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Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 22

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I glanced through that thing. The only thing right about that might be that a good chunk of potential Trump voters can't be reached by polling. Polling is too intrusive. Babbling on and on pro trump matters "anonymously" at their favorite websites is not.
Possible. Yet the polls for 2016 were actually pretty accurate (with regards to the popular vote... anything 'wrong' had more to do with the analysis of the polling results, rather than the accuracy of the polls themselves.)

I doubt much would have changed between 2016 and 2020 with respect to people being willing to answer polling questions. (Anyone that has problems answering pollster questions now probably would have been just as likely too avoid answering questions 4 years ago.)
 
All the authorities would have to do is ask nicely. They're only there because the cops cleared out of that one precinct overnight, sending the clear but unspoken message of "fine, let's see how far you get not having cops around." So far they're doing fine, though as you say unorganized goodwill can only roll for so long.

I think the whole strategy of Seattle officials is wait until is collapses of it's own weight.
If nothing else, sooner or later the criminal gangs are going to see easy pickings and move in...
 
Personally, I think that they have a good argument.

Mass voter suppression, disaffection and basic name recognition could easily get him a comfortable EC majority even if he loses the popular vote by an even bigger margin. He and the GOP can then continue to claim mass voter fraud in blue states

Frankly, if you are riggh then we are headed for a second civil war.
 
Trump Tweets

“We have greater confidence in our call for a V-shaped recovery, given recent upside surprises in growth data and policy action.” Chetan Ahya, Chief Economist at Morgan Stanley

“Trump team should get 'a lot of credit' for fast coronavirus stimulus: CBO”
 
Breaking: A poll released by Trump University shows Trump ahead in all 72 States.

Hundreds of governors support him too
 
Mass voter suppression, disaffection and basic name recognition could easily get him a comfortable EC majority even if he loses the popular vote by an even bigger margin. He and the GOP can then continue to claim mass voter fraud in blue states
And degeneration of USA into far rightwing corporate fascist authoritarian state continues...
 
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Trumpers insist Tulsa rally will be packed.
The rally will take place at the BOK Center in Tulsa, Oklahoma, which has a capacity of just under 20,000. The campaign says it is expecting a full house.
https://ktvz.com/politics/2020/06/1...re-is-what-trumps-tulsa-rally-will-look-like/
“It is a Trump rally, the arena will be packed,” said Tim Murtaugh, communications director for the Trump campaign.


I don't wish ill on a lot of people, but if half of this crowd contracts covid, and 20% of those land in the hospital and 1% die, it would be good for America.
 
Trumpers insist Tulsa rally will be packed.

I don't wish ill on a lot of people, but if half of this crowd contracts covid, and 20% of those land in the hospital and 1% die, it would be good for America.
I think you are wrong...

Not about people from the crowd contracting Covid19 and dying (hey that is Darwin in action) but I would rather they not end up in hospital. Let them suffer at home and leave the hospitals for people suffering for reasons other than their own stupidity.


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Trumpers insist Tulsa rally will be packed.
I don't wish ill on a lot of people, but if half of this crowd contracts covid, and 20% of those land in the hospital and 1% die, it would be good for America.

Predicted quote: "Look at all of you wearing masks. Well, some of you. I think it looks stupid, but that's OK. I wouldn't wear one myself."
 
Trumpers insist Tulsa rally will be packed.



I don't wish ill on a lot of people, but if half of this crowd contracts covid, and 20% of those land in the hospital and 1% die, it would be good for America.

Except when these chuckleheads drive back to Dallas, Kansas City, and LittleRock they will run around town bragging about how masks are for candy-assed liberals.
 
Predicted quote: "Look at all of you wearing masks. Well, some of you. I think it looks stupid, but that's OK. I wouldn't wear one myself."

Was that originally spoken by the man with the orange fake tan, ridiculous hair, bad posture, and ill-fitting suits? Yeah, he's someone who would know about not looking stupid. Let's all take fashion advice from him.
 
I'm not convinced that all 1 million requests for tickets are genuine.

I suggests everyone who wants a ticket drive to Tulsa and pack together in a poorly ventilated room for a few hours to buy them in person.
 
... The "Rioters and Looters" were mostly local criminals and gangs taking advantage of the chaos of the protests.<snip>

My political biases very much want this to be true but I can recognize confirmation bias even when I'm the culprit. Is there any information/data that gives this credence?
 
