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Stacyhs said:
A normal president in the same situation as Trump wouldn't go anywhere near bringing up Reade. But, Trump isn't a normal president. Hell, he isn't even a normal human being.
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Dont fall for it !!!

Now that our man Joe Biden is officially listed as a criminal suspect in a court of law, we can spin it up into new ammunition to use against Trump.

So relax, its a good thing !

Rejoice !!
 
I am sure the MSM will immediately report our man Joe Biden is officially listed as a criminal suspect in a court of law.
 
Bubba said:
Dont fall for it !!!

Now that our man Joe Biden is officially listed as a criminal suspect in a court of law, we can spin it up into new ammunition to use against Trump.

So relax, its a good thing !

Rejoice !!
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I love the irony of you introducing this right after someone pointed out the hypocrisy of the Trump campaign attacking Biden on the basis of sexual assault allegations made against him. You could throw in Trump’s well documented relationship with serial nonce to billionaires Epstein.

Donald Trump’s business dealings are dodgy AF. Its why this outhouse rat keeps blocking efforts to expose his tax returns and dubious bank loans.
 
Bubba said:
Dont fall for it !!!

Now that our man Joe Biden is officially listed as a criminal suspect in a court of law, we can spin it up into new ammunition to use against Trump.

So relax, its a good thing !

Rejoice !!
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OAN. Why am I not surprised that you would post this? You really have no idea what this is really about, do you? I suggest you stop getting your info from an extreme right wing echo chamber.

From WAPO:
KYIV, Ukraine — Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky called on his law enforcement agencies Wednesday to investigate leaked audio of private phone calls several years ago between then-Vice President Joe Biden and Ukraine’s then-president, Petro Poroshenko, and said the conversations “might be perceived, qualified as high treason.”

Speaking at a news conference at Kyiv’s Mariinsky Park to mark the first anniversary of his presidency, Zelensky was again pulled into U.S. politics just eight months after a phone conversation between him and President Trump became the subject of an impeachment inquiry in Washington.

The recordings, which were first played at a news conference Tuesday in Kyiv, shed relatively little new light on Biden’s role in ousting Ukraine’s prosecutor general four years ago. But Zelensky’s comments Wednesday could have been aimed at appeasing Trump, discrediting a rival in Poroshenko and deflecting to investigators all in one swipe.
Hours before Zelensky’s news conference, the New York Times published an op-ed in which he said that “the impeachment story was not comfortable for me.”
“It took American and international attention away from the issues that mattered most to Ukraine and turned our country into a story about President Trump,” he added.
The Biden-Poroshenko audio appears likely to have the same effect. The Ukrainian prosecutor general’s office said Wednesday that it has opened an inquiry on counts of high treason and abuse of power or office based on Derkach’s allegation that the tapes point to Biden’s influence on Poroshenko.

The recordings showed that Biden, as he has previously said publicly, linked loan guarantees for Ukraine in 2015 to the ouster of Viktor Shokin, then the country’s prosecutor general. But Derkach, an independent member of Ukraine’s parliament who previously aligned with a pro-Russian faction and has past links to Russian intelligence, used the new clips to make an array of accusations not proved by the tapes. Derkach said he received the tapes from “investigative journalists” and alleged that Poroshenko made them.
Poroshenko said in a statement Wednesday that Biden “is a friend and an ally of Ukraine” and that the “Kremlin has launched a full-fledged special operation against Ukraine.” His statement also referred to the audio as “bogus.”“By means of pulling Ukraine into the electoral struggle in the U.S., they are trying to undermine the U.S. bipartisan support of Ukraine,” he said, adding that Zelensky’s news conference “has given rise to a reasonable suspicion about the Office of the President of Ukraine to also have been involved in this special operation.”
The rivalry between Zelensky and Poroshenko dates to the presidential election last year, which Zelensky won in a landslide. Poroshenko accused Zelensky of being a tool of oligarchs and Russian interests, while Zelensky accused Poroshenko and his administration of corruption and gross mismanagement.

“I’m not your opponent — I’m your verdict,” Zelensky told Poroshenko during their only presidential debate.
Since leaving office, Poroshenko has been interrogated as a witness in more than a dozen criminal investigations, and in February, prosecutors threatened to arrest him if he did not appear for questioning.
Western officials have raised concerns that the former president is being singled out for political retribution, but Ukrainian authorities deny there is any political motivation behind the cases.

