Jogging in Georgia while black.

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Thermal said:
No, that's a descriptor. They are telling the police who they are reporting- a black guy running down the road. As opposed to a fat white coward with a shotgun (who the cops should have been apprehending, as we now know).

So the rednecks should have left out the visual identifier of him being black? 'I don't see race', that's what you are running with when police need a physical description?
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The police need a crime being committed or some other reason to come out. McMichaels only had that Arbery was a black man on their road. He didn't describe clothing, he didn't describe height or weight. McMichaels described what he felt the problem was: a black man on his road.
 
wareyin said:
The police need a crime being committed or some other reason to come out. McMichaels only had that Arbery was a black man on their road. He didn't describe clothing, he didn't describe height or weight. McMichaels described what he felt the problem was: a black man on his road.
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No, the caller claimed that they saw him trespassing, and the dispatcher asked "What did he do wrong?," and he claimed that he had been caught on camera "a bunch at night." His description was “Black guy, white T-shirt. He’s done run into the neighborhood again.” The police did respond.
https://thebrunswicknews.com/news/l...cle_fe51cdd4-3bb6-5815-9dec-ddcdc8f879f8.html
 
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sir drinks-a-lot said:
The past several pages are why I find comments like this to be so hilarious:



That totally has not been my experience here at all. Rather, there are a set of "correct views" which are seldom questioned and fanatically held in a mob-like fashion by many on the forum. all sorts of crackpot, fallacious, un-evidenced statements can be made as long as they don't contradict the dogma.

On the other hand, any post contradicting of questioning (gasp!) the hive mind, will be met with a sort of pseudo-skepticism where they will be asked to give evidence for the most trivial, obvious and accepted truths.

It may even make a good bumper sticker: ISF - Where critical thinking goes to die
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Which ancient Greek philosopher did "LOL da stupid triggered skeptics think racism exists" come from?
 
Bob001 said:
No, the caller claimed that they saw him trespassing, and the dispatcher asked "What did he do wrong?," and he claimed that he had been caught on camera "a bunch at night." The police did respond.
https://thebrunswicknews.com/news/l...cle_fe51cdd4-3bb6-5815-9dec-ddcdc8f879f8.html
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No. I distinctly remember listening to the call and it going like this:

"Yeah, we need police out here with full execution squad gear."

"Sir, I'm going to need to ask your race right off the bat"

"I'm a white man, ma'am"

"Wonderful. I'm dispatching the kill team now, but just for formality's sake... I suppose I should take down a brief note about why you're calling. What's up?"

"Well, we got ourselves a negro out here and he-"

"Say no more sir! They should be there presently."
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JoeMorgue said:
Which ancient Greek philosopher did "LOL da stupid triggered skeptics think racism exists" come from?
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I think the new argument is: "It's not racism because he's a thief! He's obviously a thief because he's black! Not racism! And I used to vote Obama, LOL!"

I don't know anymore. A Man is dead, and people think it's OK.
 
Shalamar said:
I think the new argument is: "It's not racism because he's a thief! He's obviously a thief because he's black! Not racism! And I used to vote Obama, LOL!"

I don't know anymore. A Man is dead, and people think it's OK.
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How far do you think any narrative about him being a thief would be getting, how much traction would it have... if there was a dead black guy on the pavement with water bottle, athletic jogging clothes, earbuds in, and zero surveillance footage showing him being anywhere other than jogging along the street, and camera footage of him being shot as he ran away - no punches, no grabbing the gun?

Something tells me that the narrative that he's a thief has something to do with him being a thief. You disagree?
 
Has anyone investigated to see if the McMichaels were in Chicago in the early morning hours of January 29, 2019?
 
Bob001 said:
No, the caller claimed that they saw him trespassing, and the dispatcher asked "What did he do wrong?," and he claimed that he had been caught on camera "a bunch at night." His description was “Black guy, white T-shirt. He’s done run into the neighborhood again.” The police did respond.
https://thebrunswicknews.com/news/l...cle_fe51cdd4-3bb6-5815-9dec-ddcdc8f879f8.html
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There were 2 911 calls. So far as I know, they were by different people. The call made by McMichaels made no mention of his clothing. Here is the McMichaels call per your source: "The next 911 call from Satilla Shores came in at 1:14 p.m.

“I’m out here at Satilla Shores,” the man said. “There’s a black male running down the street.”

“Where at Satilla Shores?” the dispatcher asked.

“I don’t know what street we’re on,” the man replied.

“Stop!” he can be heard shouting. “Watch that. Stop, damn it! Stop!”

That call went blank for several minutes, with the dispatcher trying several times to reach the caller. The call eventually hangs up."
 
wareyin said:
There were 2 911 calls. So far as I know, they were by different people. The call made by McMichaels made no mention of his clothing. Here is the McMichaels call per your source: "The next 911 call from Satilla Shores came in at 1:14 p.m.

“I’m out here at Satilla Shores,” the man said. “There’s a black male running down the street.”

“Where at Satilla Shores?” the dispatcher asked.

