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Global "cooling

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I read an article over at Drudge the other day, reporting a 30% reduction in the Gulf Current stream, the oceanic current that delivers warmth to the Northeast coastline and Europe.

Heavy salty water sinks when it gets cold. The saltier the water, the faster it sinks. Icey areas are melting, because of "global warming", and previously locked up fresh water was held in glaciers. Enough fresh water had been released to cause the current speed to slow by ONE THIRD.

"Fluctuations are normal."..., right?

When do 'spikes' become abnormal? Upon what scale are we to measure current speeds, on an oceanic scale?

Question: "How is a politician connect this to driving a Humvee?"
 
So these "local observations"...

...have noting to do with other global fluctuations?

I am 30. I can remember the winters in my 'youth' *cough*, as being cooler and oftentimes whiter. I asked my father, and he reported heavy snows in his childhood, in this area. In MY short time here, I have witnessed a general 'warming' in my local area.

But that is really not the point at all.

The Gulf Stream current has slowed 30% in 5 years.

Is that significant?
 
...have noting to do with other global fluctuations?

I am 30. I can remember the winters in my 'youth' *cough*, as being cooler and oftentimes whiter. I asked my father, and he reported heavy snows in his childhood, in this area. In MY short time here, I have witnessed a general 'warming' in my local area.

But that is really not the point at all.

The Gulf Stream current has slowed 30% in 5 years.

Is that significant?
Same here...

I remember back when I was 5 years old the snow would come all the way up to my knees... thirty years later and it only makes it about halfway up my shins. :rolleyes:
 
We don't know.
In 95-96 I worked on rigs out west of Shetland. They usually had a marine physicist or climatologist aboard monitoring ocean current sensors. They reported frequently surprising behaviour- sudden reversals , temperature fluctuations etc. Basically they had a single sensor string through a current miles wide and deep. Like sticking one sensor in a river and trying to model it's flow regime. We need decade upon decade of such records to know what deep ocean water really does.

It's widely felt that the last glacial push in Europe, the Younger Dryas, ("The Loch Lomond Glacial"in UK), was caused by rapid warming melting the northern ice cap and dumping megatons of cold water into the North Atlantic Drift. Just as warming a hypothermia victim too fast can kill him by opening peripheral circulation too fast and flooding the core with chilled blood.

We're all doomed. One way or the other.
 
...have noting to do with other global fluctuations?

I am 30. I can remember the winters in my 'youth' *cough*, as being cooler and oftentimes whiter. I asked my father, and he reported heavy snows in his childhood, in this area. In MY short time here, I have witnessed a general 'warming' in my local area.

But that is really not the point at all.

The Gulf Stream current has slowed 30% in 5 years.

Is that significant?

Have you, by any chance, checked with the weather statistics, instead of relying on you (provable) poor memory?

No?

I think you should.
 
Remember in the 70s the media, or someone, had us all headed for a global ice-age because of pollution blocking out the sun?
 
Yes, and some very vocal groups warned that by 2000 there wouldn't be one drop of crude oil left to drill for.
 
Heavy salty water sinks when it gets cold. The saltier the water, the faster it sinks. Icey areas are melting, because of "global warming",

I concur. My memory includes warm salty water flowing downward within my pants, warming my cold feet. It hasn't happened in years. I think this anecdotely proves tha Global Warming is NOT caused by mans action, but by little boys?
 

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