Rudolph W. Giuliani, who serves as Trump’s personal lawyer, met Derkach during a trip to Kyiv in December. The tapes released offered no evidence to back Giuliani’s long-standing accusation that Biden pushed for Shokin’s removal to help his son Hunter Biden. At the time, the younger Biden was earning $50,000 to $100,000 a month on the board of the Ukrainian gas company Burisma, whose owner, a former government minister, was under investigation in Ukraine.
At no point in the clips released Tuesday does Biden mention Burisma or his son. Shokin’s firing was not a unilateral action directed by Biden but was prompted by a push for anti-corruption measures developed at the State Department and coordinated with the European Union and the International Monetary Fund.
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TellyKNeasuss said:
Speaking of courts of law, it appears that Tara Reade lied under oath while acting as an expert witness during a criminal trial.

http://www.montereycountyweekly.com...cle_89c8bfcc-9bb2-11ea-826b-7776b2cd779e.html
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I'll wait until Antioch U gets back with a definitive answer about whether Reade graduated or not. But, does anyone else see the irony in this?

“Her testimony was critical to the jury in terms of them not believing (the victim) when he testified that our clients weren’t the ones who set the fire,” he says. “She was a pivotal witness to attack his credibility.
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But credibility doesn't count, right? Right?
 
And now Hidin' Biden has finally come up with something to use in a campaign against Trump: calling him "President Tweety".

That's deep strategery there, Captain Electable. Maybe for the next one, you could even take another step along your path of brilliance & boldness & inspiringness, and try to find a way to work the word "orange" into it.
 
Bubba said:
I am sure the MSM will immediately report our man Joe Biden is officially listed as a criminal suspect in a court of law.
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Courts don't have "suspects." People are either charged or they're not. And Biden isn't (and he's not suspected of anything, either).
 
Stacyhs said:
But she didn't complain about Biden "diddling her". She says she did not use the words 'sexual assault' or 'sexual harassment' in her complaint, much less against Biden, in 1993. She said she complained about being asked to serve drinks because Biden liked her legs (which she never claimed HE had said to her). In fact, no one says she ever mentioned sexual harassment, much less assault, during her time in Biden's office. That only came later. What her 'close friend' at the time said was that Reade complained about have a hard time at work. Another colleague said she told him she was being let go for 'a medical reason".

Try again.
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On video, Reade said Biden shoved his hand under her clothes and penetrated her.

Everyone knows the technical term for that is 'diddling'.


Try again.
 
Things they say when they have no clue they are getting their info from an extreme left wing echo chamber populated by idiotic corrupt dishonest political activists masquerading as journalists:


Stacyhs said:
OAN. Why am I not surprised that you would post this? You really have no idea what this is really about, do you? I suggest you stop getting your info from an extreme right wing echo chamber.
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Bubba said:
How they sound when they have no clue they are getting their info from an extreme left wing echo chamber populated by idiotic corrupt dishonest political activists masquerading as journalists:
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When irony and projection collide...
 
TellyKNeasuss said:
It's conceivable that Trump will use Tara Reade as a reason why his own accusers shouldn't be believed.
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No one's going to bring Trump's sexual abuse up. There's so much other stuff proving Trump is unqualified to be POTUS. He's so FUBAR no one cares about his raw-dogging porn stars. :cool:
 
Bubba said:
That makes perfect sense.

Because if she was let go because she complained about Biden diddling her, they would have said: "We let her go because she complained about Biden diddling her, and rather than give her 30 days the termination is immediate as punishment."

In the real world, they make up legit sounding reasons, and give 30 days or more to make it look innocent.
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Stacyhs said:
But she didn't complain about Biden "diddling her". She says she did not use the words 'sexual assault' or 'sexual harassment' in her complaint, much less against Biden, in 1993. She said she complained about being asked to serve drinks because Biden liked her legs (which she never claimed HE had said to her). In fact, no one says she ever mentioned sexual harassment, much less assault, during her time in Biden's office. That only came later. What her 'close friend' at the time said was that Reade complained about have a hard time at work. Another colleague said she told him she was being let go for 'a medical reason".

