2020 Democratic Candidates Tracker Part III

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Still early but after last night's debate I would say it is Trump's election to lose because things look good for him. He could be up to the task though. He is always one bad tweet away.
 
angrysoba said:
I live in Japan. It ain't odd in the slightest in Japan.

But anyway, it was clearly just a poor joke. A bit stale? Sure, but I will bet that really nobody cares.
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If it's stale, why not throw it away? Clean up after yourself, man.

And for some reason I hadn't noticed I was responding to you specifically. If I had, I would've remembered. Japan is awesome... except for a few things like the one you described.
 
Been impressed by Elizabeth Warren for some time now. Her 2009 Jon Stewart interview on Comedy Central is worth a watch.

Anyway, Karen and I thought her debate performance last night was impressive. We’d love to see her use Donald Trump as a punching bag in the way she went after Bloomberg last night. It was noteworthy how she defended Klobuchar over the Mexican President snafu rather than just piling on.

Anyway, donated to her campaign just now. First time ever for us donating to any candidate.

Fingers crossed - hope our enthusiasm for her is not the kiss of death!
 
Fast Eddie B said:
Anyway, Karen and I thought her debate performance last night was impressive. We’d love to see her use Donald Trump as a punching bag in the way she went after Bloomberg last night. It was noteworthy how she defended Klobuchar over the Mexican President snafu rather than just piling on.
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Warren definitely was good on stage. It was also nice of her to help out Klobuchar, but in a way it somewhat undermined Klobuchar as someone who needed rescuing as she and Buttigieg bickered with each other.

I think Klobuchar will probably be out soon. She looked like she is trying to play the role of the "nice" candidate and is always grinning away, but then when she gets rattled she looks lightweight and her retaliations sound petty, "Are you calling me dumb?" "You tried to win an election and you loOoOost!" etc...
 
Fast Eddie B said:
Been impressed by Elizabeth Warren for some time now. Her 2009 Jon Stewart interview on Comedy Central is worth a watch.

Anyway, Karen and I thought her debate performance last night was impressive. We’d love to see her use Donald Trump as a punching bag in the way she went after Bloomberg last night. It was noteworthy how she defended Klobuchar over the Mexican President snafu rather than just piling on.

Anyway, donated to her campaign just now. First time ever for us donating to any candidate.

Fingers crossed - hope our enthusiasm for her is not the kiss of death!
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I like Warren, I am surprised she has not polled higher than she does.

One of my criteria for liking a candidate is to think of how that candidate would be as my boss (and I am a federal employee, so whoever wins the Presidency is my boss, x-times removed). How effective might that candidate be at administering a great big organization, a huge bureaucracy? It is not just about what goals the person has, or what policies they support (although those things DO matter, or course), but the person's ability to implement those goals and policies with some degree of skill and efficiency across the government.

For Warren, I get a good impression that way, based mostly on her education and demeanor.
 
I was recently introduced to a term I hadn't heard used this way before: calling someone in a relationship a Beard.
 
Delphic Oracle said:
Bloomberg is decidedly not Prime Time™ at all.
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That was the worst TV debut since CopRock.

Buttigieg has to own the entire middle since its so crowded, so he's hippy punching like crazy.
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He jumped in and interjected himself into the conversation to say absolutely nothing.

Klobuchar has moments and flubs.
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She had her chance, but she got off to a terrible start with that question about her Mexico foul up and stayed too long bickering with Buttigieg.

Biden was tripping up a lot early on, but now he rises to shouty drunk uncle mode pretty quickly.
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I think he did OK, actually. no major flubs and asserted himself . But, he got almost no time. That may have been why he looked better.

Warren got the finishing move on Bloomberg for sure. She's consistent but not so noteworthy.
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I love when she is assertive. Mike Bloomberg was the single best thing to happen to her campaign. She makes billionaires cry for sport. The irony is, he got into the race specifically because she was leading in the fall.

Sanders is full on unrepentantly Sanders
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Bernie gives healthcare, not %^&*s
 
Also of note: Warren and Biden have their CNN Town Halls tonight. That gives Warren a solid hour of uninterrupted air time right before the caucus wraps up. She is getting the last word in for any undecided voters. I originally thought that scheduling was the prelude to her end. She may have turned it into a hug advantage.
 
