Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 22

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Stacyhs said:
Trump is sending the military in to quell the protests. According to CNN, a peaceful protest in Lafayette Park was disrupted by troops and mounted police. It will be interesting to see if other peaceful protests are going to be broken up by these troops. I think Trump may be pouring oil of the fire here. I have feeling there is going to be even more violence.
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I thought it was illegal to use the military in such a manner. Is that right? Under what authority is this being done?
 
Welp we had a good run. RIP America.

Wonder if any company in Canada needs a trained networking and telecommunications specialist?
 
SezMe said:
I thought it was illegal to use the military in such a manner. Is that right? Under what authority is this being done?
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Because it's Washington D.C. i.e. federal jurisdiction, it might be legal. Maybe.

Outside of D. C. no. Some exceptions apply.
 
There is no doubt in my mind anymore: democracy is finished in the USA if Trump is re-elected.
 
Stacyhs said:
Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde from the Episcopal Diocese of WA just said Trump 'used a Bible, a sacred text of the Judeo-Christian traditon, and one of the churches of my diocese without permission as a backdrop for a message antithetical to the teachings of Jesus and everything that our churches stand for.... I am outraged. The president did not pray when he came to St. John's nor, as you just articulated, did he acknowledge the agony of our country right now and, in particular that of the people of color in our nation who wonder if anyone ever in public power will ever acknowledge their shape and worth and who are rightfully demanding the end of 400 years worth of systemic racism."
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She spoke well. Trump simply does not care.
 
SezMe said:
I thought it was illegal to use the military in such a manner. Is that right? Under what authority is this being done?
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Legality is irrelevant. The US military is in lockstep with the dictator wannabe that they support. A sad end to a once great country.
 
I salute President Trumps leadership on this day. *salutes* Willing to assassinate protesters for.....protesting. *cries red, white and blue tears* God bless America..
 
SezMe said:
No, they aren't - well, except for a few such as federal marshals. Police are almost all employed by the city or county that they serve. They have no connection to the Federal Executive Branch at all.
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:confused: Nowhere did I say "federal". That was entirely your creation. And I stand by my claim that police are part of the executive branch (states and counties have executive branches too, you know).
 
Steve said:
Legality is irrelevant. The US military is in lockstep with the dictator wannabe that they support. A sad end to a once great country.
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Alas, it is a tragedy to watch the bulwark of democracy fail dismally. As a child of the sixties, the US was looked up to. Now it is looked down upon as a basket case. And they did it to themselves.
 
I'm curious if the cops knew the reason they were clearing out the protestors was just for a photo op. The next ones surely will.
 
SezMe said:
I thought it was illegal to use the military in such a manner. Is that right? Under what authority is this being done?
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The 1807 Insurrection Act.
The general purpose of the Insurrection Act is to limit presidential power, relying on state and local governments for initial response in the event of insurrection. The Posse Comitatus Act prohibits the use of the United States Army and Air Force (which has also been extended by executive direction to the Navy) for routine law enforcement. Actions taken under the Insurrection Act, as an "Act of Congress", are exempt from the Posse Comitatus Act.[1][2]
The Insurrection Act is brief. It allows the president, at the request of a state government, to federalize the National Guard and to use the remainder of the Armed Forces to suppress an insurrection against that state's government. It further allows for the president to do the same in a state without the explicit consent of a state's government if it becomes impracticable to enforce federal laws through ordinary proceedings or if states are unable to safeguard its inhabitants' civil rights.

The language of the act currently dates to 1871, when the Third Enforcement Act revised it to protect African Americans from attacks by the Ku Klux Klan.
The Insurrection Act has been invoked infrequently throughout American history, most recently following looting in the aftermath of Hurricane Hugo in 1989 and during the 1992 Los Angeles riots. [3][4]
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In 1981, the Office of Legal Counsel stated that the act may only be used when states exhaust their own resources
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(Wikipedia)
 
I see Trump's newest refrain is "Law..and...Order!" since building the wall and making "America Great Again" clearly failed miserably. Let's see how badly he can fudge this one. :boxedin:
 
Steve said:
I don’t think they cared why. They just seized the opportunity to unleash a little violence.
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Let's hope they start caring, then, because from the sound of things this is going to keep escalating until they decide following those specific orders isn't in their best interest anymore.

[ETA] Will you people stop arguing about legality? Trump does not and has not and will not ever give a rat's ass about whether his orders are legal. Will they be followed, is the question you should be asking.
 
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