Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 23

[The Great Zaganza]

Dog whistle? I don't understand why it'd be so in this instance, but then I wasn't aware of the word "juneteenth" until yesterday.

If you had to organize a big event in a town and had to pick a date - wouldn't you google first what else is going on that day?

Maybe the Trump Campaign had no one who knew about Juneteenth before they started looking, but they did for certain when they chose the 19th. and didn't care - or were delighted by the signal it would send.

 

[Darat]

It was painfully obvious that guy was there for Trump to lean on. Trump even tells him part way down to keep next to him, and he jumps into position.





He is not used to walking on anything but level ground for more than a hundred steps. The most exercise he has had recently was that cross-country run from 1600 over the road to the church and back. It took a whole pack of Adderall to keep him going the whole way. He had to lie down for the rest of the day.

Don't make things up, he just had to go and check his bedroom for the next few hours.

 

[Darat]

It's that for real? He already has a conservative majority, doesn't he?

And as ever he has to make it about himself.

 

[Darat]

Nah. There's no way even the Republicans would let him get away with trying that. Besides, what's he going to do? Send the police to drag one of the Justices away from the Supreme Court Building?

Don't forget at this "level" resignation and sacking are pretty much synonymous, I'm presuming a judge is allowed to resign?

 

[Lurch]

Okay well the camera's a bit shaky so it's not quite obvious to me either way. I thought it could have been slippery from dew or previous rain.



What's established about it? When you walk, one of your legs is on the ground, and that one isn't supposed to be moving. On the video, that leg seemed to be slightly slipping downwards, which is why I said it was possible.

Any "slipping" seemed to me to be due to deliberate, careful, small-step shuffling. It looked like he was barely lifting his feet, and putting only one foot forward. Caution and feeble infirmity combined.

 

[Darat]

Some more bad polling results for Stubby McBonespurs...

From: The Hill
Former Vice President Joe Biden has opened up a 12 point lead over President Trump in the latest Fox News national poll...

Back when it was CNN giving similar results, Trump got his own pollster to write a critique and demanded they retract their reporting of the results. I wonder if we are going to see the same sort of temper tantrum this time. (I know Trump occasionally complains about Fox, but its still his most important supporter.)

Trump is all about the now, doesn't matter if the network executives had had to murder their first borns to support him yesterday, say something bad about him now and you are dead to him. (Until you say something good about him.)

 

[Lurch]

Dog whistle? I don't understand why it'd be so in this instance, but then I wasn't aware of the word "juneteenth" until yesterday.

With that White Supremacist wankstain Stephen Miller anywhere near the scene, there'll be dog whistles none of us will see coming.

 

[Horatius]

I'd go far far left... judges that would make Ginsberg seem like a republican by comparison. As a way for the democrats to say "We tried to be reasonable and meet you half way with Garland. You acted like dickheads. No sense in us trying to play nice. Enjoy your commie-loving judges."

That should be their plan for everything they do. **** bipartisanship, if they get the power, every "consultation" with the Republicans should be the Congressional equivalent of "Because **** you, that's why!"

This is how the Republicans want to play the game. It's time to give them what they think they want, good and hard.

 

[Pixel42]

If you had to organize a big event in a town and had to pick a date - wouldn't you google first what else is going on that day?

Maybe the Trump Campaign had no one who knew about Juneteenth before they started looking, but they did for certain when they chose the 19th. and didn't care - or were delighted by the signal it would send.

I can't be bothered to look it up, but from the comments made at the time I got the impression that the Trump campaign deliberately chose the date to "ride on the coat tails", so to speak, of the anniversary. They genuinely thought it would be sending a positive message to hold the rally on the same day, and were surprised to learn it was actually crassly insensitive.

 

[Belz...]

If you had to organize a big event in a town and had to pick a date - wouldn't you google first what else is going on that day?

Look, I have no idea what we're talking about here. What other event?

 

[Beelzebuddy]

I can't be bothered to look it up, but from the comments made at the time I got the impression that the Trump campaign deliberately chose the date to "ride on the coat tails", so to speak, of the anniversary. They genuinely thought it would be sending a positive message to hold the rally on the same day, and were surprised to learn it was actually crassly insensitive.

Since when does the GOP want to send a positive message about race?


