2019-nCoV / Corona virus Pt 2

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ynot said:
Perhaps NZ's super aggressive sunshine is frying the little buggers :cool:.
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Jesus, I hope there's something like that going on, because us and Aussie have got off very lightly so far.

There is a virus sweeping through the country, but not Covid-19.

Yet.

novaphile said:
They've been in Australia since January.

They caught it here.
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That says there must be quite a lot of mild cases under the radar.
 
Earlier in the thread, someone asked about Australia, and what we're doing to prevent the spread.

So here's a list:
1. We're testing aggressively.
2. We now have pop-up, and drive through clinics.
3. When cases are identified, we're tracking contacts aggressively.
4. We belatedly put travel restrictions in place (too late in all cases, but better than nothing - we've banned flights from Italy today, for example).

In my workplace, on my floor:
1. Posters everywhere about hand-washing protocols.
2. Alcohol based hand sanitiser at all three entrances to the floor.
3. Ongoing emails about our state of preparation, and calling our attention to the hand-washing and hand sanitisation.

Now the scary bits...
1. Our (workplace) flu vaccinations are at least two weeks away.
2. We're running out of hand-sanitiser really quickly, the three boxes I reported earlier were all filled with the rest of a large stationary order, hand-sanitiser is still on 'back-order'.
3. One of my team didn't report to work today.
4. Another member of my team was sent home today, because he was suddenly struck down with a high fever and shivering.

To the people who keep saying "seasonal"...

... not a chance, it is hot in Australia, rarely humid, and we're seeing personal transmissions within the country everywhere.
 
novaphile said:
They've been in Australia since January.

They caught it here.
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Quite logical that the bug they caught was locally sourced.
Also logical to think they caught it from someone in the production team who could have come from LA, SF, Hong Kong, Seoul, or even NYC who previously came from or caught it from someone in Wuhan. Also, lots of other avenues are available, though not as likely.
If you travel and then also travel with travelers, anything is possible.
 
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Sherkeu said:
Quite logical that the bug they caught was locally sourced.
Also logical to think they caught it from someone in the production team who could have come from LA, SF, Hong Kong, Seoul, or even NYC who previously came from or caught it from someone in Wuhan. Also, lots of other avenues are available, though not as likely.
If you travel and then also travel with travelers, anything is possible.
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I'm sure it won't surprise anyone to hear that they are both amazingly nice, and have been socialising a lot, and apparently haven't refused any 'selfies'.

But yes, they could have caught it from a crew member who had recently travelled.

Queensland (where they are) is currently showing 12 active cases.
New South Wales (the adjacent State) is showing 65 active cases.
(On the Johns Hopkins tracker)
 
I would like to quietly point out that Italy had 2 confirmed cases on 31 January.

Approximately 6 weeks later, they have 12,462.

That number includes 827 people who have died, and 1,045 who have recovered.

Remember SARS killed approximately 800 people world-wide.
 
novaphile said:
Earlier in the thread, someone asked about Australia, and what we're doing to prevent the spread.
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That's quite sickening against what we're doing here, which is sweet FA.

We are gonna be in deep trouble very shortly, I fear.
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Meanwhile, until the results of Remdesivir are in, I'd be having a shot at chloroquine phosphate. The trials aren't yet complete, but Chinese doctors seems to think it's pretty useful.

Tricky stuff, because it's been shown to make matters worse in cases of chikungunya virus and it also has a narrow margin between useful and fata; dose.
 
pipelineaudio said:
The you guys who keep talking about the impending panics
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Are you reading the same thread? I haven't seen anyone talking about impending panics, other than people buying toilet paper.

I think you'll find people here are deeply concerned.

Deep concern looks well justified when a country can go from zero cases to 12,000, causing over 800 deaths, in the space of six weeks. If not stopped, we could be talking about hundreds of thousands dead in Italy alone.
 
What's the homeopathic community saying about Coronavirus?

https://facultyofhomeopathy.org/coronavirus-advice-from-the-uk-homeopathic-community/

Can homeopathy help?
Homeopathic medicines have been used extensively for flu-like symptoms and in epidemics around the world. If you decide to take a homeopathic medicine, this should be in addition to the various measures outlined above and should not be your only approach. Selection of the most appropriate homeopathic medicine is based on an individual’s unique symptoms. However, Gelsemium 30c and Bryonia 30c are commonly used for flu-like symptoms and have a long-established, traditional usage over many years.
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In other words: "We know we peddle snake oil and don't want to be prosecuted."
 
Clearly Trump has been using the collective power of the NSA, CIA, DHS and FBI to monitor my partner's and my communications and conversations with our friends and family to formulate a travel policy that maintains our position between a rock and a hard place.

Several Vegas hotels have suspended buffets.

Have Americans started shooting each other over toilet paper and canned food yet?
 
pipelineaudio said:
Why is italy doing so much worse than korea? Wasn't korea first?
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Early and rigourous testing, very fast tracking of the movements of those infected, informative websites including a lot of information about infected people, more compliant population, Cultural practices of distancing?

There could be loads of factors. On the other hand...

Italy, and very soon Spain and France have populations that are not taking this seriously, people who are fleeing “red zones”, nobody wearing masks, continuing to gather together in large groups, poor to non-existent testing.
 
pipelineaudio said:
Why is italy doing so much worse than korea? Wasn't korea first?
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Italy has an average age of 45.4 years

Korea has an average age of 40.8 years

USA has an average age of 38.2 years

Lets watch this and see if this is the reason some countries are getting hit harder.

I don't think China's age mattered, because they were the ground breakers on this, didn't know it was coming.
 
dudalb said:
Problem is we need a POTUS who can calm things down, and Trump whole MO is just the opposite..create hysteria that he can exploit for his political purposes.
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With any luck he'll catch the ******* thing.

alfaniner said:
Tom Hanks just Tweeted that he and his wife have tested positive for the virus. This puts a famous international face on the issue. I expect the panic meter to go off the dial.
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That's it for me. It's an emergency.

World governments will have to pool their ressources to save one of the greatest actors of our time. GET IT DONE, people. :mad:

angrysoba said:
And of course, no vaccines or immunity yet.
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And this virus has more in common with the common cold than the flu, so maybe use that as a a comparison.
 
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