Biden for President?

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Bob001 said:
I note once again that tax-supported state colleges and universities were created to make higher education available to everybody. Until the '80s they were cheap enough that most kids could work their way through, and some were tuition-free, like the California system and City College of NY. Having to take out five- and six-figure loans to get a BA is a recent development. An educated population is widely considered a net benefit to the society. Restoring the level of public support that used to be considered routine would go a long way toward solving the problem, and it would hardly be some extremist fantasy. And even if people are already out of school, it would benefit their kids.
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Public funding for universities hasn't decreased. The cost on education has increased. It far outpaced inflation for decades. That's what needs fixing.
 
Ziggurat said:
Public funding for universities hasn't decreased. The cost on education has increased. It far outpaced inflation for decades. That's what needs fixing.
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It's true enough that costs have outpaced inflation, for multiple reasons. But public funding of higher education has indisputably been reduced, which is one of the reasons that the price for students has increased.
Most Americans believe state spending for public universities and colleges has, in fact, increased or at least held steady over the last 10 years, according to a new survey by American Public Media.

They’re wrong. States have collectively scaled back their annual higher education funding by $9 billion during that time, when adjusted for inflation, the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, or CBPP, reports
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https://www.pbs.org/newshour/educat...-state-funding-for-higher-ed-fell-by-billions

Deep state cuts in funding for higher education over the last decade have contributed to rapid, significant tuition increases and pushed more of the costs of college to students, making it harder for them to enroll and graduate. These cuts also have worsened racial and class inequality, since rising tuition can deter low-income students and students of color from college.
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Etc.
 
applecorped said:
yay biden
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Back to Biden. I have not seen a recent poll, and I'm curious how much of a lead he has compared to Trump?
 
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wasapi said:
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Back to Biden. I have not seen a recent poll, and I'm curious how much of a lead he has compared to Trump?
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Bernie verses Trump would have been a more interesting race.
 
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Delvo said:
You might say a Trump win is letting 2 more Supreme Court members get appointed by the Republicans
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I think this is an issue that the left should not lose sight of. We are on the brink of losing the Supreme Court for a generation, if it isn't already lost. The next president will likely pick Ruth Bader Ginsburg's replacement. If it's Trump, it'll be another justice in the mold of Gorsuch and Kavanaugh. With Biden it could be someone like Sotomayor or Kagan. With 6 conservatives, 5 of them solid, there won't even be a swing vote who might be a 5th vote for the liberal side occasionally. Say goodbye to Roe v. Wade.
 
Puppycow said:
I think this is an issue that the left should not lose sight of. We are on the brink of losing the Supreme Court for a generation, if it isn't already lost. The next president will likely pick Ruth Bader Ginsburg's replacement. If it's Trump, it'll be another justice in the mold of Gorsuch and Kavanaugh. With Biden it could be someone like Sotomayor or Kagan. With 6 conservatives, 5 of them solid, there won't even be a swing vote who might be a 5th vote for the liberal side occasionally. Say goodbye to Roe v. Wade.
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You'll be lucky if it's along those lines - the next one will start their project of overturning Brown v. Board.

(Think I'm kidding? Take a look at how John Roberts Started.)
 
rockysmith76 said:
Bernie verses Trump would have been a more interesting race.
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It is pretty glaring how many conservatives are and were practically begging for this match-up. Trump himself (a man not known for taking the hard way) has been clamoring to run against Sanders for both his elections.
 
wareyin said:
It is pretty glaring how many conservatives are and were practically begging for this match-up. Trump himself (a man not known for taking the hard way) has been clamoring to run against Sanders for both his elections.
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Ahh yes, the wild speculation of our political enemies, Truth from the heavens. These people don't have any special knowledge about how such a match-up would unfold.

Keep in mind the DNC was practically jumping for joy when Trump won the nomination. HRC vs Trump was going to be an easy win, if you recall.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
Ahh yes, the wild speculation of our political enemies, Truth from the heavens. These people don't have any special knowledge about how such a match-up would unfold.

Keep in mind the DNC was practically jumping for joy when Trump won the nomination. HRC vs Trump was going to be an easy win, if you recall.
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Yes, the DNC couldn't have predicted Comey's October Surprise, the Russian assistance, etc, yet still Clinton won more votes.

Sanders? He couldn't muster the votes to win in the primaries and polls consistently show him behind or far behind Trump in battleground states. Of course he would be easier to beat.
 
wareyin said:
It is pretty glaring how many conservatives are and were practically begging for this match-up. Trump himself (a man not known for taking the hard way) has been clamoring to run against Sanders for both his elections.
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Ill thank you not to presume my political leanings.
 
wareyin said:
Yes, the DNC couldn't have predicted Comey's October Surprise, the Russian assistance, etc, yet still Clinton won more votes.

Sanders? He couldn't muster the votes to win in the primaries and polls consistently show him behind or far behind Trump in battleground states. Of course he would be easier to beat.
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Hmm, no mention of Clinton's campaign failures again. Only external forces. Curious.

Did the Russians force Hillary not to campaign hard in pivotal battleground states?
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
Ahh yes, the wild speculation of our political enemies, Truth from the heavens. These people don't have any special knowledge about how such a match-up would unfold.

Keep in mind the DNC was practically jumping for joy when Trump won the nomination. HRC vs Trump was going to be an easy win, if you recall.
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Then a whole bunch of complacent dems stayed home and here we are.
 
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