I glanced through that thing. The only thing right about that might be that a good chunk of potential Trump voters can't be reached by polling. Polling is too intrusive. Babbling on and on pro trump matters "anonymously" at their favorite websites is not.

Could you put that in English?
 
My political biases very much want this to be true but I can recognize confirmation bias even when I'm the culprit. Is there any information/data that gives this credence?

I've quoted and cited sources supporting this. I suggest you look for my posts in the last week or so. I'm not going to to back and find them all. They are there to see.
 
Frankly, if you are riggh then we are headed for a second civil war.

I hope I'm not right :o

I fear that, come October, a vaccine and cure for Coronavirus will be announced (which by December, like Hydroxychloroquine will turn out to be anything but), the guy just arrested in Russia will be released, some "great" economic numbers will be announced (unemployment down to 10%, the lowest ever) and he'll get just over 40% of the popular vote but 300+ electoral college votes with very low voting numbers in some districts in some swing states. :(
 
I've actually ordered a Trump joke book, sort of. It is Trump tweets edited and illustrated by Trevor Noah and gang. I might order a few more after our ordeal is over. They will be more fun than the current dull pain by then.

Mmm. On that subject, I rather enjoyed Pennyfarthing's books for a bit of cathartic amusement.

Elsewhere...

NOAA Admits It Was Wrong to Back Sharpiegate

That took way too long. Better late than never, though.

To poke for a moment at current events in foreign affairs, looks like the balance of power in Libya has tipped a bit again, away from the Russian backed warlord, unveiling the aftermath of what seems to be some pretty horrific massacres.

A bit more close to home...

Appeals court denies immunity to officers who shot a motionless black man 22 times.

Last week, the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals denied immunity to Martinsburg, WV police officers who shot a “secured” and “incapacitated” black man 22 times.

From the judicial opinion (which is well worth reading in its entirety).

In 2013, Wayne Jones, a black man experiencing homelessness, was stopped by law enforcement in Martinsburg, West Virginia for walking alongside, rather than on, the sidewalk. By the end of this encounter, Jones would be dead. Armed only with a knife tucked into his sleeve, he was tased four times, hit in the brachial plexus, kicked, and placed in a choke hold. In his final moments, he lay on the ground between a stone wall and a wall of five police officers, who collectively fired 22 bullets.

I don't think that that needs anything more said, really, beyond that the appeals court ruled that "qualified immunity," well...

To award qualified immunity at the summary judgment stage in this case would signal absolute immunity for fear-based use of deadly force, which we cannot accept. The district court’s grant of summary judgment on qualified immunity grounds is reversed, and the dismissal of that claim is hereby vacated.

Still, this is 7 years later and it would be unsurprising for this decision to be appealed. On the positive side, it has the potential for lowering the bar on qualified immunity to something less utterly absurd, though.

Elsewhere on the legal front...

Treasury Department concocted legal opinion obstructing oversight of COVID-19 bailout programs

Yeah, the Trump Administration still hates and actively blocks oversight, as they have since the start.

Onward to Georgia voting problems...

GA's New Computer Scanners Failed to Tally Unknown 1000s of Votes in Primary

Election Integrity advocate JEANNE DUFORT, was reportedly the first to notice that the digital computer scanners were simply failing -- inexplicably -- to count completely countable votes on ballots she reviewed while serving on a bi-partisan three-person review panel in her county. Dufort has served as a plaintiff in a number of successful legal complaints brought by the non-partisan Coalition for Good Governance, challenging the horrific computerized voting and tallying systems (both old and new) forced on all 159 counties in the state by its Republican Secretary of State.

After first spotting the apparently uncounted votes, she says on today's program, "we checked the audit trail. The computer said, 'unvoted.' But we're looking at a voter mark. No confusion that it's a vote." The same problem was subsequently discovered on a huge proportion of ballots reviewed in DeKalb, Clarke and Cherokee Counties. According to voting systems experts, the uncounted votes are likely to be found in every county in the state, since they were all forced to use the same new systems this year. (A system which, by the way, even the state of Texas refused to certify for use there, finding it to be "fragile and error prone.")

Despite rates of anywhere from 5 to 10% of ballots discovered in the initial four counties to have had valid untallied votes on them, DuFort says that while the votes on ballots they reviewed were added to the results, Morgan County's Board of Elections voted against an examination of the county's other 3,000 absentee ballots.

5-10% of validly cast ballots not counted. That's pretty horrific, even if there isn't intentional partisan skewing of the votes not counted (though it would be totally unsurprising if there is such).
 
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