Democratic caucuses and primaries

Bloomberg considering dropping out after Biden rout

I think he'll drop out within 48 hours.

PALM BEACH, Fla. — Mike Bloomberg is weighing dropping out as early as Wednesday after losing a string of Super Tuesday states where he invested a fortune in advertising, according to several people familiar with his plans.

While the multi-billionaire former New York City mayor was on track to win delegates, he was roundly beaten by Joe Biden, on whose collapse Bloomberg had been counting.
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I'd say Biden's surprise victories in Massachusetts and Minnesota are probably more consequential as they show he can win in the northern US. That said, Texas looks like it's going his way as well.

Four days ago, Joe Biden had never won a presidential primary in three runs; now he's won nine and is leading in two others.

That said, he's Joe Biden; you know he's going to find some way to make even his biggest fans wince in the next couple of days.
 
Making his fans wince won't matter. Showing the remainder who just haven't paid attention yet what he's really like will, but the problem is whether it will do so fast enough.
 
Cabbage said:
In a thread where for literally weeks we have been discussing concern over Sanders electability issues against Trump I choose to make a comment about said fear of a Sanders nomination, deciding it would be redundant to once again remind everyone precisely why people fear a Sanders nomination.
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It's not my fault if you phrased it in a way that said X but meant Y.

If someone posts "I love ketchup" in the thread, should I assume that they're talking about Bernie beating Trump since it's the topic of discussion, or should I take them at their word?

Stop dicking around. No one is scared of Bernie winning the nomination here, which is what you said. We're just concerned about his ability to win. If that's what you meant, then just admit you weren't clear, since we're otherwise in agreement, and move on.
 
Puppycow said:
Super Tuesday did what it was supposed to do. It narrowed the field to two candidates.
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I don't know if that was the original idea behind Super Tuesday, but it certainly is a welcome effect from my perspective. Remaining primary voters will be given a relatively clear choice between rebuilding and extending Obama-era initiatives (ACA, DACA, DREAM Act, Dodd-Frank, etc.) and a bold new political revolution with maximalist spending programs unlike anything we've ever seen west of the Azores.

Puppycow said:
Bloomberg and Warren should drop out now.
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Alas, agreed. As a Warren voter, I hope whomever wins out offers her a prominent cabinet post where she can ride herd on the financial sector.

SuburbanTurkey said:
...Bloomberg's complete flop is a real moment of relief.
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Could not possibly agree more. The idea of a bipartisan consensus around open and flagrant plutocracy scared the **** out of me.
 
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Belz... said:
It's not my fault if you phrased it in a way that said X but meant Y.

If someone posts "I love ketchup" in the thread, should I assume that they're talking about Bernie beating Trump since it's the topic of discussion, or should I take them at their word?

Stop dicking around.
No one is scared of Bernie winning the nomination here, which is what you said. We're just concerned about his ability to win. If that's what you meant, then just admit you weren't clear, since we're otherwise in agreement, and move on.
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You gotta be kidding me. Yes, people here are scared of Bernie winning the nomination. That is what I clearly said because that is what they clearly say. They say so explicitly. And it is precisely because they are concerned about his ability to win. I'm not gonna disbelieve my own eyes merely to pacify you.

Please quit bothering me about something so goddamned obvious.
 
A good argument can be made that a Nominee Sanders would suppress down-ballot votes - local candidates would much rather have Joe than Bernie giving them support.
And if Super Tuesday wasn't enough to bring out the Youth vote for Bernie en masse, why should we assume they will show up in November?
 
Cabbage said:
You gotta be kidding me. Yes, people here are scared of Bernie winning the nomination. That is what I clearly said because that is what they clearly say.
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Then your contention that I read you wrong was a lie. That's exactly what you meant.

You're wrong. As I said numerous times, posters here, which is those you were refering to, are concerned that he would lose to Trump. They're not afraid of him or his policies.