“I don’t know what street we’re on,” the man replied.

“Stop!” he can be heard shouting. “Watch that. Stop, damn it! Stop!”

That call went blank for several minutes, with the dispatcher trying several times to reach the caller. The call eventually hangs up."
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Are you sure that was the McMichaels? I thought police said they Still didn't know who that was. Little odd not to know what street they were on, considering they lived on it.

Eta: don't bother answering. I just checked the link you referenced. It says the police redacted the names of both callers.
 
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Shalamar said:
I think the new argument is: "It's not racism because he's a thief! He's obviously a thief because he's black! Not racism! And I used to vote Obama, LOL!"

I don't know anymore. A Man is dead, and people think it's OK.
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Exactly my thoughts.

I suppose it’s refreshing to discover in this thread that the event couldn’t possibly involve racism, which it seems has been magically eradicated in Georgia. In such a gun loving, racism-free place there must be ample examples of white people being hunted and murdered in a similar way to Arbery. I’m sure some will be cited. :rolleyes:
 
wareyin said:
There were 2 911 calls. So far as I know, they were by different people. The call made by McMichaels made no mention of his clothing. Here is the McMichaels call per your source: "The next 911 call from Satilla Shores came in at 1:14 p.m.

“I’m out here at Satilla Shores,” the man said. “There’s a black male running down the street.”

“Where at Satilla Shores?” the dispatcher asked.

“I don’t know what street we’re on,” the man replied.

“Stop!” he can be heard shouting. “Watch that. Stop, damn it! Stop!”

That call went blank for several minutes, with the dispatcher trying several times to reach the caller. The call eventually hangs up."
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When I first opened the link, the audio played. It seems to be gone now. It sounded like two different voices. It sounds like the first call was likely made by the son and the second call by Dad, who didn't live there and wouldn't necessarily know the street names.

This link has the audio of both calls.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...called-911-report-black-male-running-shooting
 
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Thermal said:
Are you sure that was the McMichaels? I thought police said they Still didn't know who that was. Little odd not to know what street they were on, considering they lived on it.

Eta: don't bother answering. I just checked the link you referenced. It says the police redacted the names of both callers.
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Oh, good. Now that they redacted who was who, we can ignore who was in the scuffle with Arbery and who had previously claimed to make that call in their publicized official statements.

Good lord do some people bend over backwards to pretend that it just can't possibly be racism despite the killers all but burning a cross in Arbery's lawn.
 
Bob001 said:
When I first opened the link, the audio played. It seems to be gone now. It sounded like two different voices, and if dad was visiting son's house he wouldn't necessarily know the nearby street names. It sounds like the first call was likely made by the son and the second call by Dad, who didn't live there and wouldn't necessarily know the street names.

This link has the audio of both calls.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...called-911-report-black-male-running-shooting
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In the video of Arbery looking over the construction site, there is a man visible on the phone. The first caller is reporting a man in the construction site now, so he had to have been there. Which McMichael was the one on that video? It's been claimed that there was a visible caller in this thread, but I can't find that on any video. Please disregard the strike.

eta: According to your link, the second caller yelled out "Travis", during the scuffle, so despite Thermal's confusion I think we can safely assume it was Gregory McMichael.
 
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Bob001 said:
When I first opened the link, the audio played. It seems to be gone now. It sounded like two different voices. It sounds like the first call was likely made by the son and the second call by Dad, who didn't live there and wouldn't necessarily know the street names.

This link has the audio of both calls.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...called-911-report-black-male-running-shooting
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That makes sense, that the dad might be the second caller, because he tells 'Travis' at the end. The caller knew the killer. Not knowing the sons street name that he just drove to is a little odd. Odder still is why the police are making the callers identities anonymous if they are the charged suspects.
 
wareyin said:
In the video of Arbery looking over the construction site, there is a man visible on the phone. The first caller is reporting a man in the construction site now, so he had to have been there. Which McMichael was the one on that video? It's been claimed that there was a visible caller in this thread, but I can't find that on any video. Please disregard the strike.

eta: According to your link, the second caller yelled out "Travis", during the scuffle, so despite Thermal's confusion I think we can safely assume it was Gregory McMichael.
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'My confusion' is not the issue. I asked if you were sure about a factual matter. The truth was, you were assuming but claiming factual. Not the first time. You'll also note in the stricken part, you get again make a factual claim about seeing a caller, which really you just read somewhere. We get points for accuracy around these here parts, cowboy.
 
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wareyin said:
In the video of Arbery looking over the construction site, there is a man visible on the phone. The first caller is reporting a man in the construction site now, so he had to have been there. Which McMichael was the one on that video? It's been claimed that there was a visible caller in this thread, but I can't find that on any video. Please disregard the strike.

eta: According to your link, the second caller yelled out "Travis", during the scuffle, so despite Thermal's confusion I think we can safely assume it was Gregory McMichael.
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I dunno. Where is Travis' house in relation to the construction site? It weakens the McMichaels' flimsy defense even more if neither of them made that first 911 call.
 
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