2019-nCoV / Corona virus Pt 2

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Darat said:
How many times will we have to self isolate?

Was thinking about this, if I have what I think are the symptoms and I as advised self quarantine but aren't tested and in fact don't have the viral infection and I return to normal life, then I again get some suspicious symptoms I go back into self isolation.

Is self isolation useful if I'm not tested?
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Yes. Self isolation is always a good idea when you have the symptoms of a contagious disease. On those occasions when you don't have COVID-19, you'll still be minimizing the risk of passing other contagious diseases to others.

A test for COVID-19 immunity (possessing antibodies to the coronavirus because you've already had it and recovered from it) would be a great thing to have though. I've just recovered from a week of illness - probably not COVID-19 but maybe. I would be relieved to know that it was COVID-19 because I'd then be able to go shopping and attend events without fear of COVID-19 infection. As far as I know, no such test is readily and affordably available.
 
The Atheist said:
Every trained nurse and doctor that's not sick will be in deck at actual hospitals, and when it comes to things like intubation - which is going to be required in large numbers, I doubt you could teach people in the time available.

The other problem for you is lack of materials - hospitals don't have oodles of ICU equipment lying around, making the rooms sterile and air-tight would be a touch difficult.

Nice thought, but not at all practical.

The practical measure would be to get armed forces to set up MASH-style hospitals and get ready to lend a hand.
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Yes the defence forces might be able to provide hospital care for some people, but what happens when all of this is overwhelmed? It is something we should be discussing now. Maybe it might be better to discuss this issue in the new thread covid-19 and politics, as it is more of a political decision than medical.
 
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I don’t think they are being called to enforce a quarantine. They are being called for logistics. I think it is a one mile diameter area. Unless it is like a trial I don’t see it helping much.
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dudalb said:
Porbably but the footage alone of the Guard being deployed will up the fear factor in this country considerably.
And Trumpy's "Don't Worry, Be Happy" message this morning won't help much either.
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I heard the mayor of New Rochelle this morning on the radio. The National Guard is their to do thing like delivering the food to school kids who were on lunch programs.
 
Ivor the Engineer said:
Fire in Wolworth's (a former department chain store fire in UK): People in restaurant who had just sat down to eat their fish and chips stayed in restaurant despite smoke coming in under curtains.
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Yes but weren't those fish and chips good.

Humans suck at risk! I'm hoping our flight to Las Vegas for wedding is cancelled so the decision is taken out of our hands. Don't want my 76 year old mother ill in New York in the middle of April relying on the flash, expensive and crap US healthcare system!
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You shouldn't rely on others to make that decision for you. Although that can be a very tough decision.
 
portlandatheist said:
I was just thinking that politicians, in general, are a high-risk group. They travel, go to meetings and gatherings of all kinds, and interact with the public. They shake hands. I'm sure we'll see many of them get the virus.
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If and when it begins affecting the upper echelons of government here in the U.S., it would deserve a new line in Alanis Morissette’s “Ironic”.*


*I began the post thinking I would say it would have a Shakespearean bent to it, but Alanis’ song is more timely.
 
I've seen a few recirculated posts on Facebook blaming the media for the panic hype. One of them quoted Dr. Drew. Like any political posting, I avoid getting drawn into that mess.
Except in a few weeks or months, when I may want to revisit those posts and write "What do you say now, you stupid ****?"
 
a_unique_person said:
How about this for the variable fatality rates. If best quality treatment is available the death rate is lower than if the health system is overloaded. That would explain the huge spike in Italy.
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IMO the variation in fatality rates is almost entirely a function of how many people have been tested. Even S. Korea probably hasn’t found all the active cases so the rate they are reporting is still higher than the “real” rate. Insufficient facilities for people having serious breathing problems could result in some additional deaths though.
 
Armitage72 said:
A child in New Jersey suffered chemical burns from what was likely a home-made hand sanitizer being sold at a 7-11.
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I bought a quart of Everclear and just poured it out. It's illegal to drive with an open container in a vehicle. And if I just stay home I don't need it to begin with.

There were large isopropyl wipes available so I bought a canister. Also some foiled-wrapped ones but they're tiny, like you would use to prep skin for an injection of blood draw. You'd need several to clean your hands.

I've done a few errands as normal but they are for necessities, computer repair, dog food and a fruitless search for hand sanitizer. My brother and his GF planned to fly in from Seattle and take his sibs to Opening Day at the local MLB stadium! Not sure that's gonna work out.

I live in a campus for the elderly with my 95-year-old mom. I have zero personal fear for my own safety, but bringing it home with me would suck. If I'm stocked up with functioning electronics I'd readily self-quarantine, but need to be out & about today.
 
Minoosh said:
I bought a quart of Everclear and just poured it out. It's illegal to drive with an open container in a vehicle. And if I just stay home I don't need it to begin with.

There were large isopropyl wipes available so I bought a canister. Also some foiled-wrapped ones but they're tiny, like you would use to prep skin for an injection of blood draw. You'd need several to clean your hands.

I've done a few errands as normal but they are for necessities, computer repair, dog food and a fruitless search for hand sanitizer. My brother and his GF planned to fly in from Seattle and take his sibs to Opening Day at the local MLB stadium! Not sure that's gonna work out.

I live in a campus for the elderly with my 95-year-old mom. I have zero personal fear for my own safety, but bringing it home with me would suck. If I'm stocked up with functioning electronics I'd readily self-quarantine, but need to be out & about today.
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I am similarly prepared, but the real deciding factor is for someone in authority to actually issue clear, decisive instructions.

I only have about 3 days worth of PTO accrued for this year so I would need my work to go ahead and instruct employees to stay home. Unpaid leave I can manage, but getting fired for no-show I cannot.

Lots of reports about organizational chaos out there. Tests not being available, suspected infected having no clear instructions on who to contact or what to do, and so on.
 
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