Cont: Brexit: Now What? 9 Below Zero

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https://twitter.com/Joe_Mayes/status/1232253794597163008?s=19

ndrew Neil tells
@MakeUK_
manufacturing conference that 10 Downing Street is happy to see the end of complex, cross-border supply chains after Brexit.

`Those days are coming to an end',
@afneil
says

Says govt. sees rise of 3D printing, more domestic sourcing as the future
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The more I see of Cummings, the more I think he must have read too much science fiction at an impressionable age.
 
The Don said:
Well that'll be a shock for the manufacturing industry.

Simply 3D print a gas turbine :rolleyes:
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Actually that is how Caterpillar has started making the fuel injectors for their gas turbines. Selective laser sintering for the win.

Of course that is only one part on them.
 
Caterpillar have their track shoes made near where I live at the Skinningrove Steel Works.
Many decades ago they worked out a way to use rolled steel section to manufacture machined tracks rather than use castings. They don't last as long but are far cheaper.
Try 3D printing one!
 
I'm only familiar with hobbyist 3D printers which are very slow. Can industrial ones churn out the thousands of components an hour our manufacturers require ?
 
The Don said:
I'm only familiar with hobbyist 3D printers which are very slow. Can industrial ones churn out the thousands of components an hour our manufacturers require ?
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No but you only need thousands of components an hour when you are selling 100s of units an hour. Post Brexit tariffs will prevent Europeans buying our stuff and poverty will prevent UK citizens buying our stuff. A couple of £1000 printers should keep up with demand.
 
The Don said:
I'm only familiar with hobbyist 3D printers which are very slow. Can industrial ones churn out the thousands of components an hour our manufacturers require ?
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You also can't 3D print complex* integrated circuits, so you cannot make things with much intelligence.

I do wonder if it explains the Cabinet.


*Some simple organic circuits have been demonstrated with inkjet type approaches.
 
The 3D printer thing is like the whole border thing. Relying on technology whose effectiveness is overestimated and/or whose existence is largely imaginary.

Whether they genuinely believe what they're saying or just hoping people will simply believe them isn't clear to me.
 
In response to the EU's release of their Brexit negotiating approach, the UK will be releasing ours and deploying our vast range of negotiating expertise:

The UK's team will be lead by Mr Johnson's Europe adviser David Frost. The chief negotiator of the Brexit withdrawal agreement, Michel Barnier, will head up the EU's delegation.

Both Mr Frost and the prime minister have said in recent weeks they want to seek a Canada-style agreement with zero tariffs from the EU.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51650961

IMO the UK's after a no-deal Australian style deal we can can blame, and blame the consequences, on the EU :mad:
 
The Don said:
The 3D printer thing is like the whole border thing. Relying on technology whose effectiveness is overestimated and/or whose existence is largely imaginary.

Whether they genuinely believe what they're saying or just hoping people will simply believe them isn't clear to me.
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Unlike border "invisible" checks, printing at least exists and is used with both plastic and metals and has some chance of developing into high volume manufacturing. (Currently it is used for low volume stuff where standard factory option would be too expensive)
 
Lothian said:
As mentioned previously.it is too simplistic to label Ceptimus as just pro brexit. He is very anti unelected bureaucrats. He will be livid about the current Government's approach to sideline ministers and pass the power to Boris's henchman who has puppeteer's hand up the chancellor's arse deciding which industry deserves Government support.
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How likely am I to get moderated if I nominate for pith?
 
Klimax said:
Unlike border "invisible" checks, printing at least exists and is used with both plastic and metals and has some chance of developing into high volume manufacturing. (Currently it is used for low volume stuff where standard factory option would be too expensive)
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I'd say that conflating the niche use of printing with bulk manufacture and conflating the use of "invisible" checks in low emission zones with border controls is actually a pretty comparable show of ignorance.
 
The UK will walk away from trade talks in June unless we get a pony and a piano :rolleyes:

The UK has warned the EU it will walk away from trade talks in June unless there is a "broad outline" of a deal.

Michael Gove told MPs the UK wanted to strike a "comprehensive free trade agreement" in nine months.

But the government would not accept any alignment with EU laws as the EU is demanding, with Mr Gove adding: "We will not trade away our sovereignty."
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Oh **** ! :(

The EU isn't going to cede that much ground so it looks like a no-deal Australia-style deal with no time to put the necessary border infrastructure in place and no way for UK companies to have time to sort out their supply chains.

Very worrying times indeed.

"No possible downside, only a considerable upside", my well upholstered backside :mad:
 
The Don said:
The UK will walk away from trade talks in June unless we get a pony and a piano :rolleyes:



Oh **** ! :(

The EU isn't going to cede that much ground so it looks like a no-deal Australia-style deal with no time to put the necessary border infrastructure in place and no way for UK companies to have time to sort out their supply chains.

Very worrying times indeed.

"No possible downside, only a considerable upside", my well upholstered backside :mad:
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So is Gove saying that they are too incompetent to negotiate the "easiest deal in history"?
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Caterpillar have their track shoes made near where I live at the Skinningrove Steel Works.
Many decades ago they worked out a way to use rolled steel section to manufacture machined tracks rather than use castings. They don't last as long but are far cheaper.
Try 3D printing one!
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Best way there would be using the 3d printing on to make castings. They used that when they needed to make a change as a part was poorly designed and so for replacements could be cast with 3d printing the sand molds while actual patterns where being made up.

It is interesting and has a lot of potential but it is far from some magic manufacturing bullet, though additive manufacturing will show up in more and more places.
 
The Don said:
I'm only familiar with hobbyist 3D printers which are very slow. Can industrial ones churn out the thousands of components an hour our manufacturers require ?
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Not at all. It is the realm of high complexity parts for volume production or small short runs to cut on tooling costs.
 
Klimax said:
Unlike border "invisible" checks, printing at least exists and is used with both plastic and metals and has some chance of developing into high volume manufacturing. (Currently it is used for low volume stuff where standard factory option would be too expensive)
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I would say relatively unlikely, molding and stamping are just so efficient that I don't see 3d printing competing. But it offers useful new options and capibilities.
 
Boris has now announced that he’s going to put a stop to rough sleeping. He’ll be rounding them all up and sending them off to pick fruit and veg.
 
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