The Trump Presidency: Part 20

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Segnosaur said:
You would think that they would be smart enough to recognize the problems with the economy caused by an uncontrolled virus... but markets have also gone up when Trump first took over, and although he did cut taxes and regulations, those would have provided at best a temporary boost (and made later recessions much worse).

If stock traders were smart, they would recognize how inept Trump was the moment he won the election, and the markets would have started to drop right away.
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I don’t understand your reasoning. Why should the markets have immediately gone down? They knew he was inept, but an inept president doesn’t necessarily mean the market should go down. The stock market rewards short-term thinking and President Trump does nothing but that.
 
turingtest said:
Yep. Remember when the candidate promised (among other things) "great health care [coverage], at a fraction of the cost"; and, for people who couldn't afford the coverage at all, that "the government is going to pay for it"? I'll bet a lot of people who believed those promises and voted accordingly are wishing now the President would have been dong more than just mouthing words; and I'd bet there are lot of insurance companies who are smirking now because they knew all along that mouthing words is all it ever was.
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You might not win that bet. A fair number will simply blame the liberals for preventing President Trump from implementing a health care plan as perfect as the phone call.

It’s hard to undrink the Kool-Aid.
 
Mader Levap said:
Whine whine whine. Some Fuhrer he is. Was Hitler that whiny too? We will never know, since Twitter didn't yet exist in 1932.

Stacyhs said:
Those around Hitler where just as scared to contradict him as the toadies surrounding Trump.
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And really, yeah, Hitler actually did act a lot like Trump in that regard. He constantly denigrated and disdained the media (while suddenly becoming happy when there was a positive article published). He had no tolerance at all for being the butt of a joke and constantly mocked others in much the same fashions that Trump does.

If Hitler had access to Twitter, it would be no surprise for him to be practically a mirror of Trump. As it is, there are archived newspapers that could be gone through that covered much of this behavior.

Skeptic Ginger said:
I'll have to find out what the details of that are but honestly, these guys think people won't want to go back to work? How many people could that possibly effect? They can't get out of their habits believing all poor people would be lazy leeches if given a chance.
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Motivated logic. That poor people are poor because they're lazy stereotype has long been weaponized by the rich as an excuse/justification to make themselves feel better. If only all those poor people would just get a tiny million dollar loan from daddy and become a successful businessman like a certain someone has demonstrated for us all, they wouldn't be poor, after all.

Skeptic Ginger said:
Lazy leeching rich people, of course, don't exist. :rolleyes:
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Honestly, if one thinks about it in terms of projection, that might explain things remarkably well.


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Cease & Desist: We're not allowed to quote Trump.

Trump's lawyers are going after an ad that just plays relevant soundbites of his. On what basis?

Their specific objection is to the inclusion of Trump saying “this is their new hoax.” The lawyer’s argument is that though Trump said “hoax,” Trump meant “politicization,” and that since Trump meant a totally different word than the one he used, that we’re not allowed to quote him.
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Mmm. Honestly, if the complain was actually valid, I'd support it, albeit with a heavy reminder that they should be more concerned about the log in their eye than the speck of dust in the other person's eye.

It's not valid, though, of course.

Matt Gaetz wrongfully decided to attack money going to a COVID-19 treatment facility in the relief bill. The other kicker? That treatment facility is about 2 miles away from his office.

Oh, and lest you think that the other bad stuff the Trump Administration is doing has been preempted, well...

Walmart Was Almost Charged Criminally Over Opioids. Trump Appointees Killed the Indictment.

Even as company pharmacists protested, Walmart kept filling suspicious prescriptions, stoking the country’s opioid epidemic. A Republican U.S. Attorney in Texas thought the evidence was damning. Trump’s political appointees? Not so much.
 
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Aridas said:
...To poke elsewhere...

Cease & Desist: We're not allowed to quote Trump.

Trump's lawyers are going after an ad that just plays relevant soundbites of his. On what basis?
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On SLAPP (strategic lawsuit against public participation) basis of course. Who needs an actual basis?

Aridas said:
..Mmm. Honestly, if the complain was actually valid, I'd support it, albeit with a heavy reminder that they should be more concerned about the log in their eye than the speck of dust in the other person's eye.

