2019-nCoV / Corona virus Pt 2

[Skeptic Ginger]

Would a microwave oven kill the virus? Like for gloves or something?

One word: metal.

 

[Skeptical Greg]

However, they do throw an extra layer of nonsense on top of that and some is even contradictory with real medicine...

Any examples of what DO's claim that is contrary to " real medicine "?

My experience has been that they are more reluctant to throw drugs at symptoms, rather than finding the cause.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

The virus isn't alive. It's an inert protein shell around an inert protein string.

Are microwave ovens known for breaking down proteins?

How do you think it cooks?

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Well yeah. As well as denial re: Sars, Ebola, West Nile, Zika, ..... anthrax. Remember anthrax and duct tape your house? Good thing I can use all that duct tape for toilet paper.

You don't see a difference yet?

 

[RecoveringYuppy]

And this is the part that is anecdotal.

Do You not understand that?

That's not anecdotal, he cited the research to back that up. You citing your experiencing with one doctor is an anecdote.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

I'd suggest reading the label on the bleach or googling. theprestige: you sure you meant 50/50 not 1 to 50? 1 to 50 is more typical.

He was being sarcastic and mean and I reported the post because it was dangerous advice.

 

[RecoveringYuppy]

Any examples of what DO's claim that is contrary to " real medicine "?

Read the link that was already cited.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteopathy

 

[RecoveringYuppy]

Osteopaths are not “woo”.

That is most likely true of most Osteopaths but it's useful to note it is because they are abandoning Osteopathy.

 

[pipelineaudio]

Oh for crying out loud, PL. If we knew how to disinfect microphones, we would have told you.

I'm not asking how to disinfect a microphone, I'm asking about killing virii on a metal surface. I will then extrapolate that to the specifics of a microphone

The instructions on the bleach bottle are for washing clothes. The ones on the CDC are a solution strength for washing floors

I was hoping people here had some specific advice

Why are you not even trying to research this online???????

What the hell is wrong with you? Seriously. I tried to ignore a few of your LMGTFY posts.

Did it occur to you that I already had?

Did it occur to you that usually I'm the person people ask about this stuff?

Take a breath and stop assuming things about people

 

[Kings Full]

That's not anecdotal, he cited the research to back that up. You citing your experiencing with one doctor is an anecdote.

Ok, perhaps I'm mistaken in this one situation. Perhaps.

But, are you disputing that DO's have to pass the exact same board exams that an MD has to pass?

Is it your position that DO's don't have the requisite medical knowledge that an MD has?

Do you believe that there is only one way to solve a problem?

Can you prove that Osteopathic medicine isn't as effective as "MD" medicine?

I'm not advocating for either, I'm just pointing out that they are equals in the eyes of the law, and the medical community.

 

[RecoveringYuppy]

Would a microwave oven kill the virus? Like for gloves or something?

Heat will destroy the virus. Source of the heat doesn't matter. The only problem with heat from a microwave is whether the object will be uniformly heated in a microwave.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

I'm not asking how to disinfect a microphone, I'm asking about killing virii on a metal surface. I will then extrapolate that to the specifics of a microphone

The instructions on the bleach bottle are for washing clothes. The ones on the CDC are a solution strength for washing floors

I was hoping people here had some specific advice



What the hell is wrong with you? Seriously. I tried to ignore a few of your LMGTFY posts.

Did it occur to you that I already had?

Did it occur to you that usually I'm the person people ask about this stuff?

Take a breath and stop assuming things about people

I know you haven't because you keep asking the same question over and over.

Feel free to put me on ignore.

 

[Skeptical Greg]

Read the link that was already cited.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteopathy

From the link:

In the United States, the 21st century training of osteopathic physicians (who practice osteopathic medicine, not osteopathy) is equivalent to that of Doctor of Medicine (MD) physicians.

 

[RecoveringYuppy]

But, are you disputing that DO's have to pass the exact same board exams that an MD has to pass?

No.

Is it your position that DO's don't have the requisite medical knowledge that an MD has?

No.

Do you believe that there is only one way to solve a problem?

No.

Can you prove that Osteopathic medicine isn't as effective as "MD" medicine?

Read the link that has been provided more than once now.

I'm not advocating for either, I'm just pointing out that they are equals in the eyes of the law, and the medical community.

The doctors can be equal, the specifics of Osteopathy are definitely not equal in the eyes of the medical community.

 

[The Atheist]

I'm not asking how to disinfect a microphone, I'm asking about killing virii on a metal surface.

Here you go mate. Peroxide is one of the most effective products for killing coronaviruses.

Don't bother about what I say, the EPA says it, too: https://www.epa.gov/pesticide-registration/list-n-disinfectants-use-against-sars-cov-2

1/10th the time other products take to destroy it.

 

[RecoveringYuppy]

From the link:

Read everything immediately preceding and following that one sentence FFS. Jesus.

 

[Marcus]

Still scary.
And from an economic view, this is going to crash the markets on Monday. A lockdown might be necessary, but the economic damage will be severe. Recession a deadl certainty now.

Yes. I think we can now say this recession will be worse than 2008, regardless of what happens with the progression of the virus. Too much money lost with everything shutting down. Hard to say when the actual buying opportunity will be on the market, probably not now.

 

[The Atheist]

https://globalnews.ca/news/6671901/coronavirus-canadian-company-covid-19-vaccine-candidate/

Of course any real vaccine is many months away simply because of testing for side effects. So any vaccine right now could only be termed "candidate" until approved by the local regulatory body

Asked & answered, then.

Also, worth noting that side effects are and issue, but they're checking it works first. Anything can be proposed as a vaccine - making one that actually works is the key.

And it won't happen this year, which means it's kind of irrelevant right now.

 

[Skeptical Greg]

Read everything immediately preceding and following that one sentence FFS. Jesus.

The point was, they are not any less qualified to practice medicine than MD's are..

Jesus, yourself..

 

[Kings Full]

The doctors can be equal, the specifics of Osteopathy are definitely not equal in the eyes of the medical community.

Thank you for your responses.

As to the quoted, I would ask what your experience is in the matter.

A few years ago I suffered a serious injury on a job. Broke my back and my left scapula.

When I presented in the ER the first Dr. I saw was an MD, he ordered some X-Rays and then wrote me several prescriptions for the pain.

But, after the first round of X-Rays I was seen by a different doctor, a DO. He ordered a CAT-scan as they had found the broken scapula, and sure enough that's when they found the broken back.

He, the DO, didn't write me a bunch of prescriptions but instead asked me what I needed, if anything.

As it turned out all I really needed was something to help me sleep, so he prescribed 10 tabs of 10mg valium.

I'm not suggesting that one was right and one was wrong. I'm just pointing out the difference.