Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 19

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TragicMonkey said:
If we're lucky and God love us he will one day be retelling a story about a magnificent, massive amount of monkeys descending upon him in unparalleled wrath as a maelstrom of chaos and chittering, and absconding with his toupee. I know nothing of these particular monkeys but I sincerely hope they are the variety that demonstrates dominance by biting their enemies upon the buttocks. It would be the biggest, most amazing bunch of monkeys doing the most massive, incredible bites to the biggest, largest, most hugest buttocks ever!
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Those monkeys are all Democrat partisan hacks!
 
dudalb said:
After last night's debacle of a debate, I think 4 more years of Trump is inevitable, sadly.
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I disagree.

But then, I also think that feelings of doom and despair shouldn't be allowed control or power while there's still a very real fighting chance - in large part because allowing them power means that that very real fighting chance is much more likely to vanish. If you are, in fact, right, there will be plenty of time to despair after the loss and the despair just won't make anything better before then.
 
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Craig4 said:
I just don't understand why Trump supporters think they are real Americans.
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They are consumed with an irrational desire for something that is actively harmful to them solely because they think it will spite their imagined foes; what could possibly be more American than that? The same thing slathered in cheese, I suppose.
 
Craig4 said:
Russia is looking to help Trump win in 2020, election security official told lawmakers

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/20/politics/trump-russia-intelligence-2020/index.html

I just don't understand why Trump supporters think they are real Americans.
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From that link:
"What the (intelligence community) sees as reporting the truth -- simple statement of facts in evidence without judgment -- the President sees as undermining his legitimacy," the former official told CNN.

On Wednesday, Trump announced he was naming Richard Grenell, a staunch loyalist and current US ambassador to Germany, as acting DNI despite him not having experience in intelligence. A source familiar with internal discussions said White House officials saw Grenell as a good stopgap solution for the acting DNI vacancy as time was running out on Maguire's time in the position and because of Trump's dissatisfaction with Maguire due to the intelligence briefing.
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Hopefully the states will defend our election process but I'm only minimally hopeful of that.
 
Ziggurat said:
There's a point to that, though, and it's not an argument ad populum. If lots of people from across the political spectrum thought the sentence was excessive, then even if they're wrong, Trump believing the sentence was excessive doesn't put him on the fringe.
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That's a big "If".

By the way, I did some searching regarding the pardon power of the President and came across this. It's quite interesting and states without equivocation that Trump's pardons are impeachable offenses. Give it a read.
 
SezMe said:
That's a big "If".
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Not really. I've already given some examples.

By the way, I did some searching regarding the pardon power of the President and came across this. It's quite interesting and states without equivocation that Trump's pardons are impeachable offenses. Give it a read.
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I read it, and your characterization of it is not really accurate. The house can impeach a president for pardons it disagrees with, but there's nothing specific about Trump's pardons which make it any more impeachable than any other president's. The House can impeach a president for any reason it sees fit.

I suspect you will find even this House unwilling to impeach Trump over any of the pardons or commutations he has done.
 
SezMe said:
That's a big "If".

By the way, I did some searching regarding the pardon power of the President and came across this. It's quite interesting and states without equivocation that Trump's pardons are impeachable offenses. Give it a read.
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Interesting.

“There is one security in this case to which gentlemen may not have adverted: if the President be connected, in any suspicious manner, with any person, and there be grounds to believe he will shelter him, the House of Representatives can impeach him; they can remove him if found guilty.”
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I don't think there is any question that Trump is intent on protecting Stone if his conviction stands. Stone is asking for a new trial which I doubt will be granted, but if it is, Trump is already declaring he'll be exonerated. I think Trump will wait until the decision regarding the trial is made as Stone won't go to jail until then. Trump will wait until Stone has exhausted every avenue and is on his way to jail. But would the GOP convict Trump even then? Nah.
 
Craig4 said:
Russia is looking to help Trump win in 2020, election security official told lawmakers

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/20/politics/trump-russia-intelligence-2020/index.html

I just don't understand why Trump supporters think they are real Americans.
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From your link:
The briefers said Russia does favor Trump, but that helping Trump wasn't the only thing they were trying to do as it was also designed to raise questions about the integrity of the elections process, the source added.
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The intelligence community said this was part of Russia's plan in the 2016 election. Why not try it again? Democrats were more than willing to do it then, and still haven't stopped, and are more than eager to continue on for another five years.

I just don't understand why Democrats think they are real Americans.
 
“How bad were the Academy Awards this year?” Trump asked a rally in Colorado Springs, Colorado. The crowd responded with loud boos.

“The winner is a movie from South Korea, what the hell was that all about?” Trump asked. “We got enough problems with South Korea with trade and on top of it, they give them the best movie of the year.”
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Trump jabs at Parasite's Oscar win because film is 'from South Korea'

https://www.theguardian.com/film/20...-korea?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard
 
Bogative said:
From your link:


The intelligence community said this was part of Russia's plan in the 2016 election. Why not try it again? Democrats were more than willing to do it then, and still haven't stopped, and are more than eager to continue on for another five years.

I just don't understand why Democrats think they are real Americans.
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I'm not sure what your point is.
Are you arguing that Democrats have a duty to pretend that the elections are safe when they are not?
 
a_unique_person said:
Trump jabs at Parasite's Oscar win because film is 'from South Korea'

https://www.theguardian.com/film/20...-korea?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard
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What an ass. This kind of thing is just normal now.

Also, what he said afterward:

“Was it good? I don’t know. I’m looking for, like – can we get like Gone With The Wind back, please?” Trump said, to loud cheers.
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So he complained about a movie he hasn't seen simply on the basis that it is foreign made, and then whines that they aren't making movies like Gone With The Wind anymore? :rolleyes:
 
Puppycow said:
So he complained about a movie he hasn't seen simply on the basis that it is foreign made, and then whines that they aren't making movies like Gone With The Wind anymore? :rolleyes:
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GWTW's running time is an interminable 3hrs 58 minutes, far outstripping Trump's attention span. He's never watched the thing in one sitting, or more likely, not at all. Sort of like the bible. He's as full of it as a human can be, yet still an empty vessel.
 
The Republicans should have gotten rid if him when they could have but they don't have an alternative candidate for 2020 POTUS.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
The Republicans should have gotten rid if him when they could have but they don't have an alternative candidate for 2020 POTUS.
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Why ?

President Trump seems to be doing a great job for them. His base are fully on board and aren't guaranteed to turn out to vote for a different GOP candidate whilst he's doing enough to keep the GOP faithful and evangelicals on board.

Any other GOP candidate would risk weakening the support of those groups. Indeed President Trump perfectly encapsulates the current day GOP.
 
The Don said:
Why ?

President Trump seems to be doing a great job for them. His base are fully on board and aren't guaranteed to turn out to vote for a different GOP candidate whilst he's doing enough to keep the GOP faithful and evangelicals on board.

Any other GOP candidate would risk weakening the support of those groups. Indeed President Trump perfectly encapsulates the current day GOP.
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I would agree with that.
 
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