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It seems a bit unlikely that the Biden camp wouldn't have known about this, or that the press wouldn't have done a basic background check. Is the idea that they decided to sit on it for a bit, that they forgot/didn't look or something else? I'm genuinely puzzled about what we think the chain of events is?
 
Stacyhs said:
I think it's time to remind people that not a single woman beside Reade has said that Biden's actions ever amounted to harassment or assault. The worst they said was that he made them "uncomfortable" by invading their private space.
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This significant fact continues to be overlooked by fact-challenged Bernie supporters.

The allegations are solitary and notably flimsy. When solitary, flimsy allegations are used to denigrate someone, that's worse that dishonorable. Its slimy. It's particularly noxious to use metoo as a shield.
 
shuttlt said:
It seems a bit unlikely that the Biden camp wouldn't have known about this, or that the press wouldn't have done a basic background check. Is the idea that they decided to sit on it for a bit, that they forgot/didn't look or something else? I'm genuinely puzzled about what we think the chain of events is?
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30 years ago some random staffer getting busted and being asked to resign is not going to particularly stand out memory wise. I mean after the fact they might put it together and be all "oh, so that was her?"

Another possibility is that they didn't want the bad optics of releasing her background info themselves and were waiting for someone else to uncover it.

Or there were two Tara Reades roaming around San Luis Obispo around that time and we stumbled upon something irrelevant.
 
Travis said:
30 years ago some random staffer getting busted and being asked to resign is not going to particularly stand out memory wise. I mean after the fact they might put it together and be all "oh, so that was her?"

Another possibility is that they didn't want the bad optics of releasing her background info themselves and were waiting for someone else to uncover it.

Or there were two Tara Reades roaming around San Luis Obispo around that time and we stumbled upon something irrelevant.
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There seemed to be quite a few people who remembered her and the events immediately after. I suspect the "something irrelevant" part there. Honestly, if it turns out that this is true, then Biden and the press who support him look hilariously incompetent.
 
Not saying it applies to Reade, but something to think about generally when assessing accusations against public figures:
A woman who had accused Dr. Anthony Fauci of sexual assault now claims she was paid to lie about the public health expert by a pair of President Donald Trump's supporters.

The woman says right-wing provocateur Jacob Wohl and his frequent accomplice Jack Burkman persuaded her to cast Fauci as the assailant using details from an actual sexual assault she survived just after high school, and they paid her to do it, reported Reason.
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https://www.salon.com/2020/05/07/wo...ims-trump-supporters-paid-her-to-lie_partner/
https://reason.com/2020/05/07/she-s...aid-her-to-lie/?amp&__twitter_impression=true
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
:rolleyes:

Pages and pages of the Trump has a pathologic personality disorder thread and you think this is a relevant comment?
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I do.

We have a candidate who is accused of sexual assault, lies, don't speak well. Not a word from those stalwart defenders of The People of America the World.

OTOH, we don't ever stop hearing about every. single. one. of Trump's gaffes, lies and other offenses and how it's yet another sign that he is mentally ill.

So yes: I think it is relevent and interesting to note this in a thread about Joe Biden's Presidential candidacy.

And let me be clear: I don't really care if Joe Biden is mentally ill and I'm not saying that he is. It's just very interesting to me that one candidate's flaws are brushed off and the same kinds of flaws in another are signs of the apocalypse.
 
xjx388 said:
... And let me be clear: I don't really care if Joe Biden is mentally ill and I'm not saying that he is. It's just very interesting to me that one candidate's flaws are brushed off and the same kinds of flaws in another are signs of the apocalypse.
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If I have to be led by a person with dementia, better that it be Joe Biden than Papa Doc Duvalier.
 
xjx388 said:
I do.

And let me be clear: I don't really care if Joe Biden is mentally ill and I'm not saying that he is. It's just very interesting to me that one candidate's flaws are brushed off and the same kinds of flaws in another are signs of the apocalypse.
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No one has brushed off such accusations.
 
zorro99 said:
No one has brushed off such accusations.
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Not brushed off the accusations themselves, no. I was referring to those brave, renegade mental health professionals who seem to have appointed themselves the role of vetting our Presidential candidates. One of them at least.
 
What's wrong with Captain Electable's brain isn't what would make him a bad President. What's wrong with the Baby Baboon's brain is a large part of what's making him a bad President.
 
Delvo said:
What's wrong with Captain Electable's brain isn't what would make him a bad President. What's wrong with the Baby Baboon's brain is a large part of what's making him a bad President.
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Ultimately, it doesn't matter if something is "wrong" with their brains; what matters is behavior of the person. I'm very curious as to why behaviors X, Y and Z will make a bad President of one individual but not another.
 
Delphic Oracle said:
Aside from the Reade claim,

A man becoming upset with his partner because of sexual assault is not unheard of. I'd even say "not uncommon."

There's just plain displacement.

But there's also that idea women do the initiating (apperently through some transdimemsional ether).

"You must have been leading him on and took it too far."

"...poor guy."
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Both of the above are true.

But Reade did not tell Dronen that she was sexually assaulted; he said she was sexually harassed. Not the same thing.
 
Reade appears to have quite the history of lying and theft.

