Will Trump See Covid-19 as an Opportunity?

[newyorkguy]

I'm convinced that most of the people dismissing the possibility that Trump could refuse to accept the 2020 election results if he loses will immediately segue to defending him if and when he does!

Sad!

 

[applecorped]

Guessing is sad

 

[Leftus]

I'm convinced that most of the people dismissing the possibility that Trump could refuse to accept the 2020 election results if he loses will immediately segue to defending him if and when he does!

Sad!

Even if Trump refuses to accept the results, how does that impact, say, who Roberts swears in? Or to whom the house and senate sends their bills for signature?

Trump could set up a desk on the driveway at 1600. It's an irrational concern that he might see himself as president when the government does not. The machinery will move forward with or without his objections.

His objections to the results will not matter one iota.

 

[johnny karate]

So, if someone else wins, who does Roberts swear in?
Who will the Senate and House send their bills to get signed into law?
To whom do you think the generals of the joint chief of staff will report?

How many of the institutions, the various bureaucratic systems will just accept a proclamation rather than follow the laws?

Yes, it's both silly and paranoia.

For, I don't know, like the 14th time: The claim isn't that he will necessarily be successful.

So can we please torch this straw man, bury its ashes, and move on?

 

[Leftus]

For, I don't know, like the 14th time: The claim isn't that he will necessarily be successful.

So can we please torch this straw man, bury its ashes, and move on?

If he is not successful, why the concern? What if he does something that doesn't matter? Not sure why we should care. What if, after the election he goes and gets a hair cut and a beer? Gnashing of teeth; rending of garments?

 

[Donal]

so after the court case is settled.

Gore v Bush came down to pretty much one district in one State.
What if 2020 or 2024 comes down with dozens of such cases?

I would hate to see the contemporary version of the Brooks Brothers Riot.

 

[ponderingturtle]

Who will the Senate and House send their bills to get signed into law?
To whom do you think the generals of the joint chief of staff will report?

To whoever they decide too. Why are you so convinced they will not go along with him?

 

[Donal]

If he is not successful, why the concern?

He panders to violent, smooth brained, racist cretins with a lot of guns who like to mail pipe bombs. And the Republicans have been stacking government offices for decades with loyalists that are there to enforce the party agenda.

What if he does something that doesn't matter? Not sure why we should care. What if, after the election he goes and gets a hair cut and a beer? Gnashing of teeth; rending of garments?

We'll be too distracted by the flying pigs to notice.

 

[plague311]

For, I don't know, like the 14th time: The claim isn't that he will necessarily be successful.

So can we please torch this straw man, bury its ashes, and move on?

Jesus ******* Christ, right? I mean, how many times does it need to be laid out in clear words that we aren't concerned he'll succeed, the debate is if he'll try?

There'd already been one round of debates. I don't see Trump blaming the stock market on that particular debate. I see him drawing a correlation between the way the Democratic primaries are playing out (including the debates, plural), and the way investor confidence is playing out.

"I think it took a hit maybe for two reasons. I think [investors] look at the people that you watched debating last night and they say 'if there's even a possibility'" a Democrat is elected the economy will decline, Trump said. "I think the financial markets are very upset when they look at the Democrat candidates standing on that stage making fools out of themselves."

He specifically says "the debating last night". I'm sure you have something locked and loaded as an excuse as to how he's still referring to some other debate. "It doesn't really refute my point. They're the same people that had debated before, etc." Even though it didn't drop after the first two debates, really ******* odd, that. Yet, it decided to drop the two days before the debate, and then not as much on Wednesday? This is rational to you? Did you even bother looking?

It is all "think of the worst possible scenario. Apply it with Trump will probably do this"

It is beginning to become a bit ridiculous and needy, and not on his part.

Yeah, you say this **** all of the time, or something like it. I think it's actually our fantasy. The bulk of your posts is you talking about how everyone over reacts, everyone blows it out of proportion, Trump will win because of the Dems over reacting all of the time. It actually sounds like you, like maybe YOU, seem to be obsessed with what Dems are doing.

