Moderated "So I hear you're a transphobe now!": Twitter closes Graham Linehan's account

[TragicMonkey]

If they don't like the person, yes. Twitter has banned countless feminists and gender-critical accounts for the most minor infringements or even for nothing at all. They hide behind generalities and some people have reported not being able to find out the reason for a ban at all.

Twitter is run by a group of people who include the wokest of the woke. Others have documented this. Fellow-travellers have virtual carte blanche to say what they like and if suspended they return in a day or two. Anyone who doesn't subscribe to the TWAW dogma is in danger of being banned at any time. Trans activists openly discuss on Twitter itself who they've succeeded in banning and suggest and gather support for reporting campaigns against their next victim. Groups of them with multiple accounts then trawl the victim's old tweets for something that can be represented as "hate speech" (in one case it was a quote from Hansard), urge each other to report selected tweets en masse, and hey presto, another ban.

As much as I hate to bring that bastard into every thread, there's a really notable example of a person who is definitely not "woke" or anything close to it, who is Twitter's most famous user. I think his example makes nonsense of your martyrdom complex here.

 

[TragicMonkey]

Exactly, when old people start complaining about modern society, a thing unprecedented in recorded history, you know things are going badly wrong!

The funny part is what each generation chooses to complain about once they get old, and their total lack of self-awareness when they do it.

My great-grandfather complained about the Jews and Catholics.

My grandfather married a Catholic and thought anti-Semitism was idiotic. But he complained of "the blacks".

My mother thinks racism is idiotic. But she complains of the gays.

I just wonder which group I'll be stupidly complaining of when I get old. I'm only in my forties so there's still time for AI to be invented, then perhaps I'll be muttering about robots in my old age. "OMG, you said 'robots'?! That's a slur! It's 'androids'! I'm SO embarrassed by you, Uncle Monkey!"

 

[Arcade22]

Yes. Let's get rid of anyone you disagree with. That's the way to foster open communication......

It's not what he said, it's who he said it to and why. Apparently even "groomers" can behave themselves while this guy can't even-though he has been sanctioned for it in the past.

 

[lionking]

As much as I hate to bring that bastard into every thread, there's a really notable example of a person who is definitely not "woke" or anything close to it, who is Twitter's most famous user. I think his example makes nonsense of your martyrdom complex here.

Please explain why Trump gets a pass and Linehan doesn’t.

 

[Guybrush Threepwood]

As much as I hate to bring that bastard into every thread, there's a really notable example of a person who is definitely not "woke" or anything close to it, who is Twitter's most famous user. I think his example makes nonsense of your martyrdom complex here.

I think he's a special case, banning him would be very tricky. However the general point is true. Katie Hopkins was churning out bile on twitter until last week, David Vance and Gemma O'Doherty (probably unknown outside Ireland, but a pair of racist, homophobic Trump fans) are still going strong. The idea that twitter is some hot bed of lefty wokedom is a bit silly.

I think Graham should post here, his bleating on Mumsnet about why he was banned from Twitter would fit right in in forum management feedback.

 

[Guybrush Threepwood]

Please explain why Trump gets a pass and Linehan doesn’t.

Trump is President of the USA. Linehan is a has-been sitcom writer.

 

[lionking]

I think he's a special case, banning him would be very tricky. However the general point is true. Katie Hopkins was churning out bile on twitter until last week, David Vance and Gemma O'Doherty (probably unknown outside Ireland, but a pair of racist, homophobic Trump fans) are still going strong. The idea that twitter is some hot bed of lefty wokedom is a bit silly.

I think Graham should post here, his bleating on Mumsnet about why he was banned from Twitter would fit right in in forum management feedback.

Okay, so why was Linehan banned? And please don’t say he disobeyed his membership agreement.

 

[lionking]

Trump is President of the USA. Linehan is a has-been sitcom writer.

Thank you for proving my point.

Twitter is a joke.

 

[TragicMonkey]

Please explain why Trump gets a pass and Linehan doesn’t.

Because Twitter isn't run by a cabal of "woke" persons deadset on persecuting everyone they disagree with.

 

[lionking]

Because Twitter isn't run by a cabal of "woke" persons deadset on persecuting everyone they disagree with.

Never mind. Having a dissenting opinion on threads like this is pointless....

 

[TragicMonkey]

So why, in your own words, was a Linehan banned?