“Look, this isn’t about protecting women. This isn’t about the #metoo movement. This isn’t about Joe Biden. This is about truth. Tara Reade stole from me. She lied to me. She stole from my organization. She manipulated me and she duped me. I want that to be shared because it’s important information. And I have documentation, images and emails to prove it.”

— Lynn Hummer, Founder/President of Pregnant Mare Rescue
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“I was duped by [Tara Reade],” Hummer tells us. “I was ripped off by her, not only on a personal level to the tune of $800 or $900, but my organization lost $1400. Those aren’t small betrayals. She’s a master manipulator and it took me a while to figure out.”
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Lynn Hummer never remembers Reade mentioning any sexual assault by Joe Biden, but does recall that she did mention she was a victim of abuse at the hands of her ex-husband.

When it comes to any mention of Biden, Hummer says it was always positive in nature.

Hummer recounts that Reade would say, “You know, I used to work for Biden. I did a great deal of work for him on his campaign.”
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We reached out to Tara Reade for comment on multiple occasions, but she refused. She did, however, address some of Hummer’s claims on Twitter, by threatening legal action and claiming that Hummer was just trying to get money.


“Ask about multiple County citations of animal neglect by this place (PMR) she is trying to get money,” Reade tweeted

It’s worth noting that the emails and bills provided to us, and many of which are seen in this article, seem to corroborate the exact allegations that Reade is threatening to sue Hummer over.

Reade also went on the attack after Hummer made a tweet informing Joan Walsh of The Nation that Reade had stolen from her. Reade seems to strangely accuse Walsh of paying Hummer to manufacture these allegations.

While Reade claims, without any evidence or even details that Hummer “runs scams,” it’s worth noting that Hummer’s organization has 5 star ratings on virtually every online resource available.

They are rated 4.9/5 on Facebook, 5/5 on Google, and 5/5 on greatnonprofits.org.
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The more I learn about Reade, the less credible she becomes.
 
shuttlt said:
There seemed to be quite a few people who remembered her and the events immediately after. I suspect the "something irrelevant" part there. Honestly, if it turns out that this is true, then Biden and the press who support him look hilariously incompetent.
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Nice attempt to turn this around onto Biden. Biden's team could well know about this but are choosing not to comment on it at this time for reasons of their own. It's quite possible that they are compiling evidence of Reade's credibility issues to present later.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
I didn't know women with checkered pasts couldn't be victims of crimes. That's a nice silver lining, I guess.

Seriously, she had a spat with her pseudo-employer over some unpaid bills. Oh lord, she hid a car from the repo man, bring the fainting couches!
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Wow. Someone earlier used the term 'hand waving away'; this is a perfect example of that. This was not "a spat with her pseudo-employer over some unpaid bills". It was theft. Reade charged her $1400 personal vet bills to the rescue organization which her book keeper innocently paid. Reade refused to reimburse the horse rescue. Just because Hummer didn't bring charges does not make that any less a crime.

I note the use of 'pseudo-employer'. Is that some attempt to diminish what Reade did as if it wasn't really so bad? Hummer was never her employer; Reade was a volunteer and therefore not paid wages.

Reade also stole fundraising items:


“Reade had helped me with the fundraiser. She was pilfering off the table and sticking the items under the cloth, under the table, trying to steal and take them home.”

Thomas Bately, who was, and still is a volunteer at PMR, also recalls that night, and Reade’s actions.

What I saw was that she wanted one of the (raffle) prizes, put her ticket in the jar, and then hid the jar until it was time for the drawing. She rigged the drawing so she would get the prize she wanted for the price of one ticket.
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This all goes to Reade's character; she is a liar and a thief. Stop trying to minimize it. It doesn't help your anti-Biden campaign.
 
Stacyhs said:
Wow. Someone earlier used the term 'hand waving away'; this is a perfect example of that. This was not "a spat with her pseudo-employer over some unpaid bills". It was theft. Reade charged her $1400 personal vet bills to the rescue organization which her book keeper innocently paid. Reade refused to reimburse the horse rescue. Just because Hummer didn't bring charges does not make that any less a crime.

I note the use of 'pseudo-employer'. Is that some attempt to diminish what Reade did as if it wasn't really so bad? Hummer was never her employer; Reade was a volunteer and therefore not paid wages.

Reade also stole fundraising items:




This all goes to Reade's character; she is a liar and a thief. Stop trying to minimize it. It doesn't help your anti-Biden campaign.
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Yeah, I mean, a lot of women that get sexually assaulted have made mistakes in their lives and therefore have big credibility issues.

#I’mwithStacy
#Onlybelievetheperfectwomen
 
xjx388 said:
Ultimately, it doesn't matter if something is "wrong" with their brains; what matters is behavior of the person. I'm very curious as to why behaviors X, Y and Z will make a bad President of one individual but not another.
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What are you even trying to say? How do you think Biden compares to Trump? Thousands of people are dead, and many thousands more will die, because Trump continues to lie to the country and himself about the coronavirus crisis. This guy won't even wear a mask in crowds because he doesn't like how it looks. You think that's anythng like Biden's occasionally tangled speech?

And you keep insisting that the shrinks shouldn't say Trump's an obvious lunatic, but you don't claim he's not.
 
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