There's absolutely nothing coincidental or mistaken about it. If it's not enough "coincidence," the RNC just happened to move their convention to Jacksonville, Florida in time for the 60th anniversary of Ax Handle Saturday, in which the KKK (with police assistance) attacked a group of civil rights protestors:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ax_Handle_Saturday

I'm not comfortable just blaming Miller. I'll do that for Trump's occasional ultra-racist tweet. This **** had to go all the way up and down the chain of command, and there's no way it wasn't raised as an issue and everyone made aware of it.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

Since when does the GOP want to send a positive message about race?


There's absolutely nothing coincidental or mistaken about it. If it's not enough "coincidence," the RNC just happened to move their convention to Jacksonville, Florida in time for the 60th anniversary of Ax Handle Saturday, in which the KKK (with police assistance) attacked a group of civil rights protestors:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ax_Handle_Saturday

I'm not comfortable just blaming Miller. I'll do that for Trump's occasional ultra-racist tweet. This **** had to go all the way up and down the chain of command, and there's no way it wasn't raised as an issue and everyone made aware of it.

Many Republicans truly believe that most African Americans are ideologically much closer to the GOP than the Democrats.
They are not entirely wrong - many aspects of the Conservative Platform do align with a majority of Black voters, especially when it comes to Religion.

But of course Blacks can see that what Republicans say and what they do is entirely without overlap: the GOP claims to be devoid of racial politics, but that is only because they can't (or won't) see the casual racism most of their policies are based on.

If Conservatives would just practice what they preach, they might get plenty of votes from non-whites.

 

[slyjoe]

If you had to organize a big event in a town and had to pick a date - wouldn't you google first what else is going on that day?

Maybe the Trump Campaign had no one who knew about Juneteenth before they started looking, but they did for certain when they chose the 19th. and didn't care - or were delighted by the signal it would send.

The annual missives on Juneteenth from the White House didn't write themselves.

 

[William Parcher]

And yet, here you are, posting in a thread which is nothing but pure politics. Odd, that.



Me thinks he doth protesteth too much.

I don't come here for politics. I come as an observer and commentator on political fanaticism which is common to all the political parties.

This thread is not just pure politics. It's filled with hypocrisy and contradiction coming from all sides. I sometimes watch and sometimes speak. My history of posting in the politics forum probably looks something like, "this guy doesn't even do politics."

 

[William Parcher]

If Conservatives would just practice what they preach, they might get plenty of votes from non-whites.

Does this mean that if they actually build the wall then they might get plenty of votes from non-whites?

 

[Horatius]

They are not entirely wrong - many aspects of the Conservative Platform do align with a majority of Black voters, especially when it comes to Religion.

I'm not sure I agree with that part. There might be some superficial resemblance because they all claim to be Christians, but in behavior, a lot of the predominantly-white churches that the GOP panders to seem quite different from those of predominantly-black churches. While black churches seem to be an overall positive influence on their communities and society at large, the white churches seem to spend a lot more of their time on exclusionary, "culture wars" type things, that underlie a whole lot of the problems we're dealing with today.

If a white atheist in Canada can see that, I'm pretty sure a lot of black Christians in the US can see it as well.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

Does this mean that if they actually build the wall then they might get plenty of votes from non-whites?

the Wall is a Trump, not a Conservative policy.

If you take a 2008 or 2012 Party Platform, you will find a lot more sanity than what Trump has foisted on the GOP.

But yeah, it requires a ludicrous degree of ignorance to think that Trump's policies would appeal to Black voters.
The Trump Campaign knows this, which is why they hire actors from minorities to stand behind him at the Rallies, in best view of the cameras.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Trump Tweets.

@FoxNews is out with another of their phony polls, done by the same group of haters that got it even more wrong in 2016. Watch what happens in November. Fox is terrible!

 

[Andy_Ross]

Trump Tweeted

The Supreme Court asked us to resubmit on DACA, nothing was lost or won. They “punted”, much like in a football game (where hopefully they would stand for our great American Flag). We will be submitting enhanced papers shortly in order to properly fulfil the Supreme Court’s.....

...ruling & request of yesterday. I have wanted to take care of DACA recipients better than the Do Nothing Democrats, but for two years they refused to negotiate - They have abandoned DACA. Based on the decision the Dems can’t make DACA citizens. They gained nothing!
@DHSgov

 

[JoeMorgue]

I'm legit surprised he hasn't tried to start his own propaganda channel by this point.

But maybe that's what he considers his Twitter Feed.