Cont: 2019-nCoV / Corona virus Pt 3

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The governor of Tokyo is now requesting that people in the city don't go out at the weekend except for essential visits.

The problem is that cherry-blossom season is beginning and a lot of crowds are expected.

We've all seen this movie before and I am pretty sure the request will fall on deaf ears.

The news is at least informing people that numbers are likely to explode.
 
angrysoba said:
The governor of Tokyo is now requesting that people in the city don't go out at the weekend except for essential visits.

The problem is that cherry-blossom season is beginning and a lot of crowds are expected.

We've all seen this movie before and I am pretty sure the request will fall on deaf ears.

The news is at least informing people that numbers are likely to explode.
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I don't know, the Japanese are a very orderly and civic-minded people. Such a request might work for them.
 
angrysoba said:
The governor of Tokyo is now requesting that people in the city don't go out at the weekend except for essential visits.

The problem is that cherry-blossom season is beginning and a lot of crowds are expected.

We've all seen this movie before and I am pretty sure the request will fall on deaf ears.

The news is at least informing people that numbers are likely to explode.
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So don't request; enforce.
 
Ziggurat said:
I don't know, the Japanese are a very orderly and civic-minded people. Such a request might work for them.
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It could do. I certainly think that the slower climb is in part due to certain cultural practices that range from hygiene to ways of greeting and even to mask wearing.

Oh, and the fact that they shut all the schools.

That said, the schools are due to reopen for the new academic year beginning in early April.



Belz... said:
So don't request; enforce.
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The governor of Tokyo has no power to enforce.
 
Belz... said:
No but he ask the government to help.

My comment was general.
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She - Yuriko Koike.

Certainly, the Japanese government will have to make a decision at some point soon about increasing restrictions on movement, but this is a government that until yesterday still thought the Olympics was going to be on this year.

Now that that distraction has passed they may be able to focus more.
 
It would help to give people a reasonable alternative. Are there government-run television channels in Japan?

If so, devote one to cherry blossoms. Twelve hours a day. Six two-person roving camera crews, some directors in a studio/van, and the necessary technicians. No chatter. No celebrities. No commercials. Music optional.

Not as good as being there, but better than any standard TV or Internet alternative version.
 
Belz... said:
****! I didn't check and assumed that, it being in Japan, it'd be a man. Mea culpa.
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It's usually a pretty safe assumption to make.

By the way, also on the Japan front, one of Japan's most famous comedians (your wife is sure to know who he is), Ken Shimura, has tested positive for COVID-19 and now has pneumonia. At 70, he's pretty high risk.

This is a sample of his comedy which may be somewhat intelligible to non-Japanese-speakers:

 
Jackson Browne has apparently tested positive for coronavirus.

Brought this verse from “Before the Deluge” to mind...

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angrysoba said:
The governor of Tokyo is now requesting that people in the city don't go out at the weekend except for essential visits.
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Weekends?

Reading this I thought "Japan is ok if they have weekends!"

For us it only matters when school goes back online after our 'spring break'. Otherwise, weekends don't mean anything anymore.
 
Sherkeu said:
Weekends?

Reading this I thought "Japan is ok if they have weekends!"

For us it only matters when school goes back online after our 'spring break'. Otherwise, weekends don't mean anything anymore.
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Ha! I know what you mean.

Yes, things are basically going on more or less as before, but there are requests to avoid various kinds of activities.

Municipal gyms and museums and other stuff that local and central governments can control are more or less shut down. That includes schools, or at least it did, but they are due to open again.

The thing is people are getting complacent given that here in Japan we haven't shot off the end of ramp yet like so many other countries.

I remember a few weeks ago my sisters in England and in France assuming we had been locked down, when all that was going on was school closures. Then the countries they lived in seemed to blow right past us. I was pretty surprised that they had still been going to crowded pubs, international rugby matches, restaurants, church etc... and treating it as no big thing to.... complete lockdown. Things happened very quickly (but not quickly enough!).

But yes, Japan still has workdays and weekends, but I really do think it is going to move the same way, and in Japan that could be severe given that we have the oldest population in the world here.
 
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...home-testing-to-be-made-available-within-days - apparently antibody test kits will be widely available very soon

if this is accurate (the report, and the test) then this is both very good news and possibly bad news. The good part of it should be fairly obvious, but the bad part is I can see it causing mayhem, getting hold of the test but mainly also people starting to go out and socialise again will mean lots of people will just start claiming they've taken the test and come out positive...this needs to be managed extremely carefully, which is something our govt and many others are spectacularly failing at so far
 
Number of deaths in USA continues to accelerate. It is so terrifying that the USA administration appears committed to loosen restrictions under these circumstances and even before we will be anywhere close to having enough masks and testing kits. Many European countries still increasing but not accelerating. Still looks as if Italy may have finally begun to get some level of control:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...ion=click&module=Most Popular&pgtype=Homepage

China still stands out as to a successful response after initial failures. Ironically Iran looks like they are starting to be successful, but I have no reason to trust those numbers.
 
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Giordano said:
Number of deaths in USA continues to accelerate. It is so terrifying that the USA administration appears committed to loosen restrictions under these circumstances and even before we will be anywhere close to having enough masks and testing kits. Many European countries still increasing but not accelerating. Still looks as if Italy may have finally begun to get some level of control:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...ion=click&module=Most Popular&pgtype=Homepage

China still stands out as to a successful response after initial failures. Ironically Iran looks like they are starting to be successful, but I have no reason to trust those numbers.
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Iran is a very odd case. It was pretty clear that even as they began to get large numbers, there were unofficial reports that they had had many, many more deaths than reported, sometimes orders of magnitude out.

I think it is really difficult to know what's going on there other than however bad it is being reported it is much worse.
 
DreadNiK said:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...home-testing-to-be-made-available-within-days - apparently antibody test kits will be widely available very soon

if this is accurate (the report, and the test) then this is both very good news and possibly bad news. The good part of it should be fairly obvious, but the bad part is I can see it causing mayhem, getting hold of the test but mainly also people starting to go out and socialise again will mean lots of people will just start claiming they've taken the test and come out positive...this needs to be managed extremely carefully, which is something our govt and many others are spectacularly failing at so far
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But at least with something else in short supply for the general public's attention to be fixated on getting access to, loo roll might be available again!
 
angrysoba said:
Ha! I know what you mean.
But yes, Japan still has workdays and weekends, but I really do think it is going to move the same way, and in Japan that could be severe given that we have the oldest population in the world here.
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I recall a recent documentary covering the problem of increasing numbers of elder parents in Japan going to 'homes' instead of traditionally living with their kids/grandkids. They mentioned how nurses had to be imported - I think from the Philippines.
Perhaps a blessing in disguise for the spread. Arguably not something you would do purposely though.
 
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capsid said:
It may be different in the UK, but here the medication is Avlocor https://www.medicines.org.uk/emc/product/5490/pil
It's prescription-only for malaria for human use, but fishkeepers order it online

It's not a tank cleaner, it's a specific fish treatment that can cure white spot and velvet disease which are ectoparasites.

So it's the human drug that is used in the UK, there is no specific drug for fish only. Might be different in USA?

Ninja'd by Giordano #3256
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Just want to add that in the US the FDA does regulate the manufacture of pharmaceuticals for animals, too. Frequently they are made on the same production lines. So, you can pretty safely assume that drugs for fish are about as pure as any similar human drugs.
 
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