It's not valid, though, of course.

Matt Gaetz wrongfully decided to attack money going to a COVID-19 treatment facility in the relief bill. The other kicker? That treatment facility is about 2 miles away from his office.

Oh, and lest you think that the other bad stuff the Trump Administration is doing has been preempted, well...

Walmart Was Almost Charged Criminally Over Opioids. Trump Appointees Killed the Indictment.

Even as company pharmacists protested, Walmart kept filling suspicious prescriptions, stoking the country’s opioid epidemic. A Republican U.S. Attorney in Texas thought the evidence was damning. Trump’s political appointees? Not so much.
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Anyone that greases his palm I suspect.
 
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Aridas said:
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Trump's lawyers are going after an ad that just plays relevant soundbites of his. On what basis?

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Their specific objection is to the inclusion of Trump saying “this is their new hoax.” The lawyer’s argument is that though Trump said “hoax,” Trump meant “politicization,” and that since Trump meant a totally different word than the one he used, that we’re not allowed to quote him.
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Mmm. Honestly, if the complain was actually valid, I'd support it, albeit with a heavy reminder that they should be more concerned about the log in their eye than the speck of dust in the other person's eye
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What a pile of crap. Trump said 'hoax' and he meant 'hoax'.
 
Stacyhs said:
What a pile of crap. Trump said 'hoax' and he meant 'hoax'.
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To be fair, trump just says stuff and half the time it doesn't even make sense.

"Mr. President, do you think calling it the 'China-Virus' may cause a stigma"
"No, I think China saying it was us who caused the virus causes a stigma"

It should get him into more trouble than it does, but no one can really keep up with the sheer volume of his bull ****
 
Ladewig said:
I don’t understand your reasoning. Why should the markets have immediately gone down? They knew he was inept, but an inept president doesn’t necessarily mean the market should go down. The stock market rewards short-term thinking and President Trump does nothing but that.
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The stock market actually rewards long-term thinking, but it attracts a huge amount of people (both professional and amateur, smart and dumb as rocks) who think they can beat it on the short term.
 
I always wonder about Trump. What's he really think? He talks about going by his "gut." What would his gut be telling him now?

That being president is working out the same way as the football league, the airline, the casinos? Good start, many people praising him, everything seems great and then...everything goes down the tubes. Isn't that the story of his life? Wouldn't his gut being telling him that? That's what my gut is telling me. ;)
 
AnonyMoose said:
Ever notice how the same people who say they voted for Trump because he says what he means, have spent the last 3 years explaining that he didn't mean what he said?
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Either he was "taken out of context" or he was "joking" or I've even heard "we all know he lies so why even take him serious"......all from his supporters, including the last one about lies.
 
AnonyMoose said:
Ever notice how the same people who say they voted for Trump because he says what he means, have spent the last 3 years explaining that he didn't mean what he said?
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Never had a long discussion with a religious person have you?

Everything their God says is an immutable fact except the stuff that obviously isn't because that has to be "interpreted" and which things are which can and will change constantly with no rhyme and reason.
 
I've been engaged in a FB discussion this week with an acquaintance from grade school who has assured me no one could be handling this crisis any better than Donald Trump has, and that he's made good on every promise on which he campaigned.
 
The Shrike said:
I've been engaged in a FB discussion this week with an acquaintance from grade school who has assured me no one could be handling this crisis any better than Donald Trump has, and that he's made good on every promise on which he campaigned.
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That's the kind of nonsense grade-schoolers would think is true.
 
The Shrike said:
I've been engaged in a FB discussion this week with an acquaintance from grade school who has assured me no one could be handling this crisis any better than Donald Trump has, and that he's made good on every promise on which he campaigned.
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Did you ask him why we’re paying for the “wall” instead of Mexico?

Or why Trump has spent nearly a third of his presidency golfing, at his own properties at our expense? After saying he’d be “too busy” to golf?

Or why North Korea has acquired a robust nuclear launch capability on his watch?

Or… Oh, never mind. Just tell him he’s an idiot and be done with it.
 
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