PartSkeptic’s Thread for Predictions and Other Matters of Interest

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We seem to have got so far off topic that I thought I’d reread the OP to remind myself of what was the bleedin’ topic.
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... the effects not be noticed for decades (like smoking) but it is global in reach, ...
New leaders with justice and fairness will hopefully emerge. Otherwise there will be dystopia as seen in most sci-fi movies of the future.

How's that for a prediction.
In short, within 20 or 30 years there will be a global purge - unless governments see it coming and prevent it.

It is rather amusing that one of the most pointless and content-free posts on this forum generated so many response to this absurdity.
 
We seem to have got so far off topic that I thought I’d reread the OP to remind myself of what was the bleedin’ topic.
In short, within 20 or 30 years there will be a global purge - unless governments see it coming and prevent it.

It is rather amusing that one of the most pointless and content-free posts on this forum generated so many response to this absurdity.


Cutting and pasting to get an absurd rephrasing of my prediction is silly.

The prediction (from 2011) was that there would be a major pandemic fairly soon to fix over-population. I then had to figure out why I was being told this. The answer was that I had to learn more so that I could warn the sector of the population that would understand the ramifications. You are not in that sector.

How long will you be amused when the second wave (actually a tsunami) arrives in the next year or so? Don't hold me to time frames. I am guessing based on God's message to reduce population.
 
For the record, I am posting because I got an unexpected(?) result yesterday.

I took two pain tablets at 8 am. I decided not to go to the tower house. I wanted a pain free day. At 6pm I heard my wife on her cell phone to her sister. They have long talks so I figured she would be using her modem. She was. It was on the table. I decided to take part in the conversation. Their dog had eaten the contents of the worm-tea composter. It had convulsions. It began messing the carpet. When the man tried to move the dog, it bit him hard. The sisters daughter is a vet and gave advice. Tetanus shot, antibiotics and pain tablets. The guys is used to pain and did not take the pain meds. Then the pain hit, and he regretted not taking the advice.

I tell you the story so you realize why I wanted to take part. I decide to monitor when the pain from the modem would hit me. Every so often I would go to internal check mode. At 6:15pm I felt nothing. That bothered me so I went to get the meter. The last time measured the modem it was close to maximum 1,999 uW/sqm pulse even at the other end of the house. Now it was less than 10 until I got close to the modem. It only went to 80 uW/sqm pulse a meter away and pointing directly at the modem. Strange. No wonder I did not feel anything.

I moved the modem to the kitchen corner where it was the first time. Still no change. I did some other checks but the radiation was typical of some other WiFi readings I have taken. Drops very low outside the room.

But then it suddenly jumped up to maximum output and the meter went off scale. Even in the passage. The audio was screaming. The radiation on the other side of the house was high. I took the modem back to the desk where it first was but still high. I now realized that I had spent between 5 and 10 minutes in this high radiation and was getting a number of symptoms. Dizziness and slight confusion. Slight headache. I went to the other side of the house and put my head shield on. Another 5 minutes and my shoulders started to ache. Then the modem was off. 35 minutes in all.

The headache and the should pain grew for another 15 minutes before peaking and slowly subsiding. By 8 pm I was okay.

Anyone have any guesses as to what happened? I do - but do not want to muddy the responses.

ETA: I reckon God is guiding the testing to give more information about the variables involved.
 
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See Riverworld by Philip José Farmer.
I recognise the name but I don't think I've read anything by him beyond the odd short story. I'll put him on my list to check out.

It's now six weeks since PartSkeptic agreed to do a simple blind test of his claim to be able to tell whether or not the wifi is switched on from his physical symptoms. This is the last weekly reminder I will post as it's clear he no longer has any intention of putting his unsupported claims to any kind of objective test, if indeed he ever did.
 
For the record, I am posting because I got an unexpected(?) result yesterday.

[another worthless anecdote snipped]

Anyone have any guesses as to what happened? I do - but do not want to muddy the responses.
What does it matter?

If you want to find out whether the strength of the signal affects the severity of your symptoms then you need to include that in the protocol of your blind test. Get your wife to monitor the reading whenever the wifi is switched on and record the maximum level it reached as well as the on/off status in her sealed envelope, and record the severity of your symptoms as well as when you think the wifi was on or off in yours. Then, when you eventually open the two sets of envelopes and compare what you each recorded after the final trial, you will have some useful data. Until then you've got bupkis.
 
