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The Don said:
He can rest easy. Dom doesn't want it, so it won't happen. :(
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One of his concerns in the article is that Dom might be got rid of. he thinks the whole Barnard Castle thing was an attempt to sabotage Brexit.
 
Delphic Oracle said:
Filthy rabble now taint the place of better sorts.

And that jingoistic nostalgia.
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I missed the spelling of hordes first time around. I did note self-styled patriots in the comments section referring to “Brittania”, which should probably be a deportable offence.

Did this queen ever rule one third of the planet? Whether in land mass or population terms that seems high.

Captain_Swoop said:
One of the excuses for the Royal Yacht was it's supposed 'dual role' as a hospital ship in case of a war, it was fitted out with surgical suite etc.
This was shown to be a lie when the Navy sailed south to the Falklands, Britannia never went, a passenger ship was chartered and converted to a hospital ship.
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Interesting; thanks.
 
gypsyjackson said:
I missed the spelling of hordes first time around. I did note self-styled patriots in the comments section referring to “Brittania”, which should probably be a deportable offence.

Did this queen ever rule one third of the planet? Whether in land mass or population terms that seems high.
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Wikipedia has it at about 1/4 of the population and land mass. Given Britain's naval power you could easily argue that it was 1/3 or more of the globe that was under British control.
 
shuttlt said:
Wikipedia has it at about 1/4 of the population and land mass. Given Britain's naval power you could easily argue that it was 1/3 or more of the globe that was under British control.
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Yeah, I well remember the pink on the world map. But plenty of the area was Aus and Canada. Big places, not so many people ... ;)
 
India (and Pakistan and what would become Bangladesh) was independent before 1952 which takes the population part of the argument right down; arguably Australia and Canada were functionally independent of Britain too, though Gough Whitlam would disagree. That’s why I said this Queen rather than Queen Victoria. Though I’m willing to be corrected, 1952 the Royal Navy probably wouldn’t have claimed to have supremacy over, well, any ocean, so I was ignoring the sea to make it even possible to be close to one third.

I suppose there then comes the argument as to how much ruling the Queen does outside (or inside) Britain in those places which still have her as head of state.

But I see the wording was sufficiently vague in that the article could have been referring to Victoria, even if Britannia wasn’t constructed until the 1950s. The yacht, that is.
 
Nissan are once again warning that unless the UK has tariff and quota free access to the EU the Sunderland plant will have to close :(
 
I don't have a primary source for this, I'm afraid, but this tweet has a screenshot of an article which claims that hedge funds that financed Johnson's leadership campaign have $4.6b of aggregate short positions on a no deal Brexit.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
I don't have a primary source for this, I'm afraid, but this tweet has a screenshot of an article which claims that hedge funds that financed Johnson's leadership campaign have $4.6b of aggregate short positions on a no deal Brexit.
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Here’s the original piece from September last year:
Byline Times

The data it refers to can be found here though I haven’t fact checked.

ETA - I wonder if they made or lost money with the 31/10 extension.
 
gypsyjackson said:
Here’s the original piece from September last year:
Byline Times

The data it refers to can be found here though I haven’t fact checked.

ETA - I wonder if they made or lost money with the 31/10 extension.
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I don't think this is as simple as it appears. There is not a Brexit market as far as I am aware, at least these investments don't appear to be in an Brexit market. Hedge funds by their nature bet on other companies and buy shares or take short positions.

How do we know the short positions are in relation to Brexit rather than another reason? Are those short positions in companies that will benefit or lose out after brexit? How have the shares the hedge funds have bought been factored in or iis it only looking at short potions?

How does £8.3 billion in short positions compare to the amounts shorted 1 year ago, today? How many of the short positions were closed out before 31 October?

I am not convinced the Hedge funds putting money Johnston's way affected how the Tory party voted in the leadership election. After he won city traders job is to make money and you are bound to look at his promises and bet with or against them.

I am not sure this is as sinister as it is made out.
 
BBC News (UK)
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“We want you back”
PM Boris Johnson invites European workers who left the UK as lockdown began to return now it is being eased and retail sector is reopening
http://bbc.in/2BmWYlI
 
This looks like he wants open borders & free movement?
Is this how we 'take back control' & 'secure our borders' by inviting back people we threw out or made unwelcome?

Don't worry though, if they don't comer back Boris has invited 3million from Hong Kong, they should fill the gap.

Nigel will have a fit!
 
It's striking how happy the UK is to fold to the demands of American trade negotiators even when it’s politically damaging for them, compared to how it approaches talks with the EU.

Government ready to open British markets to chlorinated chicken for US trade deal

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...s-us-trade-deal-trump-a9548431.html#gsc.tab=0

It makes one wonder that since small concessions like this have been made, what are the large ones.
 
Ulf Nereng said:
As an aside to the imperial vs metric discussion I'd like to mention the so-called "descriptive" chess notation system which was in use in English speaking countries for far too long. It was still in use in in the eighties, when it was finally abandoned for the much more sensible algebraic notation which was of course invented by the germans a hundred years before the brits finally relented..

Example:

Kkt-KB3 (descriptive notation)
Nf3 (algebraic)
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I always thought algebra was given to us by the Arabian world.
 
TheSupermeerkat said:
It's striking how happy the UK is to fold to the demands of American trade negotiators even when it’s politically damaging for them, compared to how it approaches talks with the EU.

Government ready to open British markets to chlorinated chicken for US trade deal

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...s-us-trade-deal-trump-a9548431.html#gsc.tab=0

It makes one wonder that since small concessions like this have been made, what are the large ones.
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It's really quite simple. The Conservatives have to reject any attempt to compromise from their hardline position w.r.t. the EU which will mean that a no deal is not just inevitable, it's necessary.

It's necessary because they need a high profile trade deal fast and the only way that's possible is to just accept the terms offered/demanded (delete as applicable) by the other party. One of the prerequisites of a US trade deal is that there is no EU trade deal. :mad:

Boris Johnson will accept any and all terms in the US trade deal but will try to spin it to claim that not only has the government fought hard on behalf of the UK but all clauses in the deal are to the UK's benefit, regardless of the ample evidence to the contrary.
 
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