Will Trump See Covid-19 as an Opportunity?

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The issue is that Trump is entirely transactional, and he no longer has any adults around him that might stop him from doing something that, at first glance, looks like it would give him a short-term advantage.
We can see right now how he tries to manipulate the Stock Market by lying about the scope of the Pandemic.
It's not that Trump would plan to use the virus scare to delay elections, but neither is there reason to believe he wouldn't do so if given the opportunity and motivation; Trump hasn't shown any restraint of his own so far.
 
eeyore1954 said:
He may not quietly accept a close loss but I don't think he would do anything other than legal channels to contest it.
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Legal channels, while he's currently saying that two Supreme Court Justices should recuse themselves from any cases involving him because they aren't his subservient toadies.
 
Meadmaker said:
Even with a Coronavirus pandemic going on, there will still be elections, and Donald Trump will still respect the results of those elections.
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I agree Trump will get out of office, but Trump doesn't respect elections. He didn't even respect the election that put him in office. Millions of illegal votes was his claim.


ETA: Ninja'd I'm not surprised to see.
 
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Meadmaker said:
Fair enough.

I think that is far fetched, but not nuts.
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Which part do you find far-fetched? The part where Trump has expressed the desire and will to do it? Or just the part where he would actually try it?
 
Meadmaker said:
Just the part about actually trying it.
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The problem is, everything about his presidency is far-fetched. You simply can't make a prediction about what he might do, or what might happen, based on previous presidencies. We're in uncharted waters, here.
 
Meadmaker said:
I shiver to think what he might do during his lame duck period...
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Well, we can probably start with

1. Nominate as many unqualified partisan sycophants to the Federal benches as he can and have Moscow Mitch jam them through Senate confirmation just as fast as possible.

2. Pardons galore for all the criminals who were loyal to him - Manafort, Flynn, Stone.

3. Withdraw from NATO

Meadmaker said:
...but come January 20, 2025, there will be a President of the United States, and he won't be named Donald Trump. Hopefully, January 20, 2021, but that's not as easy to foretell.
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There might be one named Donald Trump Jr though. I have no doubt that Dump will try to create a presidential dynasty by grooming Junior to become his successor. Of course, he would have to win the Republican nomination first, but I am sure Dump's base would support Junior 100%.
 
Meadmaker said:
Just the part about actually trying it.
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Okay, even though we've down-graded from "mental illness" to "far-fetched", I am curious to know why you think it is far-fetched.

Trump has expressed a desire and willingness to stay in office beyond the legal term limit (I acknowledge that these are supposed to be "jokes", but that he said it cannot be denied). Trump has also exhibited a flagrant disregard for norms, protocols, and even the law.

So where is the far-fetched part?
 
Horatius said:
The problem is, everything about his presidency is far-fetched. You simply can't make a prediction about what he might do, or what might happen, based on previous presidencies. We're in uncharted waters, here.
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When stupid, crazy, and evil intersect, anything is possible!

That's a great tagline for a movie.
 
johnny karate said:
So where is the far-fetched part?
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The part where Trump goes full retard.

Do you think he could succeed in what would amount to a coup? No, he couldn't. Do you think he doesn't know he couldn't succeed? Of course he knows. Do you think he doesn't know that he would pay a price for trying and failing? Again, of course he knows. So even with the worst reading of Trump's motives, why would he do something so obviously self-destructive?
 
johnny karate said:
Okay, even though we've down-graded from "mental illness" to "far-fetched", I am curious to know why you think it is far-fetched.

Trump has expressed a desire and willingness to stay in office beyond the legal term limit (I acknowledge that these are supposed to be "jokes", but that he said it cannot be denied). Trump has also exhibited a flagrant disregard for norms, protocols, and even the law.

So where is the far-fetched part?
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Here you go:
smartcooky said:
There might be one named Donald Trump Jr though. I have no doubt that Dump will try to create a presidential dynasty by grooming Junior to become his successor. Of course, he would have to win the Republican nomination first, but I am sure Dump's base would support Junior 100%.
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Ziggurat said:
The part where Trump goes full retard.

Do you think he could succeed in what would amount to a coup? No, he couldn't. Do you think he doesn't know he couldn't succeed? Of course he knows. Do you think he doesn't know that he would pay a price for trying and failing? Again, of course he knows. So even with the worst reading of Trump's motives, why would he do something so obviously self-destructive?
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Zig correctly stated my response to several related queries.
 
plague311 said:
What are you basing this on? He's said that he wants to stay in the White House and he's floated the idea to get a reaction more than once. It's not like this is some "out of left field" type of idea. Calling someone mentally ill should require them to at least contradict the words spoken by the target of their ire.



His concept is no more crazy than claiming someone is mentally ill without any ******* evidence to support the claim at all.



Even if it's a hypothetical, again, it's not far off the mark. Trump has floated the idea more than once (with regards to staying in office). You guys just calling someone mentally ill isn't really refuting a ******* thing. It's the actual definition of an ad hom attack. You didn't contest anything about his argument. You said he was deranged and nothing else. That's the antithesis of skepticism.
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Next we will see Meadmaker posting about how no man in this nation ever meant anything serious when mentioning how funny it would be to have a threesome.
 
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