Radio signals have been "pulsed" since the days of Marconi. All that's changed is the power and the frequency at which they're modulated. The power has decreased and the frequency has increased. The frequency would have to increase dramatically (i.e., past the visible spectrum) before it would be able to cause any of the effects PartSkeptic wants to talk about.



Literally as inconsequential as whether the on-off switch on your modem is red or green. These just describe different ways of arranging the signal on the carriers to improve throughput or detect errors. If you didn't know which modulation method was being used, it would just look like the same squiggly pulses in each case. Not even an effect, much less a confounding effect.

The advocates, however, who PartSkeptic seems to believe are talented scientists, seem to regard these as embodying some sort of kiss-of-death tattoo in the radio band.


With regard to your previous post, I see nothing of help. You are trying hard to impress your fans. You are not helping the debate.

With regard to this post, it clearly shows that your understanding is superficial to say the least.

The first radio signals may have been "pulsed" (as in switched on and off) to transmit Morse code.

Once modulation of a carrier signal enabled better data transmission, the carrier was first amplitude modulated. It was not pulsed.

When frequency modulation came in, the noise was reduced, but the modulation was still sinusoidal and not pulsed. The output power was steady.

Then digital came in with computers and one and zero were transmitted. But the power was not pulsed because they used frequency shifting.

The digital age meant that the ones and zeros could be assembled into packets with check sums and header and footers. The analog voice was broken into digital steps with a number bits assigned to the various levels. So then voice was A to D - transmit - and D to A. Compression techniques were then needed for the lows and the highs. But still no pulsing.

The early cell signals were not pulsed. They were typical frequency modulated radio signals and were given a specific channel to operate on.

When cell sites became more sophisticated it was necessary that one antenna handle multiple calls. Hence time division multiplexing came in where one antenna hosted 8 calls at a time with the information compressed into each one-eighth slot. It is likely both cell phone and tower operated at full strength.

So only at this stage did pulsations now become part of the technology. The cell phone transmitted one eighth of the time. If the tower was at full capacity it did not pulse the power. It did pulse if 4 calls were active and 4 channels were idle.

When the tower was able to change the output power for each call (due to range) did one get cell tower power pulsations. Cell phones were able to switch power modes so that the transmit power could be less (say 0.2W instead of 2W). But still pulsed between 0.2W and zero rather than 2W and zero every one-eighth of a second.

Everything I have now written is from memory. I did not have to visit the internet.

I have worked on designing A to D and D to A. My university thesis was to design a digital low pass filter with DIP shift registers and it worked.

I know error detection and correcting. Packet switching with headers and footer for recombination at the other end. I know enough to understand the effect of emfs and how they look on an oscilloscope and spectrum analyzer. The information contained in the signal is irrelevant except for the possible standing wave recombination effects where signals add and subtract - but this is probably minor.

Your pronouncements that I do not understand the technology and you do is false. And I think you know it.
 
Like this?


The shape is like this (without the arm piece.)

https://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/threemusketeers-disney-cast-swords.jpg

The mesh looks great but may not work as well because one must get conduction in any direction. The aluminium mesh probably one has good conduction along the wire, and not wire to wire, but this works because the horizontal wire handles the horizontal component and the vertical handles the vertical component. The chain mail is iron and has individual links.

Thanks for trying to help. Constructively.
 
What does it matter?

If you want to find out whether the strength of the signal affects the severity of your symptoms then you need to include that in the protocol of your blind test. Get your wife to monitor the reading whenever the wifi is switched on and record the maximum level it reached as well as the on/off status in her sealed envelope, and record the severity of your symptoms as well as when you think the wifi was on or off in yours. Then, when you eventually open the two sets of envelopes and compare what you each recorded after the final trial, you will have some useful data. Until then you've got bupkis.


What does it matter? And you think you know how to design a test?:eek:

You now longer have a binary yes/no) result but a sophisticated measuring test. How do you evaluate the success? You do not understand the variables yet, and your proposed solution has potential flaws. Perhaps JayUtah can tell you what the potential pitfalls are. Ask JayUtah for the formula. I would like to see him deal with that one.

I already know that the signal strength affects me. But it is not a matter of putting my hand in hot water and seeing how red it gets.

