Cont: 2019-nCoV / Corona virus Pt 3

[Planigale]

I didn't say CPAP wasn't helpful.

This sounds very condescending: "The physiology of CPAP and gas exchange is complex and I am not going to explain it."

Did you mean it that way?

Sorry, I was just going out to do a long day on our covid ward and didn't have time to give a long explanation of difficult physiology, I have just got back and don't have time before bed.

 

[Planigale]

Nothing on that page says 3 months. It does say this at the beginning that applies to everyone:

You can believe me or not. I am here telling people that they can go home but they have to stay home for the next 3 months.

From the government site'

This advice will be in place for at least the next 12 weeks.

 

[Planigale]

That makes sense, that CPAP would be helpful in cases where respiration is somewhat but not completely impaired. I wouldn’t guess that personal CPAP machines are rated for high O2 levels, though: I’d be concerned about fire hazard. I’m sure that’s taken into account.

We discourage smoking on oxygen!

The oxygen is put in on the patient side of the machine, given the direction of airflow there is no extra oxygen going through the machine.

 

[Planigale]

Interesting, thanks.

Just curious though, what is the average length of time a person stays on a ventilator or CPAP device if you had to guess? Just for Covid-19 that is...

Can't give you an average; days, we are thinking about seven. Nutrition is a big issue, we are putting down feeding tubes so patients can get nutrition despite having a mask over their face. Though some can manage off CPAP for brief breaks.

 

[Trebuchet]

That makes sense, that CPAP would be helpful in cases where respiration is somewhat but not completely impaired. I wouldn’t guess that personal CPAP machines are rated for high O2 levels, though: I’d be concerned about fire hazard. I’m sure that’s taken into account.

There's also an intermediate level, Non-Invasive Ventilation which was called BiPap when my wife was on it 10 years ago. It varies between inhalation and exhalation but does not require intubation like a ventilator.

I did look up use of CPAP with O2 and apparently that's doable with most machines, though probably not at high levels.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Sorry, I was just going out to do a long day on our covid ward and didn't have time to give a long explanation of difficult physiology, I have just got back and don't have time before bed.

What makes you think anyone needed an explanation?

You quoted me and I certainly didn't.

 

[casebro]

There is a study, not peer reviewed at this point, that suggests a relationship between blood type and likelihood/severity of Covid-19.

Would be interesting if it turns out to be factual.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.11.20031096v1

I believe it was posted several days ago. Its another case of "significant"not meaning important. It means statistically repeatable. IIRC, type A has about umm 85% the chance of the other types.

 

[angrysoba]

What makes you think anyone needed an explanation?

You quoted me and I certainly didn't.

Jesus. Give her a break. Did you not see where she wrote she’s on the frontlines of this?

 

[smartcooky]

It seems there is no limit to the scumbaggery some people will stoop to, including fake covid-19 stimulus package cheques

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article241560586.html#storylink=moresection

This business should be prosecuted for fraud

 

[a_unique_person]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03...rs-barbers-salons-haircuts-explainer/12092242


The big debate, to keep hairdressers open or not?

 

[Samson]

Jesus. Give him a break. Did you not see where he wrote he’s on the frontlines of this?

She

 

[angrysoba]

She

Oh, sorry Planigale. She.

 

[Steve]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03...rs-barbers-salons-haircuts-explainer/12092242


The big debate, to keep hairdressers open or not?

Closed here for more than a week. Should be an easy decision.

 

[eeyore1954]

That goes without saying.



Yes.

But why not look at infection rates, instead? Less convenient?

No because the increase in infections is partly because of increased testing.
I expect in the long run the death rate in the US to increase dramatically. I believe it will have little to do with the health care system.

 

[eeyore1954]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03...rs-barbers-salons-haircuts-explainer/12092242


The big debate, to keep hairdressers open or not?

I live in Suffolk County NY we had an appointment for one of our dogs to be clipped. They initially canceled when only essential businesses could stay open. They called today and said they were now allowed to be open. I assume they got an exemption and dog groomers are essential now.
Although I think NY is going to get stricter on the shutdown.

Hairdressers are still non essential in NY.

 

[novaphile]

Latest figures from Australia.

(From Johns Hopkins):

State | Confirmed | Deaths | Recovered | Active
New South Wales |

1,405​

|

7​

|

4​

|

1,394​

|
Victoria |

574​

|

3​

|

171​

|

400​

|
Queensland |

555​

|

1​

|

8​

|

546​

|
Western Australia |

231​

|

2​

|

1​

|

228​

|
South Australia |

257​

|

0​

|

6​

|

251​

|
Tasmania |

47​

|

0​

|

3​

|

44​

|
Australian Capital Territory |

62​

|

0​

|

1​

|

61​

|
Northern Territory |

12​

|

0​

|

0​

|

12​

|
Total |

3,143​

|

13​

|

194​

|

2,936​

|

Note: Australia is testing a lot (more than 100,000 tests performed) and testing is not driving up the numbers (i.e. roughly 3% positive tests). Isolation and social distancing seem to be helping us keep everything under control.

Especially as we're now not allowing overseas arrivals to [not] self-isolate.

 

[Meadmaker]

In reversal, Trump uses federal act for virus aid



I'm sure there is something sinister going on that escapes me at the moment.

Phooey. I just realized I was in the apolitical thread. Now to edit:

General Motors and Ventec began working on ventilators, agreeing to go ahead with production without waiting for the federal government. Some time later, they were contacted to inform them that the President had invoked the Defense Production Act, compelling the companies to do what the companies had decided.

So, at least one industrial giant is going to try to start cranking out the supplies.

 

[Delphic Oracle]

Still just shy of 100k active in U.S. Just a matter of hours.

We have ~22.9% of the world's active cases. We are ~4.25% of the global population.

 

[The Atheist]

The big debate, to keep hairdressers open or not?

You'd think a strong "no" would be in order, but Aussie plays to its own tune.

Note: Australia is testing a lot (more than 100,000 tests performed) and testing is not driving up the numbers (i.e. roughly 3% positive tests). Isolation and social distancing seem to be helping us keep everything under control.

Especially as we're now not allowing overseas arrivals to [not] self-isolate.

I don't believe Aussie has been doing social distancing well at all. Hairdressers open, racing still going, thousands at the beach, so I don't believe that's any of the factor. You haven't even closed schools.

Sun, vitamin D, slower spread in summer... there's going to be a reason for it somewhere. There are other possibilities as well.

 

[GraculusTheGreenBird]

Well duh. They recently had a deadly illness.

Well no, not duh.

If you had bothered to read the article:

"Previous studies have indicated that the new coronavirus could bind with ACE2, a receptor protein cell, a large number of which are concentrated in the testicles.
Li Yufeng, a professor of reproductive medicine at Tongji Hospital in Wuhan, had predicted in a study that the testicles could become a major target of the coronavirus attack."

So it would be specifically due to this virus, not just because they had a deadly illness of some kind.