This whole thread, including your comment, and not one person has actually given a factual reason why Trump wouldn't try what we've claimed. Only claims that it won't succeed (something no one has really said). Thanks for your irrelevant, thinly veiled insult though. Lame as it might be.

 

[plague311]

If he is not successful, why the concern? What if he does something that doesn't matter? Not sure why we should care. What if, after the election he goes and gets a hair cut and a beer? Gnashing of teeth; rending of garments?

By your rationale, why the **** are you participating in this conversation then? Why do you care? Just to tell everyone else they shouldn't care? Is a discussion forum not the correct place to discuss things that may, or may not take place?

 

[Cabbage]

So, if someone else wins, who does Roberts swear in?
Who will the Senate and House send their bills to get signed into law?
To whom do you think the generals of the joint chief of staff will report?

How many of the institutions, the various bureaucratic systems will just accept a proclamation rather than follow the laws?

Yes, it's both silly and paranoia.

Actually, every bit of that is absolutely irrelevant to my concerns: That Trump refuses to concede and rallies his base to anger at the unjustness of him losing the election. Even if the new President is sworn in and Trump sulks away, I'm still concerned with pockets of terrorist attacks perpetrated by Trumptrash here and there.

 

[Leftus]

To whoever they decide too. Why are you so convinced they will not go along with him?

For the lawmakers, they would know that anything signed by the person not duly elected wouldn't be valid.

Everyone else would likely follow the rule of law.

Most of the people who operate the machinery would follow the rule of law. Because it's what we do. Most of us have worked through various administrations and would do what is right. Eventually, the choice of the people would bear out and those that supported the coup would likely lose various benefits when removed from our jobs.

 

[Cabbage]

If he is not successful, why the concern? What if he does something that doesn't matter? Not sure why we should care.

I just explained to you why the concern. Yes, my explanation occurred after this post but it is an explanation that any reasonably intelligent person would've come up with all on their own.

 

[Cabbage]

For the lawmakers, they would know that anything signed by the person not duly elected wouldn't be valid.

Everyone else would likely follow the rule of law.

Most of the people who operate the machinery would follow the rule of law. Because it's what we do. Most of us have worked through various administrations and would do what is right. Eventually, the choice of the people would bear out and those that supported the coup would likely lose various benefits when removed from our jobs.

Yeah, whenever you decide to say something relevant, just wake me up then.

 

[Leftus]

By your rationale, why the **** are you participating in this conversation then? Why do you care? Just to tell everyone else they shouldn't care? Is a discussion forum not the correct place to discuss things that may, or may not take place?

I'm asking why they care about something they say won't have an impact. How is that not part of a discussion?

 

[Ziggurat]

This whole thread, including your comment, and not one person has actually given a factual reason why Trump wouldn't try what we've claimed. Only claims that it won't succeed (something no one has really said). Thanks for your irrelevant, thinly veiled insult though. Lame as it might be.

I've given factual reasons. But you don't want to hear them. You want your paranoid delusions. And you think those delusions are "factual".

Trump has broken so, so many minds.

 

[Leftus]

Actually, every bit of that is absolutely irrelevant to my concerns: That Trump refuses to concede and rallies his base to anger at the unjustness of him losing the election. Even if the new President is sworn in and Trump sulks away, I'm still concerned with pockets of terrorist attacks perpetrated by Trumptrash here and there.

And here I thought people were saying it wasn't paranoia.

 

[Leftus]

Yeah, whenever you decide to say something relevant, just wake me up then.

My apologies for not bending facts to your delusions. Feel free to go back to sleep. Sorry for trying to insert reality into your dreams.

 

[Ziggurat]

Actually, every bit of that is absolutely irrelevant to my concerns: That Trump refuses to concede and rallies his base to anger at the unjustness of him losing the election. Even if the new President is sworn in and Trump sulks away, I'm still concerned with pockets of terrorist attacks perpetrated by Trumptrash here and there.

Are you concerned with what Bernie Bros might do?

 

[Leftus]

Are you concerned with what Bernie Bros might do?

Of course not. They aren't the bad guys.