If the test failed because of signal variability then you would crow because it failed. You want it to fail so you are rushing to get a result. Now that I have given you this bit of information you have the benefit of hindsight and act so matter of fact.

As for the anecdote, you miss the point that a series of events had to take place to for me to discover that the modem has two quite different power outputs. This is how God operates. He does not sit people down and given them a written textbook or treatise. He guides events so that one learns. For you - Ho Hum. For others - they may learn something. You have no appreciation for the series of events that took place for me to learn the lessons I did yesterday. You don't want to.
 
For the record, I am posting because I got an unexpected(?) result yesterday.

I took two pain tablets at 8 am. I decided not to go to the tower house. I wanted a pain free day. At 6pm I heard my wife on her cell phone to her sister. They have long talks so I figured she would be using her modem. She was. It was on the table. I decided to take part in the conversation. Their dog had eaten the contents of the worm-tea composter. It had convulsions. It began messing the carpet. When the man tried to move the dog, it bit him hard. The sisters daughter is a vet and gave advice. Tetanus shot, antibiotics and pain tablets. The guys is used to pain and did not take the pain meds. Then the pain hit, and he regretted not taking the advice.

I tell you the story so you realize why I wanted to take part. I decide to monitor when the pain from the modem would hit me. Every so often I would go to internal check mode. At 6:15pm I felt nothing. That bothered me so I went to get the meter. The last time measured the modem it was close to maximum 1,999 uW/sqm pulse even at the other end of the house. Now it was less than 10 until I got close to the modem. It only went to 80 uW/sqm pulse a meter away and pointing directly at the modem. Strange. No wonder I did not feel anything.

I moved the modem to the kitchen corner where it was the first time. Still no change. I did some other checks but the radiation was typical of some other WiFi readings I have taken. Drops very low outside the room.

But then it suddenly jumped up to maximum output and the meter went off scale. Even in the passage. The audio was screaming. The radiation on the other side of the house was high. I took the modem back to the desk where it first was but still high. I now realized that I had spent between 5 and 10 minutes in this high radiation and was getting a number of symptoms. Dizziness and slight confusion. Slight headache. I went to the other side of the house and put my head shield on. Another 5 minutes and my shoulders started to ache. Then the modem was off. 35 minutes in all.

The headache and the should pain grew for another 15 minutes before peaking and slowly subsiding. By 8 pm I was okay.

Anyone have any guesses as to what happened?


Yes.

But there are other possible explanations. It might be possible to eliminate some of them by carrying out blinded tests. Until you properly test this, all you have is guesses.
 
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What does it matter? And you think you know how to design a test?:eek:
I'm telling you how to get useful data, which you do not currently have.

You now longer have a binary yes/no) result but a sophisticated measuring test. How do you evaluate the success?

If the data showed, for example, that you were more likely to guess correctly whether or not the WIFI was on if there was a spike in level during the trial then, even if you did not get a statistically significant number of hits, that would be interesting and possibly justification for further testing. If the level made no difference, and the hit rate was about the chance rate, you could be fairly sure you were barking up the wrong tree entirely, and start looking for more plausible causes of your symptoms.

You do not understand the variables yet, and your proposed solution has potential flaws. Perhaps JayUtah can tell you what the potential pitfalls are. Ask JayUtah for the formula. I would like to see him deal with that one.
Up until a couple of days ago the only variable you were claiming was relevant was whether or not the wifi was on. If you're now claiming there are other relevant variables then you need to design your experiment to measure and control for them, which I am trying to help you do.

I already know that the signal strength affects me.
No, you do not know that. You hypothesise it, based on anecdotal data.

If the test failed because of signal variability then you would crow because it failed. You want it to fail so you are rushing to get a result. Now that I have given you this bit of information you have the benefit of hindsight and act so matter of fact.
A test does not fail if it reveals the facts, even if those facts are not what the experimenter or test designer expected them to be.

The fact that the power output of the modem varies is only relevant if it affects the experiment. That would need to be established.

As for the anecdote, you miss the point that a series of events had to take place to for me to discover that the modem has two quite different power outputs. This is how God operates. He does not sit people down and given them a written textbook or treatise. He guides events so that one learns. For you - Ho Hum. For others - they may learn something. You have no appreciation for the series of events that took place for me to learn the lessons I did yesterday. You don't want to.
You could have measured how the power level varies at any time, you have a meter. Frankly I'd assumed you'd already done so. Your claim to be able to tell whether the wifi was on of off made no mention of variations in power levels, so there was no reason for anyone else to think it was a factor.
 
