want them to admit the tower was on when you say it was and they say it wasn't, but proving that is going to be problematic to put it mildly. They have official records, you have your word that you measured a very high level. Even if the court accepts your word you would have to show that (a) your meter is accurate and reliable in the range and circumstances in question, (b) you were using and reading it correctly and (c) the source of the reading was the cell tower.

Also bear in mind that the Telco will be able to cite those dozens of blind studies which show that people who claim to suffer from EMS, as you do, cannot tell if the EMF they claim causes their symptoms is on or off in such trials. You may summarily reject those studies because the teams that collected them into metastudies had a member in common, but will the court? It's not like you have a single counter example to show them. Not even an informal, unwitnessed, one. All you have is a few lab studies that suggest there may be damage to tissue in petri dishes at very high levels of EMF, amongst many others which suggest there probably isn't.

 

[Roger Ramjets]

I just learned from another SA activist that WiFi readings in hospitals range from 2,000 to 11,000 uW/Sqm. Many EHS sufferers will tell you that even 1 uW/sqm is harmful.

Many 'EHS sufferers' are full of it.

Studies on EHS individuals

A number of studies have been conducted where EHS individuals were exposed to EMF similar to those that they attributed to the cause of their symptoms. The aim was to elicit symptoms under controlled laboratory conditions.

The majority of studies indicate that EHS individuals cannot detect EMF exposure any more accurately than non-EHS individuals. Well controlled and conducted double-blind studies have shown that symptoms were not correlated with EMF exposure.

It has been suggested that symptoms experienced by some EHS individuals might arise from environmental factors unrelated to EMF. Examples may include “flicker” from fluorescent lights, glare and other visual problems with VDUs, and poor ergonomic design of computer workstations. Other factors that may play a role include poor indoor air quality or stress in the workplace or living environment.

There are also some indications that these symptoms may be due to pre-existing psychiatric conditions as well as stress reactions as a result of worrying about EMF health effects, rather than the EMF exposure itself.

 

[EvilBiker]

Is a Telco prompting you to get me to disclose?

Well, since you obviously have a blind spot re: my previous posts on this subject, I'm not going to bother repeating myself.

Anyway, why would a Telco be interested in your conspiracy theories? Do you really think they are quaking in their boots over a single apparently psychic individual with dubious symptoms who believes there is a link between 5G and COVID?

Good luck with that.

 

[EvilBiker]

What makes you say the meter is no good. An opinion without the slightest evidence to fuel suspicion.

I've explained it before, and won't bother again. It's not worth my time. You're the one banking his whole existence on a cheap measurement device, you deal with it.

Why does a meter have to be accurate to within 0.1%. If I time you speeding using a stop watch and two distance markers who cares that I could be 10 % off when I measure your speed to be 250 kph in a 120 kph zone?

That's a really good analogy to show your measurement flaws. In your above example you have a calibration - the distance markers.

In your case, however, you are timing without distance markers. Get the picture?

You will not doubt avoid this question.

More fool you.

The Telcos hired a company called Alphawave. The engineer who came to do the tests founded EMSS. It was originally part of a Telco but they formed an "independent" company.

I know Alphawave. I met Isak at MeerKAT, and I know Johann from my RF forums. So you think they are biased against you because they used to work for Telcos? I don't know if they will take kindly to slander of that sort. Care to elaborate?

Their readings confirmed my readings. Is that good enough for you? I notice that they did not claim the radiation was "safe". They stated it was within recommended ICNIRP guidelines.

Within recommended ICNIRP guidelines is considered safe. So you are saying that because they did not say the radiation was "safe", they are implying that it's not? Guilt by omission? Jay is right on the money about you putting words into other people's mouths.

You say there readings confirmed yours, without the slightest shred of proof. I could ask Johann, though. If you could please supply a copy of your readings, and measurement techniques.

Also note that Germany, Russia and Israel have much stricter laws to restrict EMFs, particularly in schools and hospitals.

What has this got to do with anything?

A person who is severely EHS has retained a legal aid lawyer to sue. He has asked her to provide an "experts report". I spoke to other activists who are also in the beginning stages of legal action. They laughed. Doctors and scientists in SA are not prepared to get involved. They have tried. The only success they had was with international experts willing to commit themselves.

I posit they're not prepared to get involved with theories that are clearly not scientific.