Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 23

[Trebuchet]

I'm actually amazed that Fakebook acted before Twitter. Then again, they are terrified of DMCA.

 

[Trebuchet]

Yes, you are right. I still hold that the Constitution doesn't say anything limiting the number of SCOTUS jurists.

It doesn't. But legislation passed by the Congress does.

 

[Stacyhs]

"School Choice", in Republican-speak, means giving tax money to racist, anti-science, right wing religious schools.

That is the crux of the matter. "School Choice" really means "I want to send my kid to a church school and let the tax payers fund it." Church schools aren't public; they're private. If you want your kid to go to a private school, great. But pay for it yourself.

 

[acbytesla]

It doesn't. But legislation passed by the Congress does.

I know that. I'm just saying that has never been challenged.

 

[Stacyhs]

I'm predicting there's going to be violence in Tulsa tomorrow.

 

[acbytesla]

That is the crux of the matter. "School Choice" really means "I want to send my kid to a church school and let the tax payers fund it." Church schools aren't public; they're private. If you want your kid to go to a private school, great. But pay for it yourself.

Yep. But not just church schools, but any private school. Imagine Bill Gates's and other wealthy children getting money to send their children to Lakeside Academy.

 

[dudalb]

Yes, you are right. I still hold that the Constitution doesn't say anything limiting the number of SCOTUS jurists.

You are right,it does'nt. It giver the congress the right to determine the number of Supreme Court Justices. It was originally five. All it takes to change is a simple majority in both houses of congress.

 

[dudalb]

I'm predicting there's going to be violence in Tulsa tomorrow.

That is not a very risky prediction. Question is how bad it is going to get.
I spent some time In Tulsa when I was in the US Army stationed at Fort Sill. I was allways happy to get back to base. That is the kind of place Tulsa is.
OKC I liked, though.

 

[dudalb]

Yep. But not just church schools, but any private school. Imagine Bill Gates's and other wealthy children getting money to send their children to Lakeside Academy.

If you want to pay money to s end your kids to a private school, that is your right as a parent,and I have no problem with that, but don't ask me as a US Taxpayer to foot the bill.

 

[Stacyhs]

That is not a very risky prediction. Question is how bad it is going to get.
I spent some time In Tulsa when I was in the US Army stationed at Fort Sill. I was allways happy to get back to base. That is the kind of place Tulsa is.
OKC I liked, though.

I'm sure it will all be from the protesters' side because they'll be full of agitators, Antifa and lowlifes.

 

[Roger Ramjets]

Caveat: ZERO complacency here...

Note I'm not rationalizing the hatred against Clinton nor the ignorance of the danger of handing the reins to a clown like Trump. That's just how things were. We don't have that this time.

Granted the Republican smear campaign hasn't spent 30 years destroying Biden, but they can still do a lot even in just 4 months. Our best hope is that this time democrats take her message seriously - we really do need to stop Trump no matter what we think of the other candidate.

And we will need a lot more than just the popular vote to do it. Expect unprecedented interference at the ballot box, dirty tricks and corruption at all levels to suppress democrat votes. ZERO complacency is essential...

 

[acbytesla]

You are right,it does'nt. It giver the congress the right to determine the number of Supreme Court Justices. It was originally five. All it takes to change is a simple majority in both houses of congress.

All it takes is a simple majority in the Senate and a receptive court.

 

[SezMe]

Not sure if that would be such a good idea.

There are already lengthy delays in cases being decided in the supreme court. Adding another level of appeals before a case actually reaches the top might drag things out longer, and the new court won't have the same precedent-setting ability.

No, no not another level, just another court at the same level.

I don't think there is a backlog at the Supremes. They are the only court (that I know of) that gets to decide whether to hear a case. If the grant certiorar (agree to hear a case) or not and those that are taken are decided in that term.

At least that is my understanding. Can any ISF sharks clarify.

 

[Blue Mountain]

What I'm looking for is "Cautious optimism". The poll numbers look good, but it can still blow up in our faces if we get complacent or give in to despair.

Wait, Canadians can now vote for the President of the USA? Where can I get my mail-in ballot? Does it have to be from a border state or can I choose which race I want to vote in?

 

[Stacyhs]

All it takes is a simple majority in the Senate and a receptive court.

An act to change the number of justices must originate in the House. Unless the House and Senate are controlled by the same party, it isn't going to happen.

 

[Segnosaur]

Wait, Canadians can now vote for the President of the USA? Where can I get my mail-in ballot? Does it have to be from a border state or can I choose which race I want to vote in?

You have to be willing to wear a different hat when you vote.

If you have more than 1 hat you can vote multiple times.

(I myself am Canadian too and I often almost make the mistake of connecting myself to the u.s. system. Guess it's a combination of the current dullness of the Canadian system along with the influence of the u.s. economically and socially.)

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[acbytesla]

An act to change the number of justices must originate in the House. Unless the House and Senate are controlled by the same party, it isn't going to happen.

Think about this Stacy. Imagine say Trump wanting to pack the court. He nominates justices and the Republican Senate approves those justices and Chief Justice Roberts administers their oath. How do you stop that?

 

[SezMe]

What's established about it? When you walk, one of your legs is on the ground, and that one isn't supposed to be moving. On the video, that leg seemed to be slightly slipping downwards, which is why I said it was possible.

It was a warm June day filled with sunshine. The place where the event took place was a grassy field. Reporters noted that walking around on the grass did not get their shoes wet. I aver that if the grassy field was dry so was the hard surface of the ramp. Well, I suppose a groundskeeper could have sprayed the ramp with water just before Trump ended his speech.

I just think you laudable attempt to be fair went beyond what is reasonable. YMMV.

 

[Stacyhs]

Think about this Stacy. Imagine say Trump wanting to pack the court. He nominates justices and the Republican Senate approves those justices and Chief Justice Roberts administers their oath. How do you stop that?

You're asking me to entertain a conspiracy that the entire Senate would engage in blatantly breaking the process of passing a bill. No. Some are crap, but I do not believe the majority would stand for that. I don't think even most Republicans would tolerate that.

Sorry, but you're going off the deep end with this.

 

[acbytesla]

You're asking me to entertain a conspiracy that the entire Senate would engage in blatantly breaking the process of passing a bill. No. Some are crap, but I do not believe the majority would stand for that. I don't think even most Republicans would tolerate that.

Sorry, but you're going off the deep end with this.

Maybe.