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How do Truthers explain the cooperation/coordination needed within the US govt...

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....for an “inside job?” of 9/11?

Do they know how the US government works? Do they know how its many, many decentralized departments, bureaus, divisions, agencies, and subagencies are structured, what their roles and functions are, whether or not one part of the government’s function contradicts another part’s function, and most importantly...how the many hundreds of thousands of people (aka human beings, whom are notoriously not perfect) within and across the US government operate in practice?

And what about all of the various state and local government bodies on the East Coast, along with the private sector, from the firms working in the World Trade Center to American and United Airlines?

Note I haven’t even mentioned the presidential administrations of Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, which the plotting of 9/11 straddled timeline-wise.

“Hey Dubya, I know you don’t like me for beating your daddy in 92 or for my Vice President’s ugly election fight with you in Florida, but can you help me out with this whole False Flag terrorist attack business? We’ll kill thousands of Americans and destroy the World Trade Center and damage the Pentagon, and we’ll blame it all on Islamic jihadists!”

“Hey Bubba, are you kidding?! I had the exact same idea, hehehehe. Yeah, no one’s gonna suspect a thing, other than some funny conspiracy-minded folks on the Internet. I got Cheney on the other line as we speak, he’s creating the plan now! And all is forgiven with Gore and my father!”

Meanwhile, in the United Kingdom...

MI6 guy: “Mr. Prime Minister, it appears that the Americans are going to carry out massive false flag attacks in New York and Washington. Should we be concerned?”

Tony Blair: “No, no, Bush and I are friends. I want to go to war with him against Saddam Hussein so bad, what’s a few thousand or so dead civilians?”

“Very well, thank you sir.”

(Above scene repeated in every other county’s government and intelligence services)

Oh, and we can’t forget The Media (TM)

Editor: You know, we’ve got some credible sources within the US government that a major false flag attack will be carried out in New York and Washington. Obviously most people in the government are on board with this plan, but there are a few courageous whistleblowers who’ve come forward. Looks like this could be the scandal of the century!

More senior editor: Nah, we’ll let them do it and help them cover it up, blame it on a terrorist group most Americans haven’t heard of instead of the real culprits, the CIA and Pentagon etc. After all, what’s a few thousand dead New Yorkers to us at the New York Times?

All of the people above and countless others: “OK, we’re all going to stay on message. Remember, Osama bin Laden did this. And we’re all genuinely sad and shook up. And we’ll all dismiss the conspiracy theorists on the Internet as fabricators or crazy or not worth our time, even though they will threaten to blow the whole thing open. Alright? Alright!”

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Seems plausible. :rolleyes:
 
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"How do Truthers explain the cooperation/coordination needed within the US govt for an “inside job?” of 9/11?"

They can't.

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Galaxy brain:

All the people that were in the towers when they were destroyed by controlled detonation were actually the people that coordinated the whole scheme. A smaller clique of elites within the conspiracy perpetrated a meta-conspiracy to make sure all the collaborators were killed to remain silent.

The controlled demo collaborators were told that 9/11 was a dress rehearsal without real explosives. They were all crowded into the top floors of the towers for a debrief when the real bombs went off, guaranteeing their silence. Like the Pharaohs of old, GWB entombed his workers so his secrets would remain safe forever.

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"How do Truthers explain the cooperation/coordination needed within the US govt for an “inside job?” of 9/11?"

They can't.

/thread

Every year, or so, we review the continuation of government plans. How do we know if they work if we don't test them?
 
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GOLD -The picklock that never fails

It is hard to contain massive ignorance on 9/11.

Who is paying 9/11 truthers to act paranoid, spread stupid theories/lie, and believe 9/11 truth massive array of stupid claims? How much does 9/11 truth pay 9/11 truthers to support stupid stuff?

It would be cool to be paid, then earn the biggest Pulitzer Prize in history for the vast array of idiotic theories of 9/11 truths uncoordinated BS if true? Which claim is true, which 88g NoC flight path to woo is true?

