Why Trump will be reelected

[Upchurch]

Because people would rather suffer, and let other people suffer, than admit they made a mistake.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

It is Trump's election to lose...
but if he is constantly seen as acting unpresidential in a time of crisis, voters won't mind swapping him out for another model.

 

[Upchurch]

but if he is constantly seen as acting unpresidential in a time of crisis, voters won't mind swapping him out for another model.

That’s where I think you’re wrong. Trump has been acting like a whiny, self-interested, spoiled brat throughout the crisis, not to mention spreading misinformation, and his approval numbers have risen to their highest point since just after the inauguration.

Maybe that will wear off as months of this thing drag on, but I doubt it. We aren’t talking about people objectively evaluating Trump’s performance as a president. We’re talking about faith.

 

[Segnosaur]

That’s where I think you’re wrong. Trump has been acting like a whiny, self-interested, spoiled brat throughout the crisis, not to mention spreading misinformation, and his approval numbers have risen to their highest point since just after the inauguration.



Maybe that will wear off as months of this thing drag on, but I doubt it. We aren’t talking about people objectively evaluating Trump’s performance as a president. We’re talking about faith.

It's true.. his approval ratings have increased in some recent polls. Which is admittedly not a good sign. But....

- the approval ratings for other presidents have also gone up during times of emergency. But with Trump, even with a pandemic that could affect millions, most polls STILL have his approval ratings under water.

- some polls have already shown his "bump" in approval has started to decrease

- a recent poll showed that over 60% felt trump was unprepared for the pandemic. There does seem to be a logical disconnect there... Some voters are saying. "I approve of the president but he is screwing up". That may be a problem on election day

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[JoeMorgue]

Approval rating doesn't matter because Trump's has always been underwater.

He's never had a majority of support.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

That’s where I think you’re wrong. Trump has been acting like a whiny, self-interested, spoiled brat throughout the crisis, not to mention spreading misinformation, and his approval numbers have risen to their highest point since just after the inauguration.

Maybe that will wear off as months of this thing drag on, but I doubt it. We aren’t talking about people objectively evaluating Trump’s performance as a president. We’re talking about faith.

Sure, plenty of people loved that he kept pissing off professional politicians and experts - but now those are the people they need.
They seriously don't want to see two hours of the Trump Show, they want to hear from Fauci and Brix.
And they don't want to hear how unfair Trump feels he is being treated when they don't have tests or jobs or hospitals bed or respirators.

Biden can fake compassion much better than Trump can.

 

[The Don]

Approval rating doesn't matter because Trump's has always been underwater.

He's never had a majority of support.

The key for the GOP is to suppress voter turnout so that the keener GOP voters are the majority of those who turn out in key states because they know that if turnout is high, he won't be reelected.

 

[Trebuchet]

That’s where I think you’re wrong. Trump has been acting like a whiny, self-interested, spoiled brat throughout the crisis, not to mention spreading misinformation, and his approval numbers have risen to their highest point since just after the inauguration.

Maybe that will wear off as months of this thing drag on, but I doubt it. We aren’t talking about people objectively evaluating Trump’s performance as a president. We’re talking about faith.

And he was acting like that throughout the runup to the 2016 election, and won it.

 

[dudalb]

It's true.. his approval ratings have increased in some recent polls. Which is admittedly not a good sign. But....

- the approval ratings for other presidents have also gone up during times of emergency. But with Trump, even with a pandemic that could affect millions, most polls STILL have his approval ratings under water.

- some polls have already shown his "bump" in approval has started to decrease

- a recent poll showed that over 60% felt trump was unprepared for the pandemic. There does seem to be a logical disconnect there... Some voters are saying. "I approve of the president but he is screwing up". That may be a problem on election day

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Over the last couple of days his "bump" in polling have pretty much vanished.
And when the horrific images from across the country start coming in, as they will, his nmber witk thake ahuge hit.
Oh he will still have that 40% who will support any Republican, abut I think the virus is going to change the whole political picture.

 

[dudalb]

And he was acting like that throughout the runup to the 2016 election, and won it.

Sorry, but I think you are underestimating the impact that the virus is going to have on the country. We have not even seen the worst of it yet.