Donal said:
Also of note: Warren and Biden have their CNN Town Halls tonight. That gives Warren a solid hour of uninterrupted air time right before the caucus wraps up. She is getting the last word in for any undecided voters. I originally thought that scheduling was the prelude to her end. She may have turned it into a hug advantage.
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Well, I'm not much of a hugger but I'd definitely rather hug Warren than Biden.
 
Brainster said:
Did anybody try to engage you?
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No, unfortunately not. It was a bad time for that since all eyes were glued to the debate screen, but that made it enjoyable in a different way.

I did engage a Bernie volunteer this morning at a cafe I go to near the Bernie HQ. A guy was sitting next to me with a Bernie baseball cap and a Bernie button so I asked if he was one fo the volunteers at the HQ. He said he was and asked if I was a Sanders supporter. I replied "not really" but then mentioned two things I like about Bernie. He seemed like a nice enough guy, but we didn't really engage on any of the 'issues'.

I'm hoping to make it into the HQ today. It should be quieter without the debate happening.
 
crescent said:
I like Warren, I am surprised she has not polled higher than she does.
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Angry Warren is awesome. If she had this same suicide mission energy in everything and quit punching left she'd be winning. The civility and consensus building was never her lane. She needs to seek and destroy Biden and Pete with that same ruthlessness she did Bloomberg and once they are smoking craters the center is hers by default.

She can pretend Bernie doesn't exist. She's already more the consensus candidate than he is and doesn't need to waste time arguing that point. All attacking him did was alienate a lot of their shared base.
 
I’d vote for Warren if she was the nominee. Of the two commie socialists in the running, she’s the milder one and I like her. Finally, a woman to properly use the vacuum and bench cleaner (whatever that is) to clean up the mess in the White House!

Bloomberg? Eh. We already have a billionaire with questionable ethics. I’d probably vote third party again. I don’t want a nationwide stop and frisk policy nor do I want soda taxes and other nanny state laws.

I’d vote for Buttigieg, probably.

Can’t vote for Sanders but three people in my household would. Dumb commie kids!

Biden, eh, boring. But not Trump, so there’s that.

I don’t know enough about the rest. But again, they aren’t Trump.

I hope the Dems come up with someone that appeals to enough people.
 
sir drinks-a-lot said:
No, unfortunately not. It was a bad time for that since all eyes were glued to the debate screen, but that made it enjoyable in a different way.

I did engage a Bernie volunteer this morning at a cafe I go to near the Bernie HQ. A guy was sitting next to me with a Bernie baseball cap and a Bernie button so I asked if he was one fo the volunteers at the HQ. He said he was and asked if I was a Sanders supporter. I replied "not really" but then mentioned two things I like about Bernie. He seemed like a nice enough guy, but we didn't really engage on any of the 'issues'.

I'm hoping to make it into the HQ today. It should be quieter without the debate happening.
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I was curious because of something Nate Silver wrote the other day. He went to a Sanders rally in Nevada and said that the impression he got was that Sanders was pushing turnout rather than trying to convince anybody in the crowd that was on the fence.
 
The bettors have made it clear that they fell Bernie won last night and Bloomberg lost bigtime. Sanders jumped 10 points to 50%, while Bloomberg lost 10 points to drop back to 25.6.
 
Brainster said:
I was curious because of something Nate Silver wrote the other day. He went to a Sanders rally in Nevada and said that the impression he got was that Sanders was pushing turnout rather than trying to convince anybody in the crowd that was on the fence.
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Actually, now that you mention it, someone did engage me. Right when I walked in, a guy asked if I was registered to vote. I replied "yes" and kept walking.

I'm planning on returning on my way to a piano lesson later today. It will be interesting.
 
Whole debate was a disgrace. And the mods seem to egg the candidates on.
Bloomburg did poorly. Only good blow he landed was the "Amerca is not about to throw out capitalism " remark in response to Sanders "there should not be Billioniares" comment, which Bernie will have to somehow walk back if he wants to win in November.
Biden was non existent.
I have to agree that Trump won this debate.
 
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