How much would you have to paid to believe 9/11 truth's dumbed down lies?
Free
 
Remember how AE911Truth blamed THE GENERAL POPULATION for the cover-up? So everyone got the memo, and chose to stay on message.

Say, is it possible that the massive tax breaks of the Bush the Lesser and the Trump administrations were really just hush-money to enshill the General Population into kidding one another?

And Truthers are the only ones who didn't get a tax break (because, living in their moms' basements off their moms' welfare handouts, they never paid any taxes to begin with)? Or, like Richard Gage, set up fake Charities to live the sweet life tax-free and thus being invulnerable to shill money?
 
I can't come up with a rational 9/11 truth plot

government planning office of woo - people will think the USAF stood down. Nope, the armed fighters launch into the ADIZ, they don't do hijacking. If we fake hijackings with our 50 billion dollar secret remote control take over Boeing jets project so secret, no one will know, NORAD would take an hour before the fake hijacking are found to be WMD.

Now, we need to get 19 fake UBL buddies on four planes.

/what a load of BS

How do you fake the 19 terrorists in 9/11 truth demented minds filled with mush.
 
So, in cash terms, how much would they need to pay you to shut up about it?

Dave

Fonebone, this is a serious question. If you had been a part of a plot to kill about 3,000 of your own countrymen and start unlawful wars in Asia and the Middle East, how much money would have persuaded you, personally, to remain silent about it for at least the next two decades?

Dave
 
You don’t understand, Dave, that there’s tons of gold that They are hiding in undisclosed locations around the world but that is also being paid out every month to many thousands of people to keep them quiet about the Truth of 9/11.

Somehow, no one else has noticed any friends, family members, co-workers, neighbors, etc. receiving mysterious shipments of gold every month for the past 20 or more years (whenever the plotting of the “inside job” false flag attacks of 9/11 started). But that’s just nitpicking, obviously.
 
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See, all the bigwigs are pedophiles who've been filmed having sex with children in the basement of that pizza parlor. So if they start to go off the reservation, they get Epsteined.
 
Every year, or so, we review the continuation of government plans. How do we know if they work if we don't test them?

Exactly. Which is why every year, the entire top layer of the US government is annihilated in a self-inflicted nuclear attack. It’s just routine testing.
 
See, all the bigwigs are pedophiles who've been filmed having sex with children in the basement of that pizza parlor. So if they start to go off the reservation, they get Epsteined.

But why would notorious con man and sex criminal Epstein go off the reservation in the first place? Because the federal government finally went after him in a serious way? What would motivate federal prosecutors and law enforcement to do such a thing? Aren’t they all in on it too?

Was it because of the increased media exposure? Why would the media, of all people, go after Epstein? Everyone knows that the media is all CIA-controlled Mockingbird propaganda.

I’m not trying to debunk any conspiracy theories, by any means. I’m just.....what is the phrase...

Just Asking Questions. ;)
 
Nobody working in black-ops would have signed onto any of the 911 Truth's versions of the attacks. Too many moving parts in a crowded location full of educated people. Both locations, WTC and Pentagon, had stepped up security on the ground meaning that moving and planting charges would have been impossible considering the prep work needed for CD.

Then there is the problem of Johnny Bag O'Donuts.

Every elite unit in the US: SFOD-D, DEVGRU, MARSOC, CIA-SOG, FBI-HRT, DEA FAST has at least one Johnny Bag O'Donuts in the origination. Johnny's a screw up, not a daily screw up, but the guy who screws up at exactly the worst time. Johnny also likes to run his mouth. And because Johnny is a state of mind he is impossible to get rid of and this means he has to be factored into any operation's worst case scenario.

We've never heard from Johnny Bag O'Donuts about black ops teams in NYC.