Try again.
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Bubba said:
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On video, Reade said Biden shoved his hand under her clothes and penetrated her.
Everyone knows the technical term for that is 'diddling'.


Try again.
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Ok, Bubba, I'm going to explain this to you in very simple terms so maybe you can follow it. Maybe. Hope springs eternal.

1. Reade said she did not mention sexual harassment or assault in
her alleged 1993 complaint before she was fired or quit (various stories on
that one). Pssst...sexual assault includes being "diddled" without consent.

2. Therefore, she could not have been fired for saying Biden "diddled'
her.

3. Reade first publicly claimed Biden sexually assaulted her last March. You
know, 27 years later.

4. You think I didn't know what the term "diddled" meant before you
mansplained it to me?
 
Bubba said:
Things they say when they have no clue they are getting their info from an extreme left wing echo chamber populated by idiotic corrupt dishonest political activists masquerading as journalists:
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Yeah. I didn't think you were going to address the information in the article. Quelle surprise.
 
Stacyhs said:
I'll wait until Antioch U gets back with a definitive answer about whether Reade graduated or not. But, does anyone else see the irony in this?
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From the NY Times article on this issue:

She sent The Times a screenshot of a transcript showing her with 35 course credits, her department as “BA Completion” and nothing listed under “date conferred” or “degree conferred.”
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(Antioch used quarters rather than semesters, so 35 hours is less than a full year's worth of credits.)

The Times also furnished this quote from the trial transcript:

"I was a legislative assistant"
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apparently as part of an attempt to imply that she had worked on the Violence Against Women Act.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/21/us/politics/tara-reade-credentials.html
 
I have to admit, this accusation about Reade's undergraduate degree is pretty severe. Hopefully we get some sort of firm resolution soon. If the worst accusation is true, Reade misrepresented herself in order to get a law degree and intentionally perjured herself on numerous occasions, really casting a lot of doubt on her credibility.

I suppose it's nice that the smear campaign against Reade has a real meaty accusation to dig into rather than tedious speculations about bounced checks or miffed landlords. Regardless on how things turn out for Reade regarding her degree, I still stand by my characterizations of the smear campaign for these imagined bombshells.

Given the gravity of the accusation about Reade committing perjury, I imagine we'll actually get a firm resolution with some concrete proof, rather than Twitter speculation about check fraud. Diplomas will or won't be produced, court records will be examined, etc.

Whatever the conclusion, I stand by my claim that the desperate fascination about bad checks was a shameful attempt to make an otherwise unverifiable, politically inconvenient sexual assault claim disappear.
 
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Biden has contentious interview with Charlamagne tha God, a black co-host of "the Breakfast club". During the back and forth, Biden says:

“You’ve got more questions?” Biden replied. “Well, I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black.”
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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/22/joe-biden-breakfast-club-interview-274490

Throw this into the pile with all the other comments of Biden browbeating potential voters who ask him pointed questions.

I'm not political expert, but saying the quiet part out loud about how Black voters really don't have any option but to vote D probably isn't a good strategy.

Edit: Looking into this more, the exchange isn't nearly as contentious as some right-wing pundits are trying to make it seem. Still a gaffe on Biden's part, but not open hostility towards the host as some are presenting it to be.
 
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SuburbanTurkey said:
I have to admit, this accusation about Reade's undergraduate degree is pretty severe. Hopefully we get some sort of firm resolution soon. If the worst accusation is true, Reade misrepresented herself in order to get a law degree and intentionally perjured herself on numerous occasions, really casting a lot of doubt on her credibility.

I suppose it's nice that the smear campaign against Reade has a real meaty accusation to dig into rather than tedious speculations about bounced checks or miffed landlords. Regardless on how things turn out for Reade regarding her degree, I still stand by my characterizations of the smear campaign for these imagined bombshells.

Given the gravity of the accusation about Reade committing perjury, I imagine we'll actually get a firm resolution with some concrete proof, rather than Twitter speculation about check fraud. Diplomas will or won't be produced, court records will be examined, etc.

Whatever the conclusion, I stand by my claim that the desperate fascination about bad checks was a shameful attempt to make an otherwise unverifiable, politically inconvenient sexual assault claim disappear.
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This is like the repo man thing you were on about before, right?
 
Biden: ‘If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black’

:eek:

Chris B.
 
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