The Trump Presidency: Part 21

[alfaniner]

What people need to use is an official Donald J. Trump endorsed Sharpie to black out his name before cashing it.

I'm expecting we're going to be seeing some memes where the name is creatively obliterated.

 

[BobTheCoward]

I'm not so sure, not now the world knows a treaty signed by one President can just be torn up by a later one.

Congress already had power to pass a law, and if that law contradicted a treaty, it automatically nullified that part of the treaty. There is not a requirement a treaty be officially revoked.

What country has a rule that the legislature simply can't ignore a treaty when legislating?

 

[Fast Eddie B]

Only the paper checks will have his name on them.

What gets me is that the people who will get the paper checks are those most in need of the money ASAP.

My first instinct was to think someone should seek a restraining order preventing the checks from having Trump’s name on them. Grounds would be that it would be a de facto campaign contribution, giving the false impression that it was somehow Trump “gifting” the money to his “subjects”. But of course he would paint it as evil Democrats delaying needed funds to the poor. So, a “Catch 22”.

Or maybe actually illegal, to wit:

Misuse of Position
An employee may not use his public office for his own private gain or for that of persons or organizations with which he is associated personally. An employee's position or title should not be used to coerce; to endorse any product, service or enterprise; or to give the appearance of governmental sanction. An employee may use his official title and stationery only in response to a request for a reference or recommendation for someone he has dealt with in Federal employment or someone he is recommending for Federal employment.

5 C.F.R. § 2635.702 (see Subpart G - Misuse of Position; Use of Public Office for Private Gain)

 

[Planigale]

Congress already had power to pass a law, and if that law contradicted a treaty, it automatically nullified that part of the treaty. There is not a requirement a treaty be officially revoked.

What country has a rule that the legislature simply can't ignore a treaty when legislating?

All of Europe (including Russia and Turkey)! EU treaty law limits national legislation. European human rights treaty limits national legislation.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Trump Tweets

The Art of an Oil Deal

 

[BobTheCoward]

All of Europe (including Russia and Turkey)! EU treaty law limits national legislation. European human rights treaty limits national legislation.

It seems if we factor in the states we have an analogy closer to federal-state.

But how does it work in Russia?

 

[uke2se]

Trump Tweets

The Art of an Oil Deal

The Fart of the Veal

 

[wareyin]

Have you had to file your taxes already this year to get the money electronically, or just if you have done so in the past?

My stimulus money was deposited this morning, and I had not filed my taxes for this year* yet.


*edited to add: 2019

 

[newyorkguy]

How long until we can get a reporter to ask “is the Treasury Department keeping track of how many cashed checks have the president’s name crossed off?”

My concern is, given Trump's toxic history with U.S. banks, with his name on the check, it may be declined!

 

[Earthborn]

I'm not so sure, not now the world knows a treaty signed by one President can just be torn up by a later one.

The world already kinda knew that since Dubya unsigned the treaty for the International Criminal Court.

 

[newyorkguy]

So Trump says he's granting authority to the governors as to when they open up their state. LOL! He has no power to 'grant authority' over this but it's amusing how he's trying to spin the fact that he was just plain wrong. Remember yesterday when he said he'd have a list of the legal reasons he has "total control" over the governors? He just can't admit he was wrong. Lying putz.

Some reality:

New York, New Jersey and Connecticut are among seven states in the region forming committees to determine proper protocols to reopen the economy in the region as the novel coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic continues to plague the country. The governors from the tristate area joined their counterparts from Pennsylvania, Delaware and Rhode Island in announcing during a conference call on Monday, April 13 that they are forming committees to share information and advice as they look to slowly begin reopening some parts of their economies.

[New York Governor Andrew Cuomo said], “We’re going to study the data, the research of other countries, other states, and this committee will give us guidance and the parameter of what we should do moving forward. We’re going to be smart and cooperative and learn from one another. We’re better together, and that’s inarguable.” Link

Trump? We don't need no stinkin' Trump!

 

[Blue Mountain]

I'm not so sure, not now the world knows a treaty signed by one President can just be torn up by a later one.

It's certainly something everyone needs to consider when doing business with the US. Previously, a new administration could be counted on to uphold the committments made by a previous one. No more.

Oh a lot of people will cry when Trump is gone. Most from relief. However, as other posters note, we now know that we can't trust the US. Trump may have a sensible successor, but his voters are still there. Another Trump can come.

For a long time to come, decades, nations and businesses all over the world will be vare wary when making deals with the US. It will not be enough to have someone else in the WH. The US needs to replace their election system with something that allows less room for populists to take over. - It's not hard, such systems are out there, well-tested and established.

Hans

Excellent points. It appears I'm too much of an optimist.

 

[slyjoe]

My concern is, given Trump's toxic history with U.S. banks, with his name on the check, it may be declined!

The good news is that his name is only in the MEMO portion of the check.

 

[Regnad Kcin]

Standard behavior for all preening dictators. Slow the delivery "by several days" so his name can be added to the check? What, no 'Vote for Me - KAG 2020,' slogan stamped on the checks too? Or was that rejected as being a little bit too much?

What a piece of garbage Trump is.

"Piece?"

 

[turingtest]

Standard behavior for all preening dictators. Slow the delivery "by several days" so his name can be added to the check? What, no 'Vote for Me - KAG 2020,' slogan stamped on the checks too? Or was that rejected as being a little bit too much?

What a piece of garbage Trump is.

"Piece?"

"Garbage"?

 

[Regnad Kcin]

He's adopted my system for training cats. You can have a cat that obeys every order. The key is to order them to do what you know they're about to do anyways.

"Jump up on the counter! Good Cat! Now lick you butthole! Good Cat!"

"Jump up on the counter! Good Trump! Now lick your butthole! Good Trump!"

I like it.

 

[timhau]

All of Europe (including Russia and Turkey)! EU treaty law limits national legislation. European human rights treaty limits national legislation.

It seems if we factor in the states we have an analogy closer to federal-state.

But how does it work in Russia?

It doesn't.

 

[Armitage72]

Some reality:


Trump? We don't need no stinkin' Trump!

Yesterday a coworker started ranting at the end of a conference call (working remotely).

"The Governors had no problem coming to Trump with their hand out, begging for masks and respirators. Now they're saying they don't need to listen to him about when to reopen. I have news for them. The Constitution says he absolutely does have the power to make them reopen."

(Click) Back to work and let the other person still on the call listen to him.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Trump Tweets

Our GREAT Senator from South Carolina, @SenatorTimScott just released a fantastic new book, “OPPORTUNITY KNOCKS: How Hard Work, Community, and Business Can Improve Lives and End Poverty.” Get your copy today!

My condolences to the Steinbrenner family, and the entire @Yankees Organization, on the passing of Hank Steinbrenner. He was a friend and will be missed greatly by all!

ThanksForDelivering @UPS!
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[Bob001]

Yesterday a coworker started ranting at the end of a conference call (working remotely).

"The Governors had no problem coming to Trump with their hand out, begging for masks and respirators. Now they're saying they don't need to listen to him about when to reopen. I have news for them. The Constitution says he absolutely does have the power to make them reopen."
....

If you hear from him again, ask him where the Constitution supports his claim. He'll be looking for a long time.