Gosh, I didn't realize that one had to know the cause of something before one could determine what wasn't the cause. We don't know where dark matter is hiding, so I guess the cause of that is possibly Katy Perry's witchcraft alliance with a flamingo demon. You can't prove me wrong until you come up with the correct answer!

eta: Ha, you realized how silly that was, didn't you, and changed it!

 

[Guybrush Threepwood]

Okay, so why was Linehan banned? And please don’t say he disobeyed his membership agreement.

This is what Graham said

Recently, I keep being locked out of my account and forced to delete tweets to get back in. The latest tactic by trans rights activists is to run a search for any time I've used the word 'groomer', a phrase Twitter recently decided was Not Allowed.

This was not a violation of Twitter's ToS at the time I used the phrase, and I have been careful to avoid it since. I still use the word 'grooming' in various permutations because I believe that gender ideology is a form of societal grooming.

I have no more access to Twitter's decision making process than he does, but I suspect his interpretation of using 'grooming' but totally not saying 'groomer' differed significantly from Twitter's interpretation.

If you post anywhere on line, and the owner of where you post says 'Please stop posting that' and you continue posting it, whatever 'it' is you will probably get banned.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Mumsnet - Prosecco Stormfront.

 

[lionking]

Gosh, I didn't realize that one had to know the cause of something before one could determine what wasn't the cause. We don't know where dark matter is hiding, so I guess the cause of that is possibly Katy Perry's witchcraft alliance with a flamingo demon. You can't prove me wrong until you come up with the correct answer!

eta: Ha, you realized how silly that was, didn't you, and changed it!

No, not silly. Pointless in the prevailing hive mind of this forum. Where long standing and brilliant members like Rolfe and others are dismissed for not toeing the line.

Twitter is a joke and much of this forum is becoming so. Expressing views expressing concern or discomfort about transgender issues are jumped on from a great height. Sadly, you have become one of the ringleaders in this.

 

[TragicMonkey]

No, not silly. Pointless in the prevailing hive mind of this forum. Where long standing and brilliant members like Rolfe and others are dismissed for not toeing the line.

Mmmm hmmm. Twitter and ISF are cruelly persecuting your free speech. Except that, traditionally, in order to be a martyr you actually have to undergo the martyrdom. I don't see your posts and threads being deleted. On the contrary, the thread you allude to is huge and growing. You can hardly claim you're being silenced if your remarks take up three whole threads to date.

Twitter is a joke and much of this forum is becoming so. Expressing views expressing concern or discomfort about transgender issues are jumped on from a great height. Sadly, you have become one of the ringleaders in this.

Really? You think people follow me? Browsing that thread I seem to be in a very small minority, with more people disagreeing with me than agreeing. Perhaps you place too much importance on me because I am a stylish celebrity. I do not wield influence and power proportionate to my personal charm, though.

My own theory is that people who espouse what they deep down know to be an untenable position seek refuge in a persecution complex. That way they have an external excuse for why they can't make headway, and subconsciously assuage their guilt for holding an unpleasant viewpoint with the hope they won't actually succeed in what they think they want to accomplish. But of course that's just my own personal speculation.

 

[uke2se]

No, not silly. Pointless in the prevailing hive mind of this forum. Where long standing and brilliant members like Rolfe and others are dismissed for not toeing the line.

Twitter is a joke and much of this forum is becoming so. Expressing views expressing concern or discomfort about transgender issues are jumped on from a great height. Sadly, you have become one of the ringleaders in this.

Trolling on twitter by making hateful remarks isn't "expressing concern or discomfort". Linehan wanted to be a dick, and he got punished for it.

 

[Manger Douse]

Because Twitter isn't run by a cabal of "woke" persons deadset on persecuting everyone they disagree with.

Yet Twitter banned (and has since re-instated) an account that merely copied what Trump wrote

 

[TragicMonkey]

Yet Twitter banned (and has since re-instated) an account that merely copied what Trump wrote

Which again demonstrates they're not a cabal of "woke" people out to persecute dissenters.

 

[Manger Douse]

Which again demonstrates they're not a cabal of "woke" people out to persecute dissenters.

You're the one who brought up Trumps tweets to make the claim that Twitter isn't run be a cabal of the woke - do you accept that Trump is a special case now?

 

[TragicMonkey]

You're the one who brought up Trumps tweets to make the claim that Twitter isn't run be a cabal of the woke - do you accept that Trump is a special case now?

No. As was pointed out above there are plenty of others Tweeting things such a cabal would be suppressing if they existed. Even in your own example, they allow another account to post exactly what Trump does--if he were the one very special exemption to their "woke" crusade they'd have kept the duplicate banned.