 

[dudalb]

The key for the GOP is to suppress voter turnout so that the keener GOP voters are the majority of those who turn out in key states because they know that if turnout is high, he won't be reelected.

SO democracy in the US is dead?

 

[dudalb]

I think the GOP is delbiertly pushing a
we are invincible narrative to wreck the morale of their opponents, and from some posters here it is working.

 

[Stacyhs]

Trump's overall approval rating as of today from 538:

Disapprove: 49.9%
Approve: 45.8%

Trump's coronavirus response:

An ABC News/Ipsos poll released Friday, 47 percent of Americans approve of Trump’s coronavirus response, while 52 percent of Americans disapprove — a steep drop from the same poll taken just two weeks ago when a whopping 55 percent approved of Trump’s response.

And in Trump’s favorite survey, the Trump-skewing Rasmussen daily tracking poll, his approval rating has dropped four points in a matter of days. The last time Trump was above water in that poll was Feb. 27, when his approval was at 52 percent. But he began this week with a -5 point net unfavorability, and finishes it nine points underwater with 44 percent approving and 53 percent disapproving.

https://www.mediaite.com/news/new-p...-show-him-underwater-on-coronavirus-response/

 

[wasapi]

Sure, plenty of people loved that he kept pissing off professional politicians and experts - but now those are the people they need.
They seriously don't want to see two hours of the Trump Show, they want to hear from Fauci and Brix.
And they don't want to hear how unfair Trump feels he is being treated when they don't have tests or jobs or hospitals bed or respirators.

Biden can fake compassion much better than Trump can.

Biden has felt compassion in his life, where as Trump has no idea what compassion is or feels like.

 

[Stacyhs]

Biden has felt compassion in his life, where as Trump has no idea what compassion is or feels like.

The only thing Trump knows about compassion is that the word 'ass' is in it. It brings up images of Stormy and a magazine.

 

[Horatius]

Trump's overall approval rating as of today from 538:

Disapprove: 49.9%
Approve: 45.8%

Trump's coronavirus response:

https://www.mediaite.com/news/new-p...-show-him-underwater-on-coronavirus-response/

Is there anywhere we can get a breakdown on what questions were asked in such polls?

An ABC News/Ipsos poll released Friday, 47 percent of Americans approve of Trump’s coronavirus response, while 52 percent of Americans disapprove

I mean, does a simple yes or no question really get into the nitty-gritty of what people think of Trump, and what he's been doing?

I mean, I could see a lot of people thinking, "Okay, he's doing some of the things I want him to do, so I "approve" of his actual actions. But of course, there's a lot more that should be done, and he should have started a lot earlier!" Would someone like that be expected to vote for him?

 

[Stacyhs]

Good questions. You'd have to see the poll questions themselves and I don't know where you can find them. Perhaps someone else does.

 

[turingtest]

Sure, plenty of people loved that he kept pissing off professional politicians and experts - but now those are the people they need.
They seriously don't want to see two hours of the Trump Show, they want to hear from Fauci and Brix.And they don't want to hear how unfair Trump feels he is being treated when they don't have tests or jobs or hospitals bed or respirators.

Biden can fake compassion much better than Trump can.

I saw an article a day or so ago about one of the Trump sons (the numpty one, Eric, I think) complaining that some of the networks have quit broadcasting Trump's daily "pandemic briefings," and claiming they were being unpatriotic by doing so. Sorry, chief- they aren't briefings about the pandemic anymore, they're daily slaver-fests, where guys like that My Pillow idiot take turns in a suck-up line; just substitutes for the campaign rallies your dad's bottomless ego needs and can't get right now.

 

[theprestige]

If Biden is going to be the nominee, Obama might as well go all in.

He's the subtext of Biden's campaign. If Obama shows his face and Biden starts putting ads out comparing job growth under his man Obama vs Trump, that could give him a boost.

After eight years of Presidentin' it seems that Barack Obama has quit the life.

 

[JoeMorgue]

SO democracy in the US is dead?

No.

It's hurt enough that I don't have full confidence in it right now. That's not the same as declaring it dead and making yet another backhanded request for someone to finally go ahead and start the revolution.