The Trump Presidency: Part 20

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Fast Eddie B said:
Going on right now.

Trying to frame it as an external threat is nauseating.

It reminds me of the trope: “The calls are coming from inside the house!”

Every time Trump and his flunkies brag on stopping Chinese travel early on, I want to add “BUT IT DIDN'T WORK!!!” Stipulated it may have delayed our outbreak, in the long run I don’t think it had much of an effect on “flattening the curve”, just delaying it. Which could have been valuable had the time gained had been spent intelligently. But was it?

It’s spooky watching with the cases and deaths updating real time on the screen - US deaths just jumped from 197 to 204, with total cases up to 15,771.
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It didn't. It did the opposite, led to the dangerous guideline to only test people who had known contacts with infected people.

March 1st; NYTs: Coronavirus May Have Spread in U.S. for Weeks, Gene Sequencing Suggests
Two cases detected weeks apart in Washington State had genetic links, suggesting that many more people in the area may be infected....

Washington had the United States’ first confirmed case of coronavirus, announced by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Jan. 20. Based on an analysis of the virus’s genetic sequence, another case that surfaced in the state and was announced on Friday probably was descended from that first case.

The two people live in the same county, but are not known to have had contact with one another, and the second case occurred well after the first would no longer be expected to be contagious. So the genetic findings suggest that the virus has been spreading through other people in the community for close to six weeks, according to one of the scientists who compared the sequences, Trevor Bedford, an associate professor at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center and the University of Washington.
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And you all know the result of that unchecked spread, courtesy of incompetrump's fantasy bold action.
 
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Belz... said:
Thing is, there was nothing nasty or sensational about that question. It was a reflexive "**** you" from Trump with his usual buzzwords. It was a completely reasonable question, if one with an ulterior motive.
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It was a softball: "say something to calm the people."
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Doesn't matter who made the ad, the facts are the facts.

As for Fauci, I can't believe what he's doing. Political kissing ass is what I'd call it. And that's shocking for someone of his stature.
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I suspect Fauci and some others have deliberately decided that they can better serve the nation by keeping their jobs and humoring Dear Leader, rather than quitting and seeing a dumb hack take over. It's like humoring the bank robber who's waving his gun around the lobby: "Yes, life is unfair." "Yes, you deserve all the money!" "Take it, it's all yours! Just don't shoot!"
 
sts60 said:
Q: What do you say to Americans who are scared

Trump: "I say that you're a terrible reporter, that's what I say."

That reporter did him a favor - set him up with a perfect soft toss down the middle - and Trump, instead of being a leader, or even simulating one for a moment like Pence did with the same question, flew into a rage.

He’s not a leader; he’s a pitiful excuse for an American in particular and a man in general. Never mind the softball metaphor - he was a spoiled 6-year-old who threw a temper tantrum instead of swinging and hurled the bat at the grown-up who placed the ball on the tee for him.
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Ninja'd me, sadly.
 
Fast Eddie B said:
I thought it was a “softball” question*, setting the President up to offer words of comfort.

Unless the ulterior motive was to show Trump incapable of such compassion, which it sure did.


*I see sts60 used much the same metaphor upthread.
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Another ninja, sadly.
 
Bob001 said:
I suspect Fauci and some others have deliberately decided that they can better serve the nation by keeping their jobs and humoring Dear Leader, rather than quitting and seeing a dumb hack take over. It's like humoring the bank robber who's waving his gun around the lobby: "Yes, life is unfair." "Yes, you deserve all the money!" "Take it, it's all yours! Just don't shoot!"
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I think it's denial of inconvenient facts. But that just an opinion.
 
Bob001 said:
I suspect Fauci and some others have deliberately decided that they can better serve the nation by keeping their jobs and humoring Dear Leader, rather than quitting and seeing a dumb hack take over. It's like humoring the bank robber who's waving his gun around the lobby: "Yes, life is unfair." "Yes, you deserve all the money!"...
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I agree. Good analogy.

I'd add something else.