I know error detection and correcting. Packet switching with headers and footer for recombination at the other end. I know enough to understand the effect of emfs and how they look on an oscilloscope and spectrum analyzer. The information contained in the signal is irrelevant except for the possible standing wave recombination effects where signals add and subtract - but this is probably minor.

Your pronouncements that I do not understand the technology and you do is false. And I think you know it.


With this garbage post PS quite clearly that he does not understand the technology and at best has a layman's knowledge.

I see no point in engaging him directly in future. However, if other posters request any clarification on any transmission subjects, be it hardware related, implementation of encoding schemes, use of test equipment, etc. please feel free to post here and I will answer accordingly.
 
With this garbage post PS quite clearly that he does not understand the technology and at best has a layman's knowledge.

I see no point in engaging him directly in future. However, if other posters request any clarification on any transmission subjects, be it hardware related, implementation of encoding schemes, use of test equipment, etc. please feel free to post here and I will answer accordingly.


Try me on specifics. I have problems that companies like Siemens could not and that University Electrical Departments working with Hewlett Packard could not. You blunt statement has not basis in fact and simply trying to discredit me.

Are you working with the SA Telcoms?
 
I said:

The first radio signals may have been "pulsed" (as in switched on and off) to transmit Morse code.

Long and short pulses of course :D.
 
Yes.

But there are other possible explanations. It might be possible to eliminate some of them by carrying out blinded tests. Until you properly test this, all you have is guesses.


Your post is reasonable. I will explain in detail after JayUtah and EvilBiker have their say.

I am busy taking various measurements on WiFi and cell phones in our house. I will post the results and why they are relevant (but incomplete) later. I need to video tape them for later analysis. I should have done this earlier but I need to be healthy. I am getting better at figuring out what, how and when I get affected.

I should do what I did before. Encode a PDF document in crypto (M5 I think) and post it. Then supply the key. That way I can predict the possible answers from JU and EB. All they do is take statements of mine and criticize - thinking I am ignorant of the topics. They add a lot of tech-babble of their own - mostly not relevant.
 
With regard to this post, it clearly shows that your understanding is superficial to say the least.

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Your pronouncements that I do not understand the technology and you do is false. And I think you know it.

I see you've fallen back to calling your critics stupid and hoping others will believe that. Again, you've just thrown a lot of terms out there that you evidently hope will be unfamiliar to people, so that you can continue to insinuate they are distinctions that make the difference you propose. Or that they're even relevant, such as packet-switching and header-payload, which describe at the protocol level how information is organized between sender and receiver, but have bugger all to do with the electromagnetic properties of the signal used to encode them.

Yes, I too want the specifics on how the factors you mention result in a difference in the deposition of energy in human tissue. Assume I have a Phd level knowledge.

Proceed.
 
With this garbage post PS quite clearly that he does not understand the technology and at best has a layman's knowledge.

I see no point in engaging him directly in future. However, if other posters request any clarification on any transmission subjects, be it hardware related, implementation of encoding schemes, use of test equipment, etc. please feel free to post here and I will answer accordingly.

TBH, after that mess, I am not even sure what the claims are now.

His wife(?) uses a R216 modem. For those unfamiliar, that is one of those dumbass dedicated devices that uses the cell network to access the internet. I have used similar in the past for internet access when I was out and about. They're a bit **** to say the least. And totally unnecessary these days.

But he won't get rid of it. Why? It would save money and his health, so where is the problem? Well, he (or his wife) would lose internet, right? That wouldn't be good, right? Wrong.

Why is it wrong?

Because he (or his wife) could tether their cell phone to whatever computer device they care to.

How would this help? Saves money, eliminates the device he suspects, and furthermore he has already claimed that he puts his own phone on speaker when he uses it and keeps it at arms length and this apparently eliminates the effects. So if he tethered his phone to his computer (or his wife did, or both) he could toss the offending device in the trash and everyone is happy. Even if it turned out that the modem was not the cause at all and symptoms continued, It would still be a win, money saved and one cause eliminated for certain. This would then require that one sought the actual cause, also a good thing.


But somehow, this is not possible. Because reasons.

Of course, it is possible that the whole crazy notion has cause both him and his wife to use some really antique phones. I wouldn't rule that out.
 
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