We have heard from Johnny in relationship to the FDNY's crap communications system which left fire crews in WTC1 unaware of the collapse of the South Tower leading to their deaths. Johnny Bad O'Donuts shows up again with the EPA lying about the air at Ground Zero being safe to breathe. Johnny was there as the ANG took off looking for AA77 and UA93 and headed out over the Atlantic. Johnny Bag O'Donuts later told us about the CIA's torture of Al Qaeda suspects at black sites and the NSA's domestic eavesdropping.

Johnny Bag O'Donuts cannot be silenced and yet there is no evidence of CD or staged operations on 911.

On the flip side when you talk to anyone who's worked black ops they'd tell you the easiest way to pull off 911 was to send five-man teams onto jet liners, hijack them, and fly them into their targets. And even then Al Qaeda had their own Johnny Bag Al Donuts who was talking to the local press about an upcoming strike inside the US.
 
9/11 truthers, might be morally corrupt and would do things and be quiet for money

Betraying my country and soiling my good name.... 100 Mill US

Some would betray their country for less.
So say 9/11 truth liars... FTFY

I agree, the 9/11 truthers have no morals when it comes to speading lies for free, they don't care.

To think people sell their moral stand for money is called projection. Sad to see the claims of money when it means 9/11 truthers might be bought, as they project the imaginary bad guys in their 9/11 truth 9/11 plot are paid, and have no morals. It is projection.
 
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Nobody working in black-ops would have signed onto any of the 911 Truth's versions of the attacks. Too many moving parts in a crowded location full of educated people. Both locations, WTC and Pentagon, had stepped up security on the ground meaning that moving and planting charges would have been impossible considering the prep work needed for CD.

Then there is the problem of Johnny Bag O'Donuts.

Every elite unit in the US: SFOD-D, DEVGRU, MARSOC, CIA-SOG, FBI-HRT, DEA FAST has at least one Johnny Bag O'Donuts in the origination. Johnny's a screw up, not a daily screw up, but the guy who screws up at exactly the worst time. Johnny also likes to run his mouth. And because Johnny is a state of mind he is impossible to get rid of and this means he has to be factored into any operation's worst case scenario.

We've never heard from Johnny Bag O'Donuts about black ops teams in NYC.

We have heard from Johnny in relationship to the FDNY's crap communications system which left fire crews in WTC1 unaware of the collapse of the South Tower leading to their deaths. Johnny Bad O'Donuts shows up again with the EPA lying about the air at Ground Zero being safe to breathe. Johnny was there as the ANG took off looking for AA77 and UA93 and headed out over the Atlantic. Johnny Bag O'Donuts later told us about the CIA's torture of Al Qaeda suspects at black sites and the NSA's domestic eavesdropping.

Johnny Bag O'Donuts cannot be silenced and yet there is no evidence of CD or staged operations on 911.

On the flip side when you talk to anyone who's worked black ops they'd tell you the easiest way to pull off 911 was to send five-man teams onto jet liners, hijack them, and fly them into their targets. And even then Al Qaeda had their own Johnny Bag Al Donuts who was talking to the local press about an upcoming strike inside the US.

Johnny Bag O’Donuts blew the whistle on the entire US military chain-of-command with the Pentagon Papers and also brought down Richard Nixon with the help of Deep Throat, Woodward and Bernstein, and eventually John Dean.

Johnny Bag O’Donuts also revealed the CIA and FBI abuses and illegal/unconstitutional activities in the 1970s, leading to the Church Committee, the Pike Committee, the Rockefeller Commission, the revelation of the “Family Jewels”, and the Congressional investigations into political assassinations.

Oh, and Johnny Bag O’Donuts blew the whistle on Iran-Contra, Bank of Credit and Commerce International, and various other scandals for good measure.

Yet despite repeated interviews, Johnny Bag O’Donuts has always maintained that he never saw any gunmen on the Grassy Knoll, and he never saw any evidence whatsoever that either Lee Harvey Oswald or Jack Ruby worked for the US government. I keep asking him, and he keeps sticking to the same story. Mighty frustrating, I tell ya.
 

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