I saw Fauci at a press conference looking like he was about to laugh out loud at something the Trumpenfuher was saying. He bowed his head and covered his mouth with his hand. I can empathize if Fauci feels, 1) I'm a public health official and now is when I can really make a contribution; 2) if I make Dopey feel threatened or upstaged I'll get fired and I won't be able to help anyone; and 3) as a doctor Fauci may feel that Trump is a victim of some pathology, that this is not a normal man, and his erratic, bordering on bizarre, behavior is primarily a medical issue not a moral failing. Probably right. Only-

What is this whackjob doing in the White House?!? :(
 
WAPO just posted a dynamite story, which is being picked up by almost all the other news outlets;that as early as January Trump was warned by US Intelligence agencies about the potenatila disaster that Corona Virus could be, but Trump and his advisors ignored it.

Trump Lied, People Died.
 
newyorkguy said:
I agree. Good analogy.

I'd add something else.

I saw Fauci at a press conference looking like he was about to laugh out loud at something the Trumpenfuher was saying. He bowed his head and covered his mouth with his hand. I can empathize if Fauci feels, 1) I'm a public health official and now is when I can really make a contribution; 2) if I make Dopey feel threatened or upstaged I'll get fired and I won't be able to help anyone; and 3) as a doctor Fauci may feel that Trump is a victim of some pathology, that this is not a normal man, and his erratic, bordering on bizarre, behavior is primarily a medical issue not a moral failing. Probably right. Only-

What is this whackjob doing in the White House?!? :(
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Weakening a number of key points in the foundation.
 
dudalb said:
WAPO just posted a dynamite story, which is being picked up by almost all the other news outlets;that as early as January Trump was warned by US Intelligence agencies about the potenatila disaster that Corona Virus could be, but Trump and his advisors ignored it.

Trump Lied, People Died.
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Knowing Trump, we can expect attacks on the "failing" WAPO with claims of Fake News/Corrupt News.
 
Babbylonian said:
Or, and this might be crazy, put actual experts in charge of the crisis response and then almost never appear during their press conferences..
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Yes. In a way, it is crazy. The idea that President Trump could keep his mouth shut for five consecutive minutes while a series of experts talked is kind of crazy.

I am not allowed to say the guy has a mental disorder. So I’ll just say he is displaying every .... single ... symptom of someone with a debilitating mental disorder.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

Today I spoke with our Nation’s Small Businesses, which employ nearly half of America’s workforce. We are taking the MOST aggressive action in history to deliver fast relief to your businesses and workers. We will always protect our Small Businesses!
@SBAgov
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Can he ever, just once, not communicate in superlatives and slogans? It reinforces the image of a huckster always on the sell. No thoughtful empathy. Just shrill, grating bombast.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Now Fauci is backing incompetrump, giving excuses for why inadequate testing and inadequate PPE for health care workers really doesn't matter.

:mad:
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Rick Wilson is correct--essentially. Everything Trump touches dies. Even erstwhile honest and independent people with strength of character, after some time in Trump's presence, often become corrupted in their souls. Does Trump possess some mesmeric quality, like Hitler was said to by many who knew him? Or is it just a matter of going along to keep one's job? Either way, it's sickening.
 
Bob001 said:
I suspect Fauci and some others have deliberately decided that they can better serve the nation by keeping their jobs and humoring Dear Leader, rather than quitting and seeing a dumb hack take over.
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As I watch the experts standing behind and alongside Trump, in my version of the movie one of them reaches their breaking point, physically pushes Trump aside and says, “ENOUGH! I can’t stand here and smile and nod while this moron keeps spouting nonsense!! He’s been sugar coating this from the very beginning, and damn it, people are dying right now - as we speak - because of this idiot’s ignorance as he drones on about what a wonderful job he’s done. I’m here to tell you the truth - he’s done a horrible job - and that the government’s response to date has been almost criminally insufficient. Please, PLEASE - whatever you do listen to the experts, not this clown!!! It’s a matter of life and death”.

It could go down in history alongside Patrick Henry’s speech before the Virgina Convention.

Or maybe I’m just channeling “Network”. “I’m mad as hell...” :mad:
 
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