Stop lying.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
And if Super Tuesday wasn't enough to bring out the Youth vote for Bernie en masse, why should we assume they will show up in November?
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Because by decreed natural law of the universe we have to pin our hopes on some mass idealistic youth uprising every single goddamn election with the Democrats for some reason.
 
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Belz... said:
Then your contention that I read you wrong was a lie. That's exactly what you meant.

You're wrong. As I said numerous times, posters here, which is those you were refering to, are concerned that he would lose to Trump. They're not afraid of him or his policies.

Stop lying.
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Great, now you accuse me of lying. People here are afraid of Sanders winning the nomination, everyone actually paying attention knows why, so I am under no obligation to explicate why once again solely for your benefit because you haven't been following the conversation thus far.

Absolutely Ridiculous

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Cabbage said:
Great, now you accuse me of lying.
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Well you said one thing, pretended to mean something else, and now have backtacked again. Since presumably you know what you meant, I can only assume it's deliberate.

People here are afraid of Sanders winning the nomination, everyone actually paying attention knows why, so I am under no obligation to explicate why once again solely for your benefit because you haven't been following the conversation thus far.
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Stop blaming other people for your failures of communication.

And your reaction is ridiculous anyway. I simply pointed out that your words seemed to imply something different than what the actual situation was, and you flipped out, as usual. It's not anyone's fault but your own.
 
JoeMorgue said:
Because by natural law of the universe we have to pin our hopes on some mass idealistic youth uprising every single goddamn election with the Democrats for some reason.
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And then the Democrats do everything they can to piss off and alienate the young, then act surprised the young don't support them. "But we reached out to you by choosing a candidate who's doing all he can to help investment banks trade in dodgy securities then be bailed out by the taxpayers if they fail! What more could you want? Student loans concern you? Yes, you're right, we should deregulate student loans so more banks can profit from them! We're on the same page!"
 
Belz... said:
They're not afraid of him or his policies.
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Hey now, I'm afraid of him and his policies.

To take just one example, Bernie thinks it would be a good idea to break up every systemically important financial institution in the U.S. instead of regulating them so as to prevent excessive risk-taking as they do in Canada. "Hulk smash" is fun in the movies but bad in the markets. Who among you would leave your financial assets parked in an institution which is about to be broken up into several disparate organizations?

The Great Zaganza said:
...if Super Tuesday wasn't enough to bring out the Youth vote for Bernie en masse, why should we assume they will show up in November?
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I was honestly expecting that Bernie would surge the youth vote and I'd have to spend this week reconciling myself to getting behind his campaign, using a potent combination of autohypnosis and psychoactive drugs.
 
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Belz... said:
Well you said one thing, pretended to mean something else, and now have backtacked again. Since presumably you know what you meant, I can only assume it's deliberate.
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What the hell are you even talking about? I've consistently stood by my claim that people are freaking out over a possible Sanders nomination.



Stop blaming other people for your failures of communication.

And your reaction is ridiculous anyway. I simply pointed out that your words seemed to imply something different than what the actual situation was, and you flipped out, as usual. It's not anyone's fault but your own.
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No. First you implied I was lying. Now you explicitly claim I was in fact lying. Yeah, that kind of pissed me off, I'll admit. Don't accuse me falsely if you don't want me to get mad at you. Pretty simple, really. :rolleyes:
 
Prediction: Trump and Putin will rile up Bernie supporters that they got cheated out of this again by the Biden-Clinton gang. If you thought the anti-Hillary smears were bad, wait till you see what they’ve got in the hopper against Biden.

Not quite sure how this can be prevented at this point.
 
d4m10n said:
Hey now, I'm afraid of him and his policies.
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There's an exception to every rule. :)

Cabbage said:
What the hell are you even talking about?
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Strange that you didn't have that reaction when I talked about you backtracking. I can't help you if you aren't paying attention.

First you implied I was lying.
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Now that is a lie. First I said your words meant one thing, but that the reality was different. That's where you got personal because of course you did.

Now, do you want to get back on topic or do you want to continue this slap fight?
 
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