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Survival on surfaces

WHO says
How long does the virus survive on surfaces?

It is not certain how long the virus that causes COVID-19 survives on surfaces, but it seems to behave like other coronaviruses. Studies suggest that coronaviruses (including preliminary information on the COVID-19 virus) may persist on surfaces for a few hours or up to several days. This may vary under different conditions (e.g. type of surface, temperature or humidity of the environment).
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Two strains of the killer coronavirus are spreading around the world – and 70% of infected patients have caught the more aggressive and contagious type, study claims

Daily Mail said:
The coronavirus has mutated into at least two separate strains since the outbreak began in December, according to Chinese scientists.

Researchers say there are now two types of the same coronavirus infecting people – and most people seem to have caught the most aggressive form of it.

At least 94,000 people have been infected around the world and almost 3,200 have died, while 50,000 have recovered from the disease.

The team of experts from Beijing and Shanghai said 70 per cent of people have caught the most aggressive strain of the virus but that this causes such bad illness that it has struggled to spread since early January.

Now an older, milder strain seems to be becoming more common.

Knowing that the virus can mutate may make it harder to keep track of or to treat, and raises the prospect that recovered patients could become reinfected.

The experts cautioned that the study that discovered the mutation only used a tiny amount of data – 103 samples – so more research is needed, and another scientist added that it is normal for viruses to change when they jump from animals to humans.

The research was done by experts at Peking University in Beijing, Shanghai University and the Chinese Academy of Sciences.

In their study of genes in 103 samples of the coronavirus, which is named SARS-CoV-2 and causes a disease called COVID-19, they revealed they had discovered two distinct versions of it, which they named L and S.

They claimed that around 70 per cent of patients have caught the L strain, which is more aggressive and faster-spreading than S.

But L has become less common as the outbreak has gone on, with it apparently struggling to spread since early January, while S has become more common.

S is less aggressive but is thought to be the first strain of the virus which made the jump into humans and is continuing to infect new patients...

The study was published in the scientific journal National Science Review, which is managed by the Chinese Academy of Sciences...
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pipelineaudio said:
Anything further on the chloroquine? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32074550
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Not yet - it's the problem with drug trials, doing it properly takes time, and that's not something we have a lot of right now.

It's very closely related to quinine, so I'm thinking a course of imbibing large amounts of gin & tonic might be a prophylactic against the covid-19.

Certainly worth a try!

Belz... said:
For ****'s sake, man, why are you so end-of-times gloomy about this?
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Because I can do maths.

William Parcher said:
Two strains of the killer coronavirus are spreading around the world – and 70% of infected patients have caught the more aggressive and contagious type, study claims
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I hope they're right and that the less less aggressive one is catching on, because the difference between a 2% fatality rate and a 0.2% fatality rate is over 50 million corpses.
 
The Atheist said:
It's very closely related to quinine, so I'm thinking a course of imbibing large amounts of gin & tonic might be a prophylactic against the covid-19.
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Since the dosage of quinine required to be effective against malaria equates to about 67 litres of tonic water per day, I suspect that may be a rather ineffective strategy.

Dave
 
Belz... said:
You've already admitted that your previous math was wrong, so I wouldn't be so confident if I were you.
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There's an infinity of difference between predictions and applying maths to things that have actually happened.

I got one prediction wrong.

And I'm not confident so much as fearful, because I still think that 90% of people have no clue what things will be like if the virus spreads widely in communities.
 
The Atheist said:
There's an infinity of difference between predictions and applying maths to things that have actually happened.

I got one prediction wrong.

And I'm not confident so much as fearful, because I still think that 90% of people have no clue what things will be like if the virus spreads widely in communities.
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I'd bet you're in the 90% just as I am.
 
gypsyjackson said:
Yup. Someone could be about 40' and show up as OK. Mind you, I would hope the security guards would spot how ill that person looked and ask for a second opinion.
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Maybe the point of having the radar gun is to serve as a polygraph test. They don't even have to pull the trigger. Anyone infected with the virus will see the gun at the office entrance and just turn around and go back home. It works!
 
Another interesting look at the data:

China is stabilizing at around 80k cases. They have almost 1400 million citizens. That's 5.7 cases per 100k.

Italy is actually closing on it with 2502 cases per 60 million. That's 4.2 per 100k.

But the champion is South Korea with 5621 cases per 51 million people. That's 11 per 100k. With no decline in sight.

Still, in South Korea it's mostly about how much more they are testing comparing to anyone else at the moment.
 
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William Parcher said:
I was at a Target today and they had enough toilet paper for six armies. Immense quantities. But they were sold out of hand sanitizer.
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I went to the store and got bunch of canned food but forgot hand sanitizer. In a pinch I'm pretty sure